Can't use IDE port on BTC 1857i card \ VOGONS

Can't use IDE port on BTC 1857i card

Topic actions

Post a reply

First post, by SimonV

Posted on 2019-09-18, 14:40

SimonV Offline

Rank Newbie

Rank: Newbie
Posts: 49
Joined: 2018-03-24, 13:09

I want to use a cdrom drive on my BTC 1857i. If I use the setup program suggested in the youtube vid by Phil's computer lab about the ESS1869f audiodrive card the program gives as only option when it arrives at the cdrom setting "1: turn off IDE ( or similar )" message.

Since the card has the IDE port on it that seems rather weird. Other cards in my 386 ( with a 486 upgrade chip ) are a TEKRAM DC600 / LONGSHINE LCS-6641 IDE CACHE CONTROLLER and an ORCHID FAHRENHEIT 180.

I suspect the jumper on the board giving the chance to choose between IRQ 12 or 15 is related to the IDE port ? Any suggestion, I am really not at home in configuring old dosmachines. Actually it's Commodore A2386 bridge board sitting in my Commodore A3000T . It has it's quirks but I don't know if the problem is related to that.

Is it maybe because something else uses those IRQ ? Unfortunately I can't use the DC600 for a cdrom.

Sorry for the pictures being wrongly orientated ... need to figure out why they do that.

Attachments

Filename

2019-09-16 19.24.44.jpg

File size

137.09 KiB

Views

901 views

File license

Fair use/fair dealing exception
Filename

2019-09-16 19.27.18.jpg

File size

139.04 KiB

Views

901 views

File license

Fair use/fair dealing exception
Filename

2019-09-18 10.58.28.jpg

File size

71.43 KiB

Views

901 views

File license

Fair use/fair dealing exception

Reply 1 of 13, by Grzyb

Posted on 2019-09-18, 15:48

Grzyb Offline

Rank Oldbie

Rank: Oldbie
Posts: 1620
Joined: 2019-05-08, 13:47
Location: Laniakea Supercluster

What happens when you run ES1868.COM ("ESS IDE CD-ROM controller ( ES1869 ) enable program V4.6") with the appropriate parameters?

Also, there's that EEPR1869.EXE utility, with all those EEPROM codes, have you tried it?

11869i12.bin     ES1869 ROM CODE WITH IDE use IRQ 12 (basic configure 0000)
21869i15.bin     ES1869 ROM CODE WITH IDE use IRQ 15
31869i10.bin     ES1869 ROM CODE WITH IDE use IRQ 10
41869nide.bin    ES1869 ROM CODE WITHOUT IDE

Żywotwór planetarny, jego gnijące błoto, jest świtem egzystencji, fazą wstępną, i wyłoni się z krwawych ciastomózgowych miedź miłująca...

Reply 2 of 13, by SimonV

Posted on 2019-09-18, 17:51

SimonV Offline

Rank Newbie

Rank: Newbie
Posts: 49
Joined: 2018-03-24, 13:09

Grzyb wrote:
What happens when you run ES1868.COM ("ESS IDE CD-ROM controller ( ES1869 ) enable program V4.6") with the appropriate parameter […]
Show full quote
What happens when you run ES1868.COM ("ESS IDE CD-ROM controller ( ES1869 ) enable program V4.6") with the appropriate parameters?

Also, there's that EEPR1869.EXE utility, with all those EEPROM codes, have you tried it?
11869i12.bin     ES1869 ROM CODE WITH IDE use IRQ 12 (basic configure 0000)
21869i15.bin     ES1869 ROM CODE WITH IDE use IRQ 15
31869i10.bin     ES1869 ROM CODE WITH IDE use IRQ 10
41869nide.bin    ES1869 ROM CODE WITHOUT IDE

You mean did I enable it in the config.sys ( or is autoexec ? ) . Well I manually enabled it but that didn't really help.

I will search for that utility.

Reply 3 of 13, by Grzyb

Posted on 2019-09-18, 18:01

Grzyb Offline

Rank Oldbie

Rank: Oldbie
Posts: 1620
Joined: 2019-05-08, 13:47
Location: Laniakea Supercluster

SimonV wrote:
You mean did I enable it in the config.sys ( or is autoexec ? ) . Well I manually enabled it but that didn't really help.

See that Phil's computer lab video - it's important that it's loaded in CONFIG.SYS, and before the CD-ROM .SYS driver.
Anyway, it should display some message - either a confirmation that the interface got enabled, or some error.

Żywotwór planetarny, jego gnijące błoto, jest świtem egzystencji, fazą wstępną, i wyłoni się z krwawych ciastomózgowych miedź miłująca...

Reply 4 of 13, by SimonV

Posted on 2019-09-18, 18:07

SimonV Offline

Rank Newbie

Rank: Newbie
Posts: 49
Joined: 2018-03-24, 13:09

Now any hints where I can find it, I am overlooking it I think ?

But you also mention ES1869 enable program v4.6 while I have an ES1868 with enable program v4.3

Reply 5 of 13, by Grzyb

Posted on 2019-09-18, 18:25

Grzyb Offline

Rank Oldbie

Rank: Oldbie
Posts: 1620
Joined: 2019-05-08, 13:47
Location: Laniakea Supercluster

See the attachment, disk1.

Attachments

Filename

es1869.rar

File size

1.94 MiB

Downloads

62 downloads

File license

Fair use/fair dealing exception

Żywotwór planetarny, jego gnijące błoto, jest świtem egzystencji, fazą wstępną, i wyłoni się z krwawych ciastomózgowych miedź miłująca...

Reply 6 of 13, by SimonV

Posted on 2019-09-18, 18:27

SimonV Offline

Rank Newbie

Rank: Newbie
Posts: 49
Joined: 2018-03-24, 13:09

About postings during boot:

There's first the post about the 1868 enable program and after that I tried with the Oaksys driver / device name MSCD001 but that says No drives found, aborting installation.

Reply 7 of 13, by SimonV

Posted on 2019-09-18, 18:32

SimonV Offline

Rank Newbie

Rank: Newbie
Posts: 49
Joined: 2018-03-24, 13:09

WOOHOO ! many thanks, I flashed the card for IRQ15 and it's working.

Reply 8 of 13, by SimonV

Posted on 2019-09-18, 18:36

SimonV Offline

Rank Newbie

Rank: Newbie
Posts: 49
Joined: 2018-03-24, 13:09

"woohoo" too fast ... "invalid drive specification" . Somehow I need to figure out why it says that after trying to do D: or E:

Reply 9 of 13, by Grzyb

Posted on 2019-09-18, 18:41

Grzyb Offline

Rank Oldbie

Rank: Oldbie
Posts: 1620
Joined: 2019-05-08, 13:47
Location: Laniakea Supercluster

You mean the .SYS driver loads, but not MSCDEX.EXE ?
Perhaps wrong device name, you need something like "MSCDEX /D:DEVICENAME"

Żywotwór planetarny, jego gnijące błoto, jest świtem egzystencji, fazą wstępną, i wyłoni się z krwawych ciastomózgowych miedź miłująca...

Reply 10 of 13, by SimonV

Posted on 2019-09-18, 18:49

SimonV Offline

Rank Newbie

Rank: Newbie
Posts: 49
Joined: 2018-03-24, 13:09

I am stuck here:

Attachments

Filename

2019-09-18 20.46.53.jpg

File size

118.62 KiB

Views

832 views

File license

Fair use/fair dealing exception

Reply 11 of 13, by SimonV

Posted on 2019-09-18, 19:07

SimonV Offline

Rank Newbie

Rank: Newbie
Posts: 49
Joined: 2018-03-24, 13:09

Ok all good, it's running now.

thanks again

Reply 12 of 13, by Grzyb

Posted on 2019-09-18, 19:40

Grzyb Offline

Rank Oldbie

Rank: Oldbie
Posts: 1620
Joined: 2019-05-08, 13:47
Location: Laniakea Supercluster

Nice to see you got it to work, but now there's one thing that puzzles me...

ES1868.COM /A:168 /I:A

...it means IRQ 10.
But you have flashed it for IRQ 15.

How can it work?
I guess that EEPROM code only selects the prefered value? For ISAPNP BIOS, or something?

Żywotwór planetarny, jego gnijące błoto, jest świtem egzystencji, fazą wstępną, i wyłoni się z krwawych ciastomózgowych miedź miłująca...

Reply 13 of 13, by SimonV

Posted on 2019-09-20, 18:00

SimonV Offline

Rank Newbie

Rank: Newbie
Posts: 49
Joined: 2018-03-24, 13:09

Grzyb wrote:
Nice to see you got it to work, but now there's one thing that puzzles me... […]
Show full quote
Nice to see you got it to work, but now there's one thing that puzzles me...

ES1868.COM /A:168 /I:A

...it means IRQ 10.
But you have flashed it for IRQ 15.

How can it work?
I guess that EEPROM code only selects the prefered value? For ISAPNP BIOS, or something?

I am not sure either but it does work for sure. I just entered these values because I saw them in Phil's video where he describes it as " this is for the cdrom " not knowing what they actually mean. I guess it gets ignored then ?

Go to top of page Go to top of page

Back to Sound

Main menu

Common searches