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Reply 520 of 545, by RaVeN-05

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I am interesting's what is most fastest verite card?
i found here https://www.vintage3d.org/dbn.php
Verite 2200 A-grade Rendition V2200 1 1 1 63 63 63 100 64 SGRAM 0.800 DX 5 - full setup 1.97 0 - 1.8 350 - - 1997

But i don't know how exactly this card looks like.

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Reply 522 of 545, by RaVeN-05

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Found that
EF2000 seems comes with latest spd3d.uc (spd3d.uc inside contains header with "ELF" that reminds me apps on linux same or almost same header. Rendition developers is linux funs)))? all dos games comes with spd3d.uc so that means its dynamically linked as for example glide2x.ovl in dos 3dfx?

thare is Nascar2 demo that also have rendition support

there is rumors that if you copy spd3d.uc as spd3d.uc2 it allows you run on v2200 , need to check.

Formula 1 contains weird file winspd3d.uc

by googling "spd3d.uc" you can quickly find games , they all already documented here

tomraider demo can be played with verite card, its can be found on 3d blaster pci diver bonus disk

i also found sp3d3.voh file, looks like source code, or decompiled, in non readable or understanding form (

another idea is to change spd3d.uc from another game to descent2 , so maybe it fix purple color on s220 video card

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Reply 523 of 545, by RaVeN-05

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Source Code for V2Dosfix

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Reply 524 of 545, by RaVeN-05

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Hello need help, i can't run these games on Diamond Stealth II S220 (i use driver sii95110.exe) on Windows 98SE
Formula 1 - can't start without verite files being copied from verite folder, tells me about missing VL_VeriteOpen_ not found on dll, if i patch exe and change to VL_VeriteOpen and generaly for all that exports, it starts and closes so quick. With Verite folder provided by game it starts and when demo should play it goes black screen and freeze computer.
Heavy Gear - it crashes right before briefing fully expanded, software rendered version ok
Team Apache - any other version gave me error "Couldn't find Drivers for ramp graphic option" "Fatal Error"

I have Purple tint in Descent II
and heavy purple tint in Scorched Planet
is that also can be fixed somehow?

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Reply 525 of 545, by vetz

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Are any other Rredline games working in Windows, or is it just those?

Some DOS games will not run correctly, even if you use V2dosfix.
See also: Re: Descent II Hardware-Accelerated and https://groups.google.com/g/alt.games.descent … /m/Png3pBU62woJ

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Reply 526 of 545, by RaVeN-05

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all works , and i make Team Apache and Heavy Gear Woks (almost ) Team Apache donesnot use bilinear filtering and hang sometimes, Heavy Gear only Treaning woks.
All other dos and windows works ok.

so i have only one left to check is "Formula 1"

as i read on internet even on fastest v2200 vQuake and vHexen and vQuake2 will not work faster as on v1000 because code un optimized and designed for v1000. right? so no point to buy v2200 rendition card for these 3 games ?

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Reply 527 of 545, by Agent of the BSoD

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How does one use renutil? I can't find any documentation on it and simply running it changes nothing. It looks like you can pass through some input but I can't tell what I should be doing, and there seems to be no built in help. If anything, I've had it drop performance of applications by half or more instead of speeding them up. I am using a V1000.

All it outputs is:

Function Passed
Current Monitor setting = 0
Function Passed
Current VGA type setting = 1

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Reply 531 of 545, by Gona

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I believe that the V2x00 chips are more CPU hungry, so on slower systems a V1000 can outperform a V2x00,
but on a fast system V2x00 should be win:

swaaye wrote on 2009-10-07, 03:38:
... This is with my Tualeron 1200 MHz setup on the 440BX mobo. CPU should not be a bottleneck as a result. I used the Gold 1998 […]
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This is with my Tualeron 1200 MHz setup on the 440BX mobo. CPU should not be a bottleneck as a result. I used the Gold 1998 MiniGL for the Verite cards. vQuake was run in plain DOS 7 (Ctrl-F5 at boot) and GLQuake is within Win98SE. All default settings. The "AA7" vQuake result with with "r_antialias 7" set in the game for full AA. With vQuake, it appears that the V2200 is hitting vsync as it is enabled by default there.

vQuake
V1000 V2200
320x200 55.4 59.6
320x200 AA7 48.5 52.7
640x480 23.1 31.0

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Chadti99 wrote on 2021-02-01, 17:02:

Got it, thanks!

If anyone has a lead on a V1000 based board please pm me. I see that it might be a bit quicker at lower resolutions.

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Reply 532 of 545, by Chadti99

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Thanks Gona! I’m using my S220 on a POD100 so I’m definitely interested if a v1000 board might eek out a few more frames in vQuake, running at the lowest resolutions. Now I just need to find a v1000 based board.

Reply 533 of 545, by aaronkatrini

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Does anyone with a V1000 (3D Blaster PCI) has experienced overheating on the card?
A friend of mine has one that was working fine, but now his card is overheating and the image gets pixelated and then it stops.
He's using an old Compaq PSU and an ASUS P3B-F motherboard. Did he just fry the card?

Reply 534 of 545, by Aebtdom

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Maybe he is using the fastvoodoo drivers? This one overclocks the card when installed.

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Reply 535 of 545, by aaronkatrini

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Sorry, maybe there was a misunderstanding, the card is the Rendition Verite V1000 from Creative Labs (CT6240) a.k.a 3D Blaster PCI, not the 3dfx Voodoo Banshee PCI.

Reply 536 of 545, by janskjaer

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aaronkatrini wrote on 2021-05-14, 16:11:

Does anyone with a V1000 (3D Blaster PCI) has experienced overheating on the card?
A friend of mine has one that was working fine, but now his card is overheating and the image gets pixelated and then it stops.
He's using an old Compaq PSU and an ASUS P3B-F motherboard. Did he just fry the card?

I have benchmarked my 3D Blaster PCI (CT6240) on both of my ASUS P3B-Fs (v1.03 & v1.04) and have none of the heating or artefact symptoms you have described. Similarly, I've not had any such issues with my v2200 PCI or AGP boards. It sounds like it could be on its way out or perhaps its life has been shortened by aggressive over clocking?

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Reply 537 of 545, by vetz

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Been a while since I used a V1000, but never experienced any issues with them overheating or getting really hot.

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Reply 539 of 545, by ViTi95

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I've checked that Rendition Veritè cards handle extremely bad Mode Y and Mode X video modes (testing FastDoom). More than I thought, is even worse than the Cyrix MediaGX integrated VGA core.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6unNuPympE4

  • Mode Y: 14.446 fps
  • Mode 13h: 59.150 fps
  • Mode VBE2 (LFB, PM): 305.446 fps