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First post, by dhruba.bandopadhyay

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Am wanting to run an old PC (coder) demo such as:

Timeless: http://www.pouet.net/prod.php?which=2878
Ambience: http://www.pouet.net/prod.php?which=2879
Luminati: http://www.pouet.net/prod.php?which=2880

I tried running them under VDMSound 2.0.4. I can get the sound for Ambience, but

no screen/picture.

I have yet to try DOSBox, but was told that DOSBox won't support such

resolution/frequency.

Does anyone know whether VMWare can install MS-DOS 6.2? If so, what about sound

drivers? Will VMWare emulate Sound Blaster?

Or if I were to install MS-DOS 6.2 on my Toshiba A100 laptop & PC P4 3GHz... what chances are that I will get a DOS sound driver for such new todays motherboards? (the sound card is built into most today's motherboards, eg. Intel chipsets, etc).

Does anyone know of a universal DOS sound driver that will emulate and work with Intel motherboard chipsets?

Reply 1 of 9, by DosFreak

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Your best bets:

1. Get an ancient computer.
2. Use DosBox. (Don't trust what people say...actually use something before you decide to try something else)

Don't even consider Vmware or bother looking for DOS drivers for your integrated sound card.

You may be able to stick an old Audigy sound card into that P4 and get sound working with that tho.

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Reply 2 of 9, by 5u3

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dhruba.bandopadhyay wrote:
Am wanting to run an old PC (coder) demo such as: […]
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Am wanting to run an old PC (coder) demo such as:

Timeless: http://www.pouet.net/prod.php?which=2878
Ambience: http://www.pouet.net/prod.php?which=2879
Luminati: http://www.pouet.net/prod.php?which=2880

DosFreak wrote:

Your best bets:
1. Get an ancient computer.
2. Use DosBox. (Don't trust what people say...actually use something before you decide to try something else)

Get an ancient monitor as well. Tran's radical VGA programming sends many LCDs (and modern CRTs) whimpering into the corner, maybe displaying the "Out of sync" message. But remember to get a good ancient monitor, because cheesy ones may go up in smoke when watching these demos 😉

(Edit:) Btw, I just tested the three demos wit Dosbox. Timeless works fine, Ambience and Luminati need a lot of cycles and glitch with dynamic core 😒

Reply 3 of 9, by dhruba.bandopadhyay

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So are you telling me that a Sound Blaster Audigy should be backwards compatible with Sound Blaster Pro / 16... to get the demos to work? I just been briefly overviewing http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sound_Blaster to see the different Sound Blasters.... however a lot of demos have support for Sound Blaster, Sound Blaster Pro, Sound Blaster 16...

As for DOSBox, yes, I have to increase the cycles and put it in dynamic core... and still I get lots of flashing going on.... I think the merging of 2 screen buffers isn't going very well there....

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Reply 4 of 9, by 5u3

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Personally I think you should forget about getting a PCI SoundBlaster card (SBLive, Audigy) for this purpose. Yes, there are unofficial DOS drivers that emulate a SB16, but they only work with a few games, and they need EMS, which usually means protected mode, which makes it impossible to run 70% of the classic DOS scene demos. Apart from that, many demos do not support SB cards, needing a Gravis Ultrasound instead.
For older demos Dosbox is the ideal emulator, it does a fantastic job on a reasonably fast machine. If you don't want to build an oldschool DOS computer (preferably with GUS and a fast VGA card), Dosbox remains the only alternative that makes sense.

Reply 5 of 9, by dhruba.bandopadhyay

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I think I used to own a Creative Labs Sound Blaster (non Pro). But that was in my 486 and now is long gone...

However I think I still got some old sound card in my Pentium 1 233MHz 32 MB EDO RAM.... which is at home (North) in the garage. I'll get one of my family members to see if they can dig it out & send it down to me. Then I can create a Windows 98SE partition and use the MS-DOS 7.0 in there. You can boot out into real native MS-DOS from Windows 98SE, and I can get sound from that.. hopefully.

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Reply 7 of 9, by dhruba.bandopadhyay

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Yes, that is a very good point. I was trying to remember whether my ECS motherboard has any PCI slots left. Lets see.

http://www.ecs.com.tw/ECSWeb/Products/Product … nuID=93&LanID=9

Yes, 2 PCI slots free! Nice.

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Reply 9 of 9, by zbiggy

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Modern mainboards with no ISA slots sometimes can not emulate ISA sound on PCI soundcard. That was in my case. I had 2 mainboards: Abit NF7-S 2.0 (no ISA, nForce2 chipset) and Lucky Star K7VAT+ (1 ISA slot, KT133A chipset). SB Live! and Audigy in pure DOS with special driver works great in SB16/General Midi mode (Checked with many games e.g. Settlers2) on KT133A mainboard. When I replaced mainboard with nForce2, sound do not works. Machine still the same, only mainboard changed. So as you see mainboard has big impact on successful sound setup.