As far I know of RTL8110SC, nForce 3, Audigy 2 ZS, CMI8738, Audiophile 24/96 and YMF744 are last with Win9x support as for last who was the last to come out with driver that is Realtek ending in 2008

bristlehog wrote:

For example, Geforce 6800 is last series supported in Windows 98, Radeon HD 3850/4670 are last AGP cards. But I don't know anything else since I am into sound cards, not video ones. Now I'm eager to know.

I got the 7800 GTX working under Windows 98SE, just select GeForce 6800 something when installing the drivers.

bristlehog wrote:

Also, which video cards first started supporting DirectX 9?

ATI Radeon 9700 Pro.

Nope that was GeForce 4 Ti the Radeon 9700 Pro was 5 months later.

Was that a GTX 7800 GS an AGP?

Nope that was GeForce 4 Ti the Radeon 9700 Pro was 5 months later.

Geforce 4 Ti was a DirectX 8 card... From Nvidia the FX series was the first that supported DirectX 9.
https://www.techpowerup.com/gpudb/2134/geforce4-ti-4200

Also on AMD's side the Radeon HD 7xxx/R7 2xx series were the last that had WinXP support.

shspvr wrote:

Nope that was GeForce 4 Ti the Radeon 9700 Pro was 5 months later.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ATi_Radeon_R300_Series
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GeForce_4_series

shspvr wrote:

Was that a GTX 7800 GS an AGP?

I used a 7800 GTX PCIe under Windows 98SE. The reason it shows the right name of the card is because I edited the .INF file of the driver.

Kamerat wrote:

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shspvr wrote:

Nope that was GeForce 4 Ti the Radeon 9700 Pro was 5 months later.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ATi_Radeon_R300_Series
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GeForce_4_series

shspvr wrote:

Was that a GTX 7800 GS an AGP?

I used a 7800 GTX PCIe under Windows 98SE. The reason it shows the right name of the card is because I edited the .INF file of the driver.

Darn it I could pull one over you all LoL I hate that card.
Yes you can do that with 7000 series card but it not an official stock driver and Win9x didn't support PCIe at the time just like with sata.

shspvr wrote:

Darn it I could pull one over you all LoL I hate that card.
Yes you can do that with 7000 series card but it not an official stock driver and Win9x didn't support PCIe at the time just like with sata.

Yes, you can use a stock driver, but then you have to select card manually when installing. SATA works just fine on Windows 98SE, just set onboard controller to compatible and then youre ready to roll. Had about 200 MB/s read speed with a SSD on the onboard controller under 98SE with minimal CPU load, of course you don't have Trim support but you have to go Windows 7 or later for that.

Everything past FX series has DX9 support (exept low end 9000 series Radeons).

List of interesting cards... OK - here's NV :
1) FX 5800 Ultra because it's THE leaf blower
2) FX 5950 Ultra because it's best FX card (best of worst)
2) 6800 Ultra AGP/PCI-e first DX9c card + has official 98 support (last high end native AGP)
3a) 7900 GTX, best DX9c only card from NV (with unofficial 98 SE support)
3b) 7900 GS*/GT AGP, fastest AGP card from NV (*depending on model can be moded to GT) also one Galaxy model "supports" AGP 3,3V : LINK. There are 7600/7300 series cards with AGP 3,3V support as well.
4) 8800 GTX/Ultra, it's legendary (duh), first DirectX 10 card 😀
5) GTX 285, fastest single GPU DirectX 10 only card
6) GTX 480, who doesn't like that grill on top 😁
7) GTX 580, fastest GPU that can be mounted on not that good PCI-e 1.x boards (best first gen DX11 GPU with DX11 and DX12 [FL_11.0] support, example for that DX12 : LINK).
8 ) GT 610 newest PCI (non-e) card
9) GTX 780 Ti, best Kepler (not counting GTX Titan Black) and best official Win XP card from NV
10) GTX 750 (Ti), a good thing to have as "plan B".
Maxwell 2.0 and Pascals aren't that interesting to me at this point.

ATI/AMD :
1) 9800 XT (best DX9a card)
2) X850 XT PE (best DX9b card)
3) X1950 Pro (best perf/$ AGP card with good compatibility)
4) X1950 XTX best DX9c only card (overall) + first GDDR4 😀
5) HD2900 XT first DX10 ATI card
6) HD 3850 AGP, fastest AGP card
7) HD 4670 AGP, newest AGP card
8 ) HD 4870 first GDDR5 card
9) HD 4890 "1GHz", fastest DX10 card from ATI
10) HD 5870 first DX11 card (overall), great DX9/10 performance. Fastest single GPU card from ATI/AMD for PCI-e 1.x systems that can't work with PCI-e 3.0 cards.
11) HD 7970 first GCN card (really good even today thanks to 3GB/384bit VRAM)
12) R9 290X first DirectX 12 (FL_12.0) card
13) R9 Fury (X), first HBM card

I skipped cards that were "unusual" (like Gigabyte 3D1-68GT), and all multi GPU cards.

This is most unusuall and notable card for me from that era....

http://vgamuseum.ru/gpu/atiamd/evans-sutherla … -radeon-9800xt/

agent_x007 wrote:

3b) 7900 GS*/GT AGP, fastest AGP card from NV (*depending on model can be moded to GT) also one Galaxy model "supports" AGP 3,3V : LINK. There are 7600/7300 series cards with AGP 3,3V support as well.

IIRC, 7800GS was the last native AGP card from Nvidia. 7950GT AGP was the fastest AGP from Nvidia.

agent_x007 wrote:

I skipped cards that were "unusual" (like Gigabyte 3D1-68GT), and all multi GPU cards.

I'm starting to echo the sentiment about multi-GPU cards. They've given me a lot of trouble. Might as well buy a pair of same cards and just SLI/XFire.

Anecdotally, a lot of 'bad' cards (fail on 3D, but okay on 2D) for me come from around 2005 (X850) to 2008 (GTX 280) timeframe.

agent_x007 wrote:

Maxwell 2.0 and Pascals aren't that interesting to me at this point.

I think they do deserve a mention, since they're the first, and so far only FL12_1 cards on the market.
The only other FL12_1 capable GPU today comes from Intel.
Whether they'll be notable or not... we'll have to see in a few years, at the end of the DX12 era.

Kamerat wrote:

shspvr wrote:

Darn it I could pull one over you all LoL I hate that card.
Yes you can do that with 7000 series card but it not an official stock driver and Win9x didn't support PCIe at the time just like with sata.

Yes, you can use a stock driver, but then you have to select card manually when installing. SATA works just fine on Windows 98SE, just set onboard controller to compatible and then youre ready to roll. Had about 200 MB/s read speed with a SSD on the onboard controller under 98SE with minimal CPU load, of course you don't have Trim support but you have to go Windows 7 or later for that.

Unless you get an SSD that has built in garbage collection, which most of the newer ones do.

And you can also use PCI SATA controllers on older systems that only have IDE onboard. And there are even Windows 9x drivers for a few different chipsets. Sure you don't get full speed because of the limitation of the PCI bus, but it sure is a massive increase in speed and totally worth it.

I found out about this strange card a couple weeks ago and thought about getting one, but figured it would only be worth it for collectors value.

GTX 275 co-op edition.

It is a GTX 275 card with a GTS 250 built on the card specifically for PhysX.

GeForce 7800GTX 512. Very rare and notable card, it's basically handpicked premium G70 with ultrafast memory. Technically was launched vs another notable ATi card of that time (Radeon 1800XT), but had very limited run.
GeForce FX 5900XT. Mainstream NV35, which proved to be quite successful card for its price.

S3 Chrome of any interest??

It'd be interesting to see how compatible S3 Chromes are with Gona's list.

For me, only a few cards are worth mentioning:

1) Nvidia 6800 Ultra. Last officially supported in Win9x, but also works good in Windows 10. xD
2) Ati X1950XTX. Greatest DX9 card. It's still in service in the family computer. It doesn't need to be replaced yet, as it plays The Sims 4 quite well under Win 10 x64 and my sis is pretty happy.
3) Ati HD3850. Fastest AGP card period. I have it paired with an unlocked E6500K in AsRock 775i65G motherboard. Can play everything 2000-2010.
4) Nvidia 8800GTX. A HUGE leap in perfomance from last generation cards.
5) AMD HD7970. Has aged VERY well, due to GCN architecture still being used in consoles, so many games are written for it (as console --> PC ports). Also big bus (>256bit). Very successful card, together with its little brothers (7950/7870XT with tahiti core).
6) Nvidia 1050Ti LP. Very fast card, with 4GB VRAM in small (low profile) package. The best companion for a today's tiny gaming machine.

That's only 6 cards in the last 14 years. 😁 Way fewer than 1989-2003. 😉