If it has 6ns RAM chips it very well could be Extreme.

Putas wrote on 2020-05-11, 10:04:

If it has 6ns RAM chips it very well could be Extreme.

It has -6 ns rams, oh yeah! 😁 Does it use the standard latest S3 drivers or I need some specific Number 9 version? I will check in the vogonsdrivers.

Interesting, I've seen the ATi Rage Mobility-P should have both Motion Compensation plus IDCT support being based on the Rage 128 chip. Is it correct? I may bench it versus the Rage Pro Turbo card. 😀
I remember having in the past an old notebook with the -M version of that chip and could play some "heavy" games like Unreal.

Number9 S3 cards with Dvi are the Extreme variant if my memory is correct. The Pros are VGA only...

It would help to know if these are AGP or PCI..

appiah4 wrote on 2020-05-11, 11:44:

It would help to know if these are AGP or PCI..

They all are AGP. The 6200 I suppose is the only one supporting 8x. The others all 1x/2x beside the Radeon 7000 and Rage Mobility-P seems a 1x/2x/4x same connector of the 6200.

Quick testing feelings using a P3-500 Katmai, 512mb PC100 CL2, i440BX, Windows ME; I can say I am impressed by some things. The Radeon 7000 based on the RV100 I was expecting it to be much faster than it seems to be clocked at 148Mhz and double that for ram but 64bit, got 1629 at 3DMark2000 and 780 at 3DMark2001. It seems a good card for an HTPC cause support IDCT just like the 9250 I had before and having already the great DVI connector for my old TV. But for performances, maybe the P3-500 is the limit here even if with the 9250 maybe for the Nature test support I remember much higher fps even in 3Dmark2000 frame rates were much higher with the same cpu.
For the Rage Pro Turbo seen as Xpert@Work 98, I was expecting better.. 3DMark2000 shows quite lot of strange rendering in default mode, not artifacts but like it's not supporting some features and the results with same setup were 1397 with 3DMark99 (cpu 7463) and 635 with 3DMark2000. I like the card PCB layout anyway but I was expecting better quality.
What really surprised me was, you will not beleive it, the Rage IIC 8MB AGP unknown brand latest drivers: I never really tested deeply this card but I always thought about it like a S3 Virge DX experience, basically mostly 2D and some specific old games. Instead it surprised me since the desktop with really good 2D vga signal and general speed but mostly supporting 3Dmark99 which resulted in 436 points, low but I wasn't even expecting it to run and not that bad rendering I've to say; and to be even more surprised I've launched both Half Life and it runs playable @ 400x300 with a general good and unexpected texture rendering and filtering become unplayable @ 640x480 but I wasn't expecting it to support anything at first. And to end up even more impressed, I launched Thief 2 game, that's really not a light game, and it worked playable at 400x300 and with all the rendering effects. Also it may support some DVD decoding I suppose motion compensation (?) in WinDVD it is recognized as ATi and DVD runs great with 10 to 20% cpu usage.
Still have to test the Number 9. The Rage Mobility-P works with the Rage Pro drivers but I don't think they are the right one cause no games seems to run and it show a black screen and generally seems unstable.

386SX wrote on 2020-05-11, 15:34:

Quick testing feelings using a P3-500 Katmai, 512mb PC100 CL2, i440BX, Windows ME; I can say I am impressed by some things. The […]
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Quick testing feelings using a P3-500 Katmai, 512mb PC100 CL2, i440BX, Windows ME; I can say I am impressed by some things. The Radeon 7000 based on the RV100 I was expecting it to be much faster than it seems to be clocked at 148Mhz and double that for ram but 64bit, got 1629 at 3DMark2000 and 780 at 3DMark2001. It seems a good card for an HTPC cause support IDCT just like the 9250 I had before and having already the great DVI connector for my old TV. But for performances, maybe the P3-500 is the limit here even if with the 9250 maybe for the Nature test support I remember much higher fps even in 3Dmark2000 frame rates were much higher with the same cpu.
For the Rage Pro Turbo seen as Xpert@Work 98, I was expecting better.. 3DMark2000 shows quite lot of strange rendering in default mode, not artifacts but like it's not supporting some features and the results with same setup were 1397 with 3DMark99 (cpu 7463) and 635 with 3DMark2000. I like the card PCB layout anyway but I was expecting better quality.
What really surprised me was, you will not beleive it, the Rage IIC 8MB AGP unknown brand latest drivers: I never really tested deeply this card but I always thought about it like a S3 Virge DX experience, basically mostly 2D and some specific old games. Instead it surprised me since the desktop with really good 2D vga signal and general speed but mostly supporting 3Dmark99 which resulted in 436 points, low but I wasn't even expecting it to run and not that bad rendering I've to say; and to be even more surprised I've launched both Half Life and it runs playable @ 400x300 with a general good and unexpected texture rendering and filtering become unplayable @ 640x480 but I wasn't expecting it to support anything at first. And to end up even more impressed, I launched Thief 2 game, that's really not a light game, and it worked playable at 400x300 and with all the rendering effects. Also it may support some DVD decoding I suppose motion compensation (?) in WinDVD it is recognized as ATi and DVD runs great with 10 to 20% cpu usage.
Still have to test the Number 9. The Rage Mobility-P works with the Rage Pro drivers but I don't think they are the right one cause no games seems to run and it show a black screen and generally seems unstable.

The generic S3 Savage drivers should work. And as for the Rage Mobility P, try the drivers archived on Z's site. Someone from Vogons really should archive those oldschool drivers -> http://www.oocities.org/ziyadhosein/rprow98.htm

386SX wrote on 2020-05-11, 09:54:

Hi,
I've found some old video cards for some config I may decide to build.

1) Number 9 AGP SR9 SGRAM with heatsink, four SGRAM module, DVI, I suppose 16MB but can't say if Savage4 Extreme chip? PCB 01-338340-00 REV 00 SR9

It certainly is savage 4 extreme, it's clocked at 160 mhz an ram is at 166 mhz. Very fast card but hard to overclock due to small heatsink