I have been watching a lot of retro builds of PCs and those videos tend to prefer 32-bit Windows 10 over 64-bit because of compatibility issues. However I have not seen a single game having this problem with either OS. Do you have any titles that work on only 32-bit Windows but not 64-bit
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Discrete_BOB_058 wrote on 2020-11-26, 19:15:I have been watching a lot of retro builds of PCs and those videos tend to prefer 32-bit Windows 10 over 64-bit because of compatibility issues. However I have not seen a single game having this problem with either OS.
As your subject line already implies, the advantage is that 32-bit Windows 10 can still run 16-bit executables.
Otherwise, the problem will come down to game that have issues with 64-bit drivers but not 32-bit drivers, in which case the graphics card hardware will probably be of more concern than the actual OS.
Jorpho wrote on 2020-11-26, 21:33:Discrete_BOB_058 wrote on 2020-11-26, 19:15:I have been watching a lot of retro builds of PCs and those videos tend to prefer 32-bit Windows 10 over 64-bit because of compatibility issues. However I have not seen a single game having this problem with either OS.
As your subject line already implies, the advantage is that 32-bit Windows 10 can still run 16-bit executables.
Otherwise, the problem will come down to game that have issues with 64-bit drivers but not 32-bit drivers, in which case the graphics card hardware will probably be of more concern than the actual OS.
I find that WineVDM has made huge developments over time and many 16 bit apps are compatible. However I have never found a game that works properly on NTVDM, many having missing sound or lacking performance most crashing.
I have never personally experienced a condition where game doesn't work on 64 bit driver but works on 32 bit driver. PhilsComputerLab, LGR have mentioned that old games work better on Nvidia hardware and 32 bit Windows but dramatically I never found any such case.
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Discrete_BOB_058 wrote on 2020-11-27, 04:54:I find that WineVDM has made huge developments over time and many 16 bit apps are compatible. However I have never found a game that works properly on NTVDM, many having missing sound or lacking performance most crashing.
WineVDM/OTVDM is really neat, but it has the same limitations as WINE.
When I ran vanilla WINE on Windows XP x86 by the help of CoLinux/AndLinux, years ago, I found out that WINE is very NT-ish.
It doesn't allow port writes, for example, which OS/2 supports out of box and NT does allow after bit of tinkering (using port.dll, porttalk, etc)..
So some Win 3.x games don't have access to the PC-Speaker, the MPU-401 or the OPL2/3.
In such a case, BoxedWine, Win3mu, DOSBox/PCEM/86Box or Virtual PC/Vbox are a good alternative.
https://www.toptensoftware.com/win3mu/
https://www.codeproject.com/articles/10263/kp … ts-under-win-nt
https://www.b-kainka.de/schnfaq.htm
https://www.edaboard.com/threads/how-to-use-p … ndows-xp.43474/
Boxedwine (Wine on multiple platforms)
Samples of PC speaker direct access:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=LM8gPlANYCg
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=EEMm0mT5DRU
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nicc1HXgyQQ
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Sierra's Power Chess is a mix of a Win32 console executable + Win32 UI executable + MS-DOS AI executable that runs only on Windows 9X/ME.
Won't run on Windows 3.11 even with Win32S, as the UI uses more of the Win32 API than Win32s allows
Won't run on DOS because of the Win32 console executable (HITMAN.EXE) and Win32 UI (PCHESS.EXE).
Won't run on NT because of the MS-DOS AI executable (WCHESS.EXE)
Won't run with NTVDM or equivalent since the Win32 console executable need full access to the MS-DOS AI executable (NTVDM won't allow that).
A really weird and unique combination.
Jo22 wrote on 2020-11-27, 09:09:
That seemed so cool when it was announced, but it looks like the author still isn't offering binaries. But that's a topic for another thread.
xcomcmdr wrote on 2020-11-27, 10:12:Sierra's Power Chess is a mix of a Win32 console executable + Win32 UI executable + MS-DOS AI executable that runs only on Wind […]
Sierra's Power Chess is a mix of a Win32 console executable + Win32 UI executable + MS-DOS AI executable that runs only on Windows 9X/ME.
Won't run on Windows 3.11 even with Win32S, as the UI uses more of the Win32 API than Win32s allows
Won't run on DOS because of the Win32 console executable (HITMAN.EXE) and Win32 UI (PCHESS.EXE).
Won't run on NT because of the MS-DOS AI executable (WCHESS.EXE)
Won't run with NTVDM or equivalent since the Win32 console executable need full access to the MS-DOS AI executable (NTVDM won't allow that).A really weird and unique combination.
Believe they made this as a platform benchmark for 3 OS.
Still it doesn't run on NT 32 bit; doesn't add any reason to why 32 bit is preferred over 64 bit. Any titles having driver issues on 64 bit drivers?
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I mentioned the weird problem with old Popcap games in your other thread.
Re: Retail Windows 95-Windows XP(DX1-8.1, Glide, WinG) games which work on Windows 7 and later [User Input is Required]
I think I first noticed that when I switched to a 64-bit system, but that's a weird edge case.
Jorpho wrote on 2020-11-29, 22:31:I mentioned the weird problem with old Popcap games in your other thread.
Re: Retail Windows 95-Windows XP(DX1-8.1, Glide, WinG) games which work on Windows 7 and later [User Input is Required]I think I first noticed that when I switched to a 64-bit system, but that's a weird edge case.
I re tried Zuma Deluxe and Bejeweled 1. Didn't encounter any scaling problem, the desktop automatically scales to 4:3 normally. Maybe its a more specific issue for a particular app you use or a old driver issue. On current hardwares I have, none of them have this problem.
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Discrete_BOB_058 wrote on 2020-11-30, 05:41:I re tried Zuma Deluxe and Bejeweled 1. Didn't encounter any scaling problem, the desktop automatically scales to 4:3 normally.
Oh geez, we had this discussion before. Yes, the game plays at 4:3 no matter what you do, but the filtering gets messed up if you don't change your desktop resolution to 4:3 before starting the game. It's easy to miss if you don't know what you're looking for.
I'll take some pictures if that's what I have to do.
