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First post, by McKie1

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In the very slow process of building a dos retro pc like many of us here 😉

With time constraints, work and family it can be difficult to spend time on these projects.

Finally got around to installing the WfW3.11 drivers for the above card. Instructions not a problem.

Just needed a sounding board to confirm my suspicions that these 4Mb cards are unable to display high resolutions at 16M colours without some limitations?

What I mean is that upon selecting 1024 x 768 @ 16M colours and loading WfW3.11 it gives the error “not enough memory to convert all the program icons...

When 65k colours selected no issue 😀

Am I right with my suspicion?

Cheers and thank you for looking at my thread.

Reply 1 of 5, by meljor

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found this:

Table of Video Modes
Resolution (pixels) ColourD(bpp) RAM(Kb) # Colours actual RAM (Kb, Mb)
640x480 1 38.5 2 128 1/8 Mb
800x600 1 60 2 128
1024x768 1 98.3 2 128
640x480 4 153 16 256 1/4 Mb
800x600 4 240 16 256
1024x768 4 394 16 512 1/2 Mb
640x480 8 307.2 256 512
800x600 8 480 256 512
1024x768 8 786.4 256 1024 1 Mb
640x480 16 614.4 65536 1024
800x600 16 960 65536 1024
1024x768 16 1208 65536 2048 2 Mb
640x480 24 921.6 16.7 mil 1024 1 Mb
800x600 24 1440 16.7 mil 2048 2 Mb
1024x768 24 2360 16.7 mil 4096 4 Mb

So basicly that res. should use about 2360kb and therefor 4096kb should be more than enough?

Edit: the table is not that clear to read, here's the link if needed: http://clubweb.interbaun.com/~mward/a_plus/scrn_res_ram.pdf

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asus p5a, k6-3+ @ 550mhz, voodoo2 12mb sli, gf2 gts, awe32
asus p3b-f, p3-700, voodoo3 3500TV agp, awe64
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Reply 2 of 5, by McKie1

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meljor wrote:
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found this:

Table of Video Modes
Resolution (pixels) ColourD(bpp) RAM(Kb) # Colours actual RAM (Kb, Mb)
640x480 1 38.5 2 128 1/8 Mb
800x600 1 60 2 128
1024x768 1 98.3 2 128
640x480 4 153 16 256 1/4 Mb
800x600 4 240 16 256
1024x768 4 394 16 512 1/2 Mb
640x480 8 307.2 256 512
800x600 8 480 256 512
1024x768 8 786.4 256 1024 1 Mb
640x480 16 614.4 65536 1024
800x600 16 960 65536 1024
1024x768 16 1208 65536 2048 2 Mb
640x480 24 921.6 16.7 mil 1024 1 Mb
800x600 24 1440 16.7 mil 2048 2 Mb
1024x768 24 2360 16.7 mil 4096 4 Mb

So basicly that res. should use about 2360kb and therefor 4096kb should be more than enough?

Edit: the table is not that clear to read, here's the link if needed: http://clubweb.interbaun.com/~mward/a_plus/scrn_res_ram.pdf

Thank you so much for the info. Looks like maybe 4Mb kind of hits a limit.

Nearly all the icons appear correctly, however say 5-10% just show a black icon.

Cheers 😀

Probably would be okay if most were minimised, rather than all folders open showing all icons 😀

Reply 4 of 5, by McKie1

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lazibayer wrote:

Thank you for the link.

Between that link and the above information, it all makes sense now 😀

If I break the Awe64 folder into two it should fix it.

Will test and report back 😀

Cheers and thank you both