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is Rage 128 Pro 32MB same as Rage Fury Pro?

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First post, by Lo-ResBros

Posted on 2019-01-23, 04:05

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I have a Rage 128 Pro 32MB PCI (Diablotek VAR 128-32P) card that won’t install windows 98 drivers using the latest drivers from AMD website or any other drivers from the vogons driver library. I get an error saying my video card is not supported with the drivers.

So instead, I’m able to force the drivers to install by updating the drivers and “have disk” option to search within the drivers folder. When I do that I get a list of all kinds of rage cards, all in wonder cards, and rage fury pro, but None of the options are my actually Rage 128 pro PCI card. The Rage Fury Pro driver option does install and seems to work good, but I just want to make sure I’m getting the most out of the video card and not losing any performance from using the rage furo pro driver.

pci.exe says:
Vendor 1002h: Ati Technologies
Device 5050h: Rage 128 PP/Pro PCI (TMDS)

*A note for others who might get one of these cards and may come accross this post. There’s like 6 surface mounted capacitors (22uF 6V) and I was having trouble with the picture till I replaced those caps. Might be a common problem. I was getting a glitchy picture with what looked like distortion. Replaced the caps and its crystal clear now

AMD K6-2+/550MHz
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64MB SDRAM
3DFX Voodoo 3 3000 16MB
Sound Blaster AWE64
Roland SC-55mkII

Pentium MMX 233MHz
Tyan TitanVX S1470 Socket 7
128MB SDRAM
ATi Rage 128 pro 32MB
Audio Plus 320 v.1
Roland SC-88

Reply 1 of 12, by luckybob

Posted on 2019-01-23, 04:34

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not to sound condescending, but if you google both cards, you would easily see the difference, and their similarities.

It is a mistake to think you can solve any major problems just with potatoes.

Reply 2 of 12, by fitzpatr

Posted on 2019-01-23, 05:42

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My understanding is that the Rage 128 Pro is the chip, and the Rage Fury Pro is the name of a released card which has the Rage 128 Pro.

Consequently, yes, they should be functionally equivalent for driver purposes.

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Reply 3 of 12, by luckybob

Posted on 2019-01-23, 05:48

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Ok, I'll need to apologise, I thought you said Rage Fury MAXX...

Jebus, I need to get some proper sleep.

It is a mistake to think you can solve any major problems just with potatoes.

Reply 4 of 12, by Lo-ResBros

Posted on 2019-01-23, 14:24

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luckybob wrote:
Ok, I'll need to apologise, I thought you said Rage Fury MAXX...

Jebus, I need to get some proper sleep.

All good. I did google search and I figured I was ok to use this driver for the card but I just wanted to verify and get a 2nd opinion

AMD K6-2+/550MHz
Soltek SL-54U5 Super Socket 7
64MB SDRAM
3DFX Voodoo 3 3000 16MB
Sound Blaster AWE64
Roland SC-55mkII

Pentium MMX 233MHz
Tyan TitanVX S1470 Socket 7
128MB SDRAM
ATi Rage 128 pro 32MB
Audio Plus 320 v.1
Roland SC-88

Reply 5 of 12, by Lo-ResBros

Posted on 2019-01-23, 14:26

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fitzpatr wrote:
My understanding is that the Rage 128 Pro is the chip, and the Rage Fury Pro is the name of a released card which has the Rage 128 Pro.

Consequently, yes, they should be functionally equivalent for driver purposes.

Thanks for the confirmation and info 😀

AMD K6-2+/550MHz
Soltek SL-54U5 Super Socket 7
64MB SDRAM
3DFX Voodoo 3 3000 16MB
Sound Blaster AWE64
Roland SC-55mkII

Pentium MMX 233MHz
Tyan TitanVX S1470 Socket 7
128MB SDRAM
ATi Rage 128 pro 32MB
Audio Plus 320 v.1
Roland SC-88

Reply 6 of 12, by Almoststew1990

Posted on 2019-01-23, 16:46

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I had this exact same question today so I'm glad this had come up!

ATI still has drivers for pre radeon cards on their site. It seems to be one driver for all these cards, released in 2002 I assume as assume kind of final "wrap up" legacy driver. Does this driver address the driver woes of the late 90s? Is it a good driver or do I need to go for an earlier one? For w9x

Reply 7 of 12, by Lo-ResBros

Posted on 2019-01-23, 22:30

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Almoststew1990 wrote:
I had this exact same question today so I'm glad this had come up!

ATI still has drivers for pre radeon cards on their site. It seems to be one driver for all these cards, released in 2002 I assume as assume kind of final "wrap up" legacy driver. Does this driver address the driver woes of the late 90s? Is it a good driver or do I need to go for an earlier one? For w9x

That’s the one I’m using and it is the latest driver avaialble. I’ve been testing games the past 2 days now and it seems to be working good.

AMD K6-2+/550MHz
Soltek SL-54U5 Super Socket 7
64MB SDRAM
3DFX Voodoo 3 3000 16MB
Sound Blaster AWE64
Roland SC-55mkII

Pentium MMX 233MHz
Tyan TitanVX S1470 Socket 7
128MB SDRAM
ATi Rage 128 pro 32MB
Audio Plus 320 v.1
Roland SC-88

Reply 8 of 12, by SpectriaForce

Posted on 2019-01-24, 22:18

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I have made a topic about your driver installation issue: ATI Rage 128 Pro driver issue fix

Reply 9 of 12, by GulchWinder3D

Posted on 2019-01-26, 17:14

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What's the subsystem ID of your card?
I ran into a similar problem with my PCI Rage 128. After modifying the subsys ID for the entry matching my card's reported device and vendor IDs in Atii9xaa.inf I was able to get the drivers installed through ATI's setup utility without any error.

The card you mentioned seems to match this line:

1"Xpert 128" = 128_DEFAULT,    PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_5050&SUBSYS_00081002

Change that "0008" to whatever 4 digit number is reported by PCI.EXE and give it another go.

Reply 10 of 12, by pinesal

Posted on 2022-02-04, 15:13

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Hello. Sorry to bring this old post back to life but I just did the exact same thing detailed in the OP here. I have a card that is labeled ATI Rage 128 Pro and the driver installer say that no compatible hardware was detected. I did manually install the driver just as described here. There were a bunch to choose from on the driver list including several entries with the same names. Like multiple Rage Fury and multiple Xpert Pro.

What I ended up picking was, "Rage Fury Pro/Xpert Pro 2000" I picked a few of the other also to test ("Rage Fury", "Xpert Pro") and they installed the same and looked the same and performed the same so I am not sure what, if anything, are the differences in the driver choices.

Am I missing out on anything by not running the installer proper? Is manually installing the driver just as well?

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Reply 11 of 12, by agent_x007

Posted on 2022-02-07, 20:52

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Rage 128 Fury/Rage Fury Pro = AGP 4x :
https://vgamuseum.info/index.php/home/item/11 … ti-rage-128-pro

Rage Fury = AGP 2x :
http://vgamuseum.info/index.php/home/item/107 … ati-rage-128-gl

Extra pictures to get things identified easier :
https://overclockers.ru/blog/Kolian/show/1935 … oraya-chast-ati

Reply 12 of 12, by Putas

Posted on 2022-02-08, 14:03

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pinesal wrote on 2022-02-04, 15:13:

Am I missing out on anything by not running the installer proper? Is manually installing the driver just as well?

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