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PIII + ATI Radeon 9800 proven ATI driver for Windows 2000 OpenGL? and debugging why its not working for my install..

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Reply 20 of 55, by ruthan

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Ok, i deleted the key, but it is still the same, maybe some other registry keys are in the play.. - i means there are often some machines, users etc.. branches with same values etc..

Otherwise in XP is settings for (Windows NT-branch, im not sure if for WinXP is valid Windows NT or only Windows -branch) are values the same, if im not wrong and Glinfo is reporting right things.

WinXP registry + Glinfo photos:

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Reply 21 of 55, by bakemono

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ruthan wrote on 2021-05-15, 00:38:

I tried Blackwingcats drivers, but 9.x and 10.xx seems to support only newer cards

Did you try the Radeon Legacy drivers? http://blog.livedoor.jp/blackwingcat/archives/967121.html

I used one of these (can't remember if it was 9.8 or 10.2) with an X1300 and it seemed to work.

again another retro game on itch: https://90soft90.itch.io/shmup-salad

Reply 22 of 55, by Styler

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Alright, if glinfo2 shows the driver correctly, you need to take a look into the root of your game/app folder and remove "opengl32.dll " if it's there. And you don't need "ati2dvag" string value that you've placed instead of "3dfxogl", just "ati2dvag"sub-key in OpenGLDrivers root folder with its values.

Reply 23 of 55, by ruthan

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Alright, if glinfo2 shows the driver correctly

No correct is only GLinfo from XP install, Win2000 is still the same - broken - same output- after key removal and reboot.
+ Quake 3 has not own openGL32, only Hexen 2 / GLQuake are using these.. Quake 2 and other have reg_gl.dll or something similar.

Did you try the Radeon Legacy drivers? http://blog.livedoor.jp/blackwingcat/archives/967121.html

Well these drivers when are installed hrough device manager, maybe not even set some registry values.. 6.14 installer had sull setup.exe.. so even when they are ok, they will not fix my problem.

Otherwise im trying to stay away of BlackWingCats.. things i already got burnt.. i installed some its updates,extensions from link above.. and now Add-Remove program wizzard is not working.. and vlupdate script is no more working - Procedure entry point swrintf_s could not be located in the dynamic link luibrary msvcrt.dll.. error.. + Cant find script engine "VBScript.Encode" from C:\Documents and Settens\ruthan\Desktop\wlupdate.vbec.. .. its form runtimes mess, which needs fix and its broken by these.. so i would call them incomplete solutions.. and already tested non legacy drivers.. Im not even sure if these things arent for too new systems with SSE2 and other modern extensions..

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Reply 24 of 55, by ruthan

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Does someone knows, if Sysinternals Regmon and Filemon are working for Windows 2000? Because if they does, i can check which files are registry values are used when games are executed..

Im old goal oriented goatman, i care about facts and freedom, not about egos+prejudices. Hoarding=sickness. If you want respect, gain it by your behavior. I hate stupid SW limits, SW=virtual world, everything should be possible if you have enough raw HW.

Reply 26 of 55, by Styler

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This is my machine. W2K + SP4, ATI FireGL X3-256 (X800 PRO analog ) with Catalyst 6.4 driver. Everything works as it should. I guess you have some mess with system files. Did you try to cleanup your drivers with Drivers Cleaner?

download/file.php?mode=view&id=110156

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Reply 27 of 55, by ruthan

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Reinstall is easy way, we will learn nothing from it.. and if generally against it, because when i have more customized system if big waste of effort. My problem was same and here, before i started yesterday mess with BlackWingsCat things.. so its not related and i still hope, i will fix problems with his patches later..

I really thing that problem has to be some registry keys, we found 1 its not apparently right one.. I checked if machine has more Control set, but there is only 1, so problem has to be elsewhere..

So far i did not use driver cleaner, because we thing that everything is set right.. if they are some setting wrong they could be at least checked manually.. But yes maybe is that Cleaner doing more things than even know.

Drivers im using 6.14, Styler is using 6.4 that is difference too.. but i really doubt that problem is there, this is quite strange problem.. if this is not some super specific flawed drivers version, when ATI messed whole OpenGL implementation, it will not help us.

Im old goal oriented goatman, i care about facts and freedom, not about egos+prejudices. Hoarding=sickness. If you want respect, gain it by your behavior. I hate stupid SW limits, SW=virtual world, everything should be possible if you have enough raw HW.

Reply 28 of 55, by ruthan

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Good news Filemon and Regmon are working.. there are outputs filter to Quake3 process.. In Filemon ouput seems to be nothing interested just *.pk3 files are loaded, but in Regmon is lots of registry checked, some are not successull and of course lots of them are not videocard related, but thing that we have some clues.. This abit stupid there are is not header..

Filemon:
#; TIme;Process;Request;Path;Results:Other

Regmon:
#; TIme;Process;Request;Path;Results:Other

So we can at least compare working and not working outputs.. if you can make some logs.

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Reply 29 of 55, by ruthan

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Here is Regmon for GLinfo, that would be probably easier to analyze..

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Reply 30 of 55, by Putas

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ruthan wrote on 2021-05-15, 18:59:

... if this is not some super specific flawed drivers version, when ATI messed whole OpenGL implementation, it will not help us.

That was happening way too often.

Reply 31 of 55, by ruthan

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I tried - 6.4 driver - combo XP+2k, if exist some 2k version let me know..

And blackWingCats 9.8 Legacy.

Both gave me boot crash.. so this not the way. I try that driver cleaner and clean 6.14 install..

Im old goal oriented goatman, i care about facts and freedom, not about egos+prejudices. Hoarding=sickness. If you want respect, gain it by your behavior. I hate stupid SW limits, SW=virtual world, everything should be possible if you have enough raw HW.

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There is also of course possiblity that these drivers simply not like some autostarted programs which im using, its crashing when desktop should load at the end of boot process before wogon screen.. Im Teamviewer, VNC server and Fraps.. i could try to disable them.. or check some bootlog, if Windows 200 haves something like that..

Im old goal oriented goatman, i care about facts and freedom, not about egos+prejudices. Hoarding=sickness. If you want respect, gain it by your behavior. I hate stupid SW limits, SW=virtual world, everything should be possible if you have enough raw HW.

Reply 33 of 55, by Styler

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I believe that it's pure drivers problem. Maybe (as I said before) you have mismatch in drivers files set. This happened with my system as well - some dll file have been copied from installation folder and some Windows kept from the previous installation. If this is a case, when weird stuff can definitely happen. If you don't want to use cleanup tools, you can manually check files set, comparing installed version and files from your installation folder. If your driver files are packed (ends with "_") you can unpack them with console command "expand -r *.*_" and after unpacking delete packed version with command "del *.*_". Then look into files properties to check "Product version". File versions have to match with driver info details.

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Reply 34 of 55, by ruthan

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I already tried Drivers clean up, but its the same, Opengl is still generic after 6.14 reinstall .. also tried to disable auto startup programs if 6.4 drivers will boot.. but without success.

But i have more info, there is bootlog from 6.4 drivers (its in Windows\ntblog* file).. and when i disabled autorestart, i got also Bluescreen number, but these things are often unclear, at least for me..

Failed bootLog

Service Pack 4 5 14 2021 20:00:04.500
Loaded driver \WINNT\system32\ntoskrnl.exe
Loaded driver \WINNT\system32\hal.dll
Loaded driver \WINNT\system32\BOOTVID.dll
Loaded driver ACPI.sys
Loaded driver \WINNT\system32\DRIVERS\WMILIB.SYS
Loaded driver pci.sys
Loaded driver isapnp.sys
Loaded driver pciide.sys
Loaded driver \WINNT\system32\DRIVERS\PCIIDEX.SYS
Loaded driver MountMgr.sys
Loaded driver ftdisk.sys
Loaded driver Diskperf.sys
Loaded driver dmload.sys
Loaded driver dmio.sys
Loaded driver PartMgr.sys
Loaded driver atapi.sys
Loaded driver disk.sys
Loaded driver \WINNT\system32\DRIVERS\CLASSPNP.SYS
Loaded driver KSecDD.sys
Loaded driver Ntfs.sys
Loaded driver NDIS.sys
Loaded driver viaagp.sys
Loaded driver Mup.sys
Did not load driver ACPI Uniprocessor PC
Did not load driver Audio Codecs
Did not load driver Legacy Audio Drivers
Did not load driver Media Control Devices
Did not load driver Legacy Video Capture Devices
Did not load driver Video Codecs
Did not load driver Audio Codecs
Did not load driver Legacy Audio Drivers
Did not load driver Media Control Devices
Did not load driver Legacy Video Capture Devices
Did not load driver Video Codecs
Did not load driver Communications Port
Did not load driver Communications Port
Did not load driver ECP Printer Port
Did not load driver RADEON 9800 PRO
Did not load driver RADEON 9800 PRO - Secondary
Did not load driver Communications Port
Did not load driver Communications Port
Did not load driver ECP Printer Port
Did not load driver Communications Port
Did not load driver Communications Port
Did not load driver ECP Printer Port
Did not load driver Game Port for Creative
Did not load driver Creative Sound Blaster 16 Plug and Play (WDM)
Did not load driver RADEON 9800 PRO
Did not load driver RADEON 9800 PRO - Secondary
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\i8042prt.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\mouclass.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\kbdclass.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\fdc.sys
Did not load driver Communications Port
Did not load driver Communications Port
Did not load driver ECP Printer Port
Did not load driver Game Port for Creative
Did not load driver Creative Sound Blaster 16 Plug and Play (WDM)
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\System32\Drivers\Cdr4_2K.SYS
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\cdrom.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\System32\Drivers\Cdralw2k.SYS
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\uhcd.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\EL2K_2K.sys
Did not load driver Audio Codecs
Did not load driver Legacy Audio Drivers
Did not load driver Media Control Devices
Did not load driver Legacy Video Capture Devices
Did not load driver Video Codecs
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\rasl2tp.sys
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Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\ndiswan.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\raspptp.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\ptilink.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\raspti.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\parallel.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\swenum.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\update.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\flpydisk.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\usbhub.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\System32\Drivers\NDProxy.SYS
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\System32\Drivers\EFS.SYS
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Did not load driver \SystemRoot\System32\Drivers\lbrtfdc.SYS
Did not load driver \SystemRoot\System32\Drivers\Sfloppy.SYS
Did not load driver \SystemRoot\System32\Drivers\Changer.SYS
Did not load driver \SystemRoot\System32\Drivers\Cdaudio.SYS
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\System32\Drivers\Fs_Rec.SYS
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\System32\Drivers\Null.SYS
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\System32\Drivers\Beep.SYS
Did not load driver \SystemRoot\System32\Drivers\sglfb.SYS
Did not load driver \SystemRoot\System32\Drivers\tga.SYS
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\System32\drivers\vga.sys
Did not load driver mnmdd.SYS
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\System32\Drivers\Msfs.SYS
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\System32\Drivers\Npfs.SYS
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\rasacd.sys
Did not load driver Wanarp.SYS
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\msgpc.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\tcpip.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\netbt.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\netbios.sys
Did not load driver Parport.SYS
Did not load driver Serial.SYS
Did not load driver \SystemRoot\System32\Drivers\PCIDump.SYS
Did not load driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\redbook.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\rdbss.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\mrxsmb.sys
Did not load driver HWiNFO.SYS
Did not load driver RADEON 9800 PRO
Did not load driver RADEON 9800 PRO - Secondary
Did not load driver Communications Port
Did not load driver Communications Port
Did not load driver ECP Printer Port
Did not load driver Game Port for Creative
Did not load driver Creative Sound Blaster 16 Plug and Play (WDM)
Did not load driver Audio Codecs
Did not load driver Legacy Audio Drivers
Did not load driver Media Control Devices
Did not load driver Legacy Video Capture Devices
Did not load driver Video Codecs
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\System32\Drivers\Fastfat.SYS
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\System32\drivers\afd.sys
Did not load driver RADEON 9800 PRO
Did not load driver RADEON 9800 PRO - Secondary
Did not load driver Communications Port
Did not load driver Communications Port
Did not load driver ECP Printer Port
Did not load driver Game Port for Creative
Did not load driver Creative Sound Blaster 16 Plug and Play (WDM)
Did not load driver Audio Codecs
Did not load driver Legacy Audio Drivers
Did not load driver Media Control Devices
Did not load driver Legacy Video Capture Devices
Did not load driver Video Codecs
Did not load driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\rdbss.sys
Did not load driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\mrxsmb.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\srv.sys
Did not load driver Microsoft WINMM WDM Audio Compatibility Driver
Service Pack 4 5 15 2021 02:16:36.500
Loaded driver \WINNT\system32\ntoskrnl.exe
Loaded driver \WINNT\system32\hal.dll
Loaded driver \WINNT\system32\BOOTVID.dll
Loaded driver ACPI.sys
Loaded driver \WINNT\system32\DRIVERS\WMILIB.SYS
Loaded driver pci.sys
Loaded driver isapnp.sys
Loaded driver pciide.sys
Loaded driver \WINNT\system32\DRIVERS\PCIIDEX.SYS
Loaded driver MountMgr.sys
Loaded driver ftdisk.sys
Loaded driver Diskperf.sys
Loaded driver dmload.sys
Loaded driver dmio.sys
Loaded driver PartMgr.sys
Loaded driver atapi.sys
Loaded driver disk.sys
Loaded driver \WINNT\system32\DRIVERS\CLASSPNP.SYS
Loaded driver KSecDD.sys
Loaded driver Ntfs.sys
Loaded driver NDIS.sys
Loaded driver viaagp.sys
Loaded driver Mup.sys
Did not load driver ACPI Uniprocessor PC
Did not load driver Audio Codecs
Did not load driver Legacy Audio Drivers
Did not load driver Media Control Devices
Did not load driver Legacy Video Capture Devices
Did not load driver Video Codecs
Did not load driver Audio Codecs
Did not load driver Legacy Audio Drivers
Did not load driver Media Control Devices
Did not load driver Legacy Video Capture Devices
Did not load driver Video Codecs
Did not load driver Communications Port
Did not load driver Communications Port
Did not load driver ECP Printer Port
Did not load driver RADEON 9800 PRO
Did not load driver RADEON 9800 PRO - Secondary
Did not load driver Communications Port
Did not load driver Communications Port
Did not load driver ECP Printer Port
Did not load driver Communications Port
Did not load driver Communications Port
Did not load driver ECP Printer Port
Did not load driver Game Port for Creative
Did not load driver Creative Sound Blaster 16 Plug and Play (WDM)
Did not load driver RADEON 9800 PRO
Did not load driver RADEON 9800 PRO - Secondary
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\i8042prt.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\mouclass.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\kbdclass.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\fdc.sys
Did not load driver Communications Port
Did not load driver Communications Port
Did not load driver ECP Printer Port
Did not load driver Game Port for Creative
Did not load driver Creative Sound Blaster 16 Plug and Play (WDM)
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\System32\Drivers\Cdr4_2K.SYS
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\cdrom.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\System32\Drivers\Cdralw2k.SYS
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\uhcd.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\EL2K_2K.sys
Did not load driver Audio Codecs
Did not load driver Legacy Audio Drivers
Did not load driver Media Control Devices
Did not load driver Legacy Video Capture Devices
Did not load driver Video Codecs
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\rasl2tp.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\ndistapi.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\ndiswan.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\raspptp.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\ptilink.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\raspti.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\parallel.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\swenum.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\update.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\flpydisk.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\usbhub.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\System32\Drivers\NDProxy.SYS
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\System32\Drivers\EFS.SYS
Did not load driver \SystemRoot\System32\Drivers\NDProxy.SYS
Did not load driver \SystemRoot\System32\Drivers\lbrtfdc.SYS
Did not load driver \SystemRoot\System32\Drivers\Sfloppy.SYS
Did not load driver \SystemRoot\System32\Drivers\Changer.SYS
Did not load driver \SystemRoot\System32\Drivers\Cdaudio.SYS
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\System32\Drivers\Fs_Rec.SYS
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\System32\Drivers\Null.SYS
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\System32\Drivers\Beep.SYS
Did not load driver \SystemRoot\System32\Drivers\sglfb.SYS
Did not load driver \SystemRoot\System32\Drivers\tga.SYS
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\System32\drivers\vga.sys
Did not load driver mnmdd.SYS
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\System32\Drivers\Msfs.SYS
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\System32\Drivers\Npfs.SYS
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\rasacd.sys
Did not load driver Wanarp.SYS
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\msgpc.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\tcpip.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\netbt.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\netbios.sys
Did not load driver Parport.SYS
Did not load driver Serial.SYS
Did not load driver \SystemRoot\System32\Drivers\PCIDump.SYS
Did not load driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\redbook.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\rdbss.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\mrxsmb.sys
Did not load driver HWiNFO.SYS
Did not load driver RADEON 9800 PRO
Did not load driver RADEON 9800 PRO - Secondary
Did not load driver Communications Port
Did not load driver Communications Port
Did not load driver ECP Printer Port
Did not load driver Game Port for Creative
Did not load driver Creative Sound Blaster 16 Plug and Play (WDM)
Did not load driver Audio Codecs
Did not load driver Legacy Audio Drivers
Did not load driver Media Control Devices
Did not load driver Legacy Video Capture Devices
Did not load driver Video Codecs
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\System32\Drivers\Fastfat.SYS
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\System32\drivers\afd.sys
Did not load driver RADEON 9800 PRO
Did not load driver RADEON 9800 PRO - Secondary
Did not load driver Communications Port
Did not load driver Communications Port
Did not load driver ECP Printer Port
Did not load driver Game Port for Creative
Did not load driver Creative Sound Blaster 16 Plug and Play (WDM)
Did not load driver Audio Codecs
Did not load driver Legacy Audio Drivers
Did not load driver Media Control Devices
Did not load driver Legacy Video Capture Devices
Did not load driver Video Codecs
Did not load driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\rdbss.sys
Did not load driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\mrxsmb.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\srv.sys
Did not load driver Microsoft WINMM WDM Audio Compatibility Driver

Maybe i need some better MB drivers or something like that, because some AGP GPU mess was quite typical in this age.. MB is Gigabyte GA-6VTXE6 - and yeah VIA Apollo PRo133A mess, but im not sure which other chipset were available for these Tualatin PIII, im glad that i got some MB for it.. and i thing that i bought this because of good max mem possiblity.. i have some much later ECS Socket A K7S5A board, which can handle only 1GB of mem, this can handle 1,5 GB.

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Im old goal oriented goatman, i care about facts and freedom, not about egos+prejudices. Hoarding=sickness. If you want respect, gain it by your behavior. I hate stupid SW limits, SW=virtual world, everything should be possible if you have enough raw HW.

Reply 35 of 55, by ruthan

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In device manager my driver version is 6.14.10.6360 you have 6.14.10.6606 so its a bit different.. and probably newer. Installer Setup.exe has reports 6.11.100.1300..

Im old goal oriented goatman, i care about facts and freedom, not about egos+prejudices. Hoarding=sickness. If you want respect, gain it by your behavior. I hate stupid SW limits, SW=virtual world, everything should be possible if you have enough raw HW.

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Here is good boot.log for comparison..

Good bootlog

Service Pack 4 5 15 2021 23:55:24.500
Loaded driver \WINNT\system32\ntoskrnl.exe
Loaded driver \WINNT\system32\hal.dll
Loaded driver \WINNT\system32\BOOTVID.dll
Loaded driver ACPI.sys
Loaded driver \WINNT\system32\DRIVERS\WMILIB.SYS
Loaded driver pci.sys
Loaded driver isapnp.sys
Loaded driver pciide.sys
Loaded driver \WINNT\system32\DRIVERS\PCIIDEX.SYS
Loaded driver MountMgr.sys
Loaded driver ftdisk.sys
Loaded driver Diskperf.sys
Loaded driver dmload.sys
Loaded driver dmio.sys
Loaded driver PartMgr.sys
Loaded driver atapi.sys
Loaded driver disk.sys
Loaded driver \WINNT\system32\DRIVERS\CLASSPNP.SYS
Loaded driver fltmgr.sys
Loaded driver KSecDD.sys
Loaded driver Ntfs.sys
Loaded driver NDIS.sys
Loaded driver viaagp.sys
Loaded driver Mup.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\ati2mtag.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\i8042prt.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\mouclass.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\kbdclass.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\fdc.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\serial.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\serenum.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\parport.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\gameenum.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\drivers\ctlsb16.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\System32\Drivers\Cdr4_2K.SYS
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\cdrom.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\System32\Drivers\Cdralw2k.SYS
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\uhcd.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\EL2K_2K.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\audstub.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\rasl2tp.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\ndistapi.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\ndiswan.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\raspptp.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\ptilink.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\raspti.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\parallel.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\swenum.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\update.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\flpydisk.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\usbhub.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\System32\Drivers\NDProxy.SYS
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\System32\Drivers\EFS.SYS
Did not load driver \SystemRoot\System32\Drivers\NDProxy.SYS
Did not load driver \SystemRoot\System32\Drivers\lbrtfdc.SYS
Did not load driver \SystemRoot\System32\Drivers\Sfloppy.SYS
Did not load driver \SystemRoot\System32\Drivers\Cdaudio.SYS
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\System32\Drivers\Fs_Rec.SYS
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\System32\Drivers\Null.SYS
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\System32\Drivers\Beep.SYS
Did not load driver \SystemRoot\System32\Drivers\sglfb.SYS
Did not load driver \SystemRoot\System32\Drivers\tga.SYS
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\System32\drivers\vga.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\System32\Drivers\mnmdd.SYS
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\System32\Drivers\Msfs.SYS
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\System32\Drivers\Npfs.SYS
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\rasacd.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\msgpc.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\tcpip.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\wanarp.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\netbt.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\netbios.sys
Did not load driver \SystemRoot\System32\Drivers\PCIDump.SYS
Did not load driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\redbook.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\rdbss.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\mrxsmb.sys
Loaded driver \??\C:\WINNT\system32\drivers\HWiNFO32.SYS
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\System32\Drivers\Fastfat.SYS
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\nwlnkipx.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\nwlnknb.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\System32\drivers\afd.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\nwlnkspx.sys
Did not load driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\fxgpio.sys
Did not load driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\fxptl.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\System32\Drivers\ParVdm.SYS
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\System32\Drivers\Fips.SYS
Did not load driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\rdbss.sys
Did not load driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\mrxsmb.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\srv.sys
Did not load driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\nwlnkspx.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\drivers\wdmaud.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\drivers\sysaudio.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\drivers\swmidi.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\drivers\DMusic.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\drivers\kmixer.sys
Did not load driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\nwlnkspx.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\System32\Drivers\Cdfs.SYS
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\hidgame.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\ipsec.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\drivers\kmixer.sys

I think that with a bit log good analytic mind can find some clues..

Im old goal oriented goatman, i care about facts and freedom, not about egos+prejudices. Hoarding=sickness. If you want respect, gain it by your behavior. I hate stupid SW limits, SW=virtual world, everything should be possible if you have enough raw HW.

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These boot log almost never point to exact failing line, but when i compare that which is working and not working there are two lines on place when it is broking..
Loaded driver viaagp.sys // its always loading
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\ati2mtag.sys // this line is there only when driver is booting..

But with this we can only find why some older driver is not working if 6.14 is working for others for OpenGL, my problem is elsewhere i would really bet my money on some registry keys..

I see here on Vogons some experts on exact VIA AGP version drivers at least for XP and Win98.. my add / remove programs wizzard is now not working, but i guess that i have some default drivers..
When i check Device manager i have there some VIA Tech CPu to AGP Controller with Microsft Driver - 6/19/2003.. in hidden devices i had some 3dfx leftovers, but already removed them and no change.. there is also some ATI - hidden device.. not actuv ATICDSDr - Display Driver name: Unknown, Service Status: Unavailable - check pleas if you have it too.. I could be some mess.

Im old goal oriented goatman, i care about facts and freedom, not about egos+prejudices. Hoarding=sickness. If you want respect, gain it by your behavior. I hate stupid SW limits, SW=virtual world, everything should be possible if you have enough raw HW.

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When check registry, there are still some 3dfx leftovers .. in CurrentControles\Ebyn\OCU\Ven121A- which are pointing to some fxpl service.. but these keys cant be delete.. they are maybe dynamic and mess with some videocard nebo memory mapping..

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Im old goal oriented goatman, i care about facts and freedom, not about egos+prejudices. Hoarding=sickness. If you want respect, gain it by your behavior. I hate stupid SW limits, SW=virtual world, everything should be possible if you have enough raw HW.

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Other piece of puzzle Glinfo Regmon log from working XP install for side by side comparison, from other working Win2000 install it would be better but, better something than nothing.

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