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First post, by Scythifuge

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Greetings,

I am attempting to play the CD version of King's Quest VI on a 486DX2/66/16mb with AWE32, and with a Sound Canvas. The intro plays fine. Once I start the game and start interacting in ways which trigger the narrator, the game will either lock up hard with a screech/scratch sound, or it will soft lock up allowing for a ctrl-alt-del. I found out that there used to be a Sierra KQ6 Technical doc which was supposed to cover "a lock up after the first sound is played." I also tried replacing audblast.drv, and also tried using moslo deluxe to slow my machine down by 50%, and neither worked. This is the first 486 build I have ever had which has had this problem with this game.

Reply 2 of 9, by Spikey

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This is I think an IRQ issue, maybe the ThunderBoard driver uses a different IRQ port? I know with the same setup on a Pentium 1 I had to play with drivers for some games. Not sure I ever got QFG4 working outside the Windows version.

Reply 3 of 9, by Scythifuge

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Spikey wrote on 2022-10-28, 15:22:

This is I think an IRQ issue, maybe the ThunderBoard driver uses a different IRQ port? I know with the same setup on a Pentium 1 I had to play with drivers for some games. Not sure I ever got QFG4 working outside the Windows version.

Is there a way to change the IRQ KQ6 uses?

Also, King's Quest V locked up during the beginning when Crispin walks over to the chest to get an item for Graham...

Reply 4 of 9, by Spikey

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Scythifuge wrote on 2022-10-28, 17:12:
Spikey wrote on 2022-10-28, 15:22:

This is I think an IRQ issue, maybe the ThunderBoard driver uses a different IRQ port? I know with the same setup on a Pentium 1 I had to play with drivers for some games. Not sure I ever got QFG4 working outside the Windows version.

Is there a way to change the IRQ KQ6 uses?

Also, King's Quest V locked up during the beginning when Crispin walks over to the chest to get an item for Graham...

KQ5 has several bugs, I'm guessing you're playing the CD version? I would absolutely recommend the floppy version. Of course, you'll want to play it with MT-32.

As for IRQ, it's been a long time since I used old hardware, but you have to set it in DOS, I think? SETBLASTER command in autoexec.bat or something. It affects all games, not just one, so you need to play with it. I think the combo of AWE32 and SC-55 has a conflict, though, because that was the combo I used on retro hardware and always had issues with.

Reply 5 of 9, by Scythifuge

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Spikey wrote on 2022-10-29, 04:22:
Scythifuge wrote on 2022-10-28, 17:12:
Spikey wrote on 2022-10-28, 15:22:

This is I think an IRQ issue, maybe the ThunderBoard driver uses a different IRQ port? I know with the same setup on a Pentium 1 I had to play with drivers for some games. Not sure I ever got QFG4 working outside the Windows version.

Is there a way to change the IRQ KQ6 uses?

Also, King's Quest V locked up during the beginning when Crispin walks over to the chest to get an item for Graham...

KQ5 has several bugs, I'm guessing you're playing the CD version? I would absolutely recommend the floppy version. Of course, you'll want to play it with MT-32.

As for IRQ, it's been a long time since I used old hardware, but you have to set it in DOS, I think? SETBLASTER command in autoexec.bat or something. It affects all games, not just one, so you need to play with it. I think the combo of AWE32 and SC-55 has a conflict, though, because that was the combo I used on retro hardware and always had issues with.

Indeed, I am using the CD version of KQ5! I was trying to enjoy the whole "entering into the age of the MPC" experience with KQ5, but the voices of the characters are really, really bad... It was passable back in the day, due to the novelty of it, but it is a hard sell, now. I say this as someone who champions the old ways!

I could try a mutli config/autoexec situation to test if KQ6 needs IRQ7 over IRQ5. Come to think of it, almost all of my 90's MS-DOS gaming was always based on an IRQ of 7, including the card which came with my Reveal Multimedia Upgrade Kit back in 93 (which came with KQ6, Stellar 7, Chess Master 3000, and the Grolier Encyclopedia.) I went from SB Pro clones to a Live! in 1999. However, when I started building retro PCs, I always went for an AWE32 and other hardware which I didn't get to experience as a kid, and I remember being surprised at the switch to IRQ5.

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Reply 6 of 9, by Spikey

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Yeah, I had an AWE32 as a kid - it was (and is) a great card, but has a few quirks.

Indeed, I am using the CD version of KQ5! I was trying to enjoy the whole "entering into the age of the MPC" experience with KQ5, but the voices of the characters are really, really bad... It was passable back inb tghe day, due to teh novelty of it, but it is a hard sell, now. I say this as someone who champions the old ways!

Yeah, this is my feelings as well. Almost all voices were done-in house, and while undoubtedly amazing in 1990, it is pretty awful today.

I don't see any benefit from KQ5CD over the floppy, in fact, with the floppy you have fewer bugs, better music (MT-32), no horrible voices and even the copy protection which gives a narrative use for the wand!

Reply 7 of 9, by Scythifuge

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Spikey wrote on 2022-11-01, 08:08:
Yeah, I had an AWE32 as a kid - it was (and is) a great card, but has a few quirks. […]
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Yeah, I had an AWE32 as a kid - it was (and is) a great card, but has a few quirks.

Indeed, I am using the CD version of KQ5! I was trying to enjoy the whole "entering into the age of the MPC" experience with KQ5, but the voices of the characters are really, really bad... It was passable back inb tghe day, due to teh novelty of it, but it is a hard sell, now. I say this as someone who champions the old ways!

Yeah, this is my feelings as well. Almost all voices were done-in house, and while undoubtedly amazing in 1990, it is pretty awful today.

I don't see any benefit from KQ5CD over the floppy, in fact, with the floppy you have fewer bugs, better music (MT-32), no horrible voices and even the copy protection which gives a narrative use for the wand!

I will probably go with the floppy version. KQ6 was leaps and bounds better than V, as far as CD versions go!

Reply 8 of 9, by Shagittarius

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Spikey wrote on 2022-11-01, 08:08:

I don't see any benefit from KQ5CD over the floppy, in fact, with the floppy you have fewer bugs, better music (MT-32), no horrible voices and even the copy protection which gives a narrative use for the wand!

Hoooooooooo I don't know if I'd go that far. Hoooooooooo would agree with me?