Sound blaster for 1993 IBM PS/1 ?

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Sound blaster for 1993 IBM PS/1 ?

Postby Intel486dx33 » 2019-6-11 @ 20:21

I am looking for an period correct Sound blaster for a 1993 IBM PS/1 computer
With 486sx33 CPU and 16mb ram. 128kb cache.
ISA slot.
IDE CDROM interface needed on card.

Currently, I am using an CT-2950 but I think its a 1995 card.
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Re: Sound blaster for 1993 IBM PS/1 ?

Postby weldum » 2019-6-11 @ 22:07

maybe a sound blaster 2.0 or a sound blaster pro?
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Re: Sound blaster for 1993 IBM PS/1 ?

Postby keropi » 2019-6-11 @ 23:57

CT1600 aka SBPro2 gets my vote
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Re: Sound blaster for 1993 IBM PS/1 ?

Postby SirNickity » 2019-6-12 @ 22:09

No IDE CD-ROM interface on an SBP, just MKE. The CR-562/563 would be a good candidate for a period-correct drive though.
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Re: Sound blaster for 1993 IBM PS/1 ?

Postby weldum » 2019-6-12 @ 22:16

but why don't using the cd drive as slave on the motherboard ide? dos, windows and everything will recognize it
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Re: Sound blaster for 1993 IBM PS/1 ?

Postby Jo22 » 2019-6-13 @ 01:59

Seriously, though, was period-correctness real in those days ?
- How many of us in these days were early adopters ?

Personally, in the mid-90s, I got a PAS16-based CD-ROM kit from ~1992 for a 286 PC from 1988.
And it worked fine. It also had got an HP Laser Jet from ~82 or so.

I see nothing wrong in retrofitting a PC with slightly newer hardware. Or vice versa.
It doesn't have to be period-correct all the time. Era-correctness is good enough for me. ;)

Of course, there's nothing wrong either in aiming to re-create something that was period-correct on paper.

Edit: The Sound Blaster 16 CT17xx was from ~92/~93, so it was technically available when this PS/1 got released.
However, how many people in ~93 would have had bought such an high-end card for a low-end PS/1 ?
I suppose at the time users rather installed the PS/1 audio adapter, an AdLib or a no-name Sound Blaster clone.
Edit: Except if it was part of a CD-ROM kit they needed, of course. In the 90s, CD drives were a must-have even on low-end systems.
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Re: Sound blaster for 1993 IBM PS/1 ?

Postby NJRoadfan » 2019-6-13 @ 17:33

Jo22 wrote:either in aiming to re-create something that was period-correct on paper.
Edit: The Sound Blaster 16 CT17xx was from ~92/~93, so it was technically available when this PS/1 got released.
However, how many people in ~93 would have had bought such an high-end card for a low-end PS/1 ?


How about IBM themselves? They shipped several PS/1 2155 "Multimedia" configurations with SoundBlaster 16 cards with MKE/Panasonic CD-ROM drives connected to them in 1993!

http://ps-2.kev009.com/pcpartnerinfo/ctstips/d9b2.htm

A friend of mine owned one of these systems, so I can confirm the factory SoundBlaster configuration. Even "low end" systems came with genuine SoundBlaster cards at the time. IBM was still considered a high end marque for PCs, so they didn't cheap out on the sound card like the competition.
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Re: Sound blaster for 1993 IBM PS/1 ?

Postby SirNickity » 2019-6-13 @ 17:34

I'm with you on era-correct. If you think back to that time and remember computers your friends and family had, or that you saw in use at a business somewhere, they were all over the map.

However, when someone asks for something period-correct, I try to think about what might have been sold as an OEM solution at the time. Not everyone would be loosening screws on their computer cases, even back then when upgrades were more common. I feel bad sometimes when I'm in and out of my Dell and AST PCs. Those things got to me having been opened maybe two or three times ever, and I've definitely put some miles on the case under the screwheads... heheh
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Re: Sound blaster for 1993 IBM PS/1 ?

Postby Intel486dx33 » 2019-6-14 @ 11:30

NJRoadfan wrote:
Jo22 wrote:either in aiming to re-create something that was period-correct on paper.
Edit: The Sound Blaster 16 CT17xx was from ~92/~93, so it was technically available when this PS/1 got released.
However, how many people in ~93 would have had bought such an high-end card for a low-end PS/1 ?


How about IBM themselves? They shipped several PS/1 2155 "Multimedia" configurations with SoundBlaster 16 cards with MKE/Panasonic CD-ROM drives connected to them in 1993!

http://ps-2.kev009.com/pcpartnerinfo/ctstips/d9b2.htm

A friend of mine owned one of these systems, so I can confirm the factory SoundBlaster configuration. Even "low end" systems came with genuine SoundBlaster cards at the time. IBM was still considered a high end marque for PCs, so they didn't cheap out on the sound card like the competition.


Yeah, but that webpage does not list the Sound blaster model number.
That’s what I am trying to find out.
I have some Sound Blaster Pro 2.0 cards but I don’t want to use them in these PS/1’s
So I think I will just keep the CT-2950’s because they have the IDE interface for CDROM drive.
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Re: Sound blaster for 1993 IBM PS/1 ?

Postby NJRoadfan » 2019-6-14 @ 12:16

It was likely a CT-1740. It had the empty ASP socket, Panasonic CD-ROM interface, volume dial, and onboard amp.
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Re: Sound blaster for 1993 IBM PS/1 ?

Postby root42 » 2019-6-14 @ 12:50

Why not a Snark Barker? :) But with a 486SX-33 an SB Pro, early SB16 or maybe PAS or Jazz16 based card would be more appropriate.
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Re: Sound blaster for 1993 IBM PS/1 ?

Postby oeuvre » 2019-6-14 @ 17:13

As long as you don't toss an MWave in there... *shudder*
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Re: Sound blaster for 1993 IBM PS/1 ?

Postby Intel486dx33 » 2019-6-14 @ 17:13

Yeah, those old sound blaster cards are rare and expensive so I think I will just stick with the CT2950’s I have now as they where fairly inexpensive and work fine and have IDE interface I need.
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