Porsche 2000 works fine for me win7 x64 Amd
pm me your email and i'll send you my exe

I've tried many exe files and even the demo. There's something else going on...

well give it a try it will take you 5mins

Both Hot Pursuit 2 and Porsche Unleashed demos work here (again, Win8.1+GTX 670).

Well they both have some performance issues I didn't bother looking into and the Porsche Unleashed demo lacked music. But they both boot and go ingame.

My tips: reset Nvidia settings to default, remove ALL non-Microsoft background software (including security software: disconnect from the internet) and create a new Windows user account and try that.

Davros wrote:

well give it a try it will take you 5mins

Your exe does the same as the original and patched ones I've tried, crashes ntdll.dll or KERNELBASE.dll

Here's the 2 errors I see most. The Exception code and Fault offset remain the same for each time each of these occurs. Note: it's pointing to Porsche.exe, which means I was using the executable from the patch I mentioned here (which restores higher res textures): http://www.zeus-software.com/forum/viewtopic. … =10&t=541#p2604

1Faulting application name: Porsche.exe, version: 0.0.0.0, time stamp: 0x393c2e8f
2Faulting module name: ntdll.dll, version: 6.3.9600.17476, time stamp: 0x54516af9
3Exception code: 0xc0000005
4Fault offset: 0x00042fae
5Faulting process ID: 0x850
6Faulting application start time: 0x01d02885ba376014
7Faulting application path: D:\Games\nfs5\Porsche.exe
8Faulting module path: C:\Windows\SYSTEM32\ntdll.dll
9Report ID: 02f60c07-9479-11e4-82c8-7824af8a9e0a
10Faulting package full name: 
11Faulting package-relative application ID: 

1Faulting application name: Porsche.exe, version: 0.0.0.0, time stamp: 0x393c2e8f
2Faulting module name: KERNELBASE.dll, version: 6.3.9600.17415, time stamp: 0x54504ade
3Exception code: 0xe06d7363
4Fault offset: 0x00014598
5Faulting process ID: 0x8f8
6Faulting application start time: 0x01d02885b1710657
7Faulting application path: D:\Games\nfs5\Porsche.exe
8Faulting module path: C:\Windows\SYSTEM32\KERNELBASE.dll
9Report ID: f67f8d6e-9478-11e4-82c8-7824af8a9e0a
10Faulting package full name: 
11Faulting package-relative application ID: 

Here's the most often faults when running the original release (via porsche.icd):

1Faulting application name: PORSCHE.ICD, version: 0.0.0.0, time stamp: 0x38c61055
2Faulting module name: DINPUT.dll, version: 6.3.9600.17415, time stamp: 0x545048f9
3Exception code: 0xc0000005
4Fault offset: 0x00012aae
5Faulting process ID: 0x1478
6Faulting application start time: 0x01d02883a7c9b513
7Faulting application path: D:\Games\nfs5\PORSCHE.ICD
8Faulting module path: C:\Windows\SYSTEM32\DINPUT.dll
9Report ID: eb239761-9476-11e4-82c8-7824af8a9e0a
10Faulting package full name: 
11Faulting package-relative application ID: 

1Faulting application name: PORSCHE.ICD, version: 0.0.0.0, time stamp: 0x38c61055
2Faulting module name: KERNELBASE.dll, version: 6.3.9600.17415, time stamp: 0x54504ade
3Exception code: 0xe06d7363
4Fault offset: 0x00014598
5Faulting process ID: 0x1908
6Faulting application start time: 0x01d0288395448ee7
7Faulting application path: D:\Games\nfs5\PORSCHE.ICD
8Faulting module path: C:\Windows\SYSTEM32\KERNELBASE.dll
9Report ID: dd073cb3-9476-11e4-82c8-7824af8a9e0a
10Faulting package full name: 
11Faulting package-relative application ID: 

Oh and to add insult to injury, the blu ray player I got with the new PC now is starting to sound like a tractor. Oh man!

p.s. every other NFS works for me, tho NFS2SE non-3Dfx version crashes, and the graphics were horribly flickery on loading screens in NFS3 and NFS4HS whilst loading, so I switched them to use 3Dfx via nGlide. Porsche crashes using nGlide too, so I'm thinking it might not be graphics card related after all...

You really should try what I wrote, it rules out a LOT of potential problems and should take you 10 minutes at most.

Also try running things as admin and disable dpi scaling in compatibility options.

I will be looking at this more thoroughly in time, as there's encouraging signs it *might* work with the right setup.

I've only been running Nvidia in default driver settings so far. I tried with both AVG and Microsoft Firewall disabled. I suspect it might be something running in the background, and as I have installed about 300+ games it could be some sort of protection driver or something else that's not happy.

I could try being off the net, I also want to try software mode (if it's even available in NFS5) and investigate disabling my soundcard (as I have Soundblaster Zx and onboard (disabled in BIOS) sound). Might even remove some sticks of RAM (although being paired I could only drop it from 16GB to 8GB).

I was considering disabling/removing the 980 and trying to use the onboard Intel graphics on my motherboard, but as the game crashes in Glide mode I'm starting to think it's not graphics related directly.

I've got a stockpile of games that crash at home on Win8.1/64bit/980/SB Zx, but are fine on work Win7/64bit/ATI Radeon HD 4600/onboard AMD sound, so might open up this debate later on. Supercar Street Challenge seems to exhibit a similar bug to NFS5; can even get into the menu in that 2/20 times, before it randomly crashes later.

One more thing: I did a few changes to my PC to help increase the lifespan of the SSD, including disabling paging on C: drive and moving a bunch of Windows items over to D: drive from C:, but I can't think that would cause these sort of random crashes to desktop, as they seem to be memory related.

Might have to try setting up a second account in Windows, though not done that before in 8.1 (or XP!). Is there any kind of Safe Mode with reduced drivers (etc) in Win8.1?

Start task manager (right click taskbar), go to Startup tab and disable everything.

Start msconfig (win+R, write msconfig), go to the services tab, check "hide all Microsoft services" then uncheck all services that are not critical and reboot.

There's a safe mode but I wouldn't recommend trying it for games.

There's no point in disabling drivers, they usually don't cause any problems. You can try disabling graphic card driver by going to "Device Manager" (just hit win and search for it), expanding display adapters and disabling yours. Windows 8 should fallback to software rendering when you do that.

Don't think there's any point in removing RAM (though you have weird issues so your RAM could be faulty, in which case removing it makes a lot of sense).

You should never disable the pagefile, so if you disabled it on C:, enable it elsewhere.

You should also never move any Windows files to another drive, there's a lot of potential problems as Windows links files in weird ways: expect Windows Update to break if you move anything Windows does not have a specific function for moving.

In think I might try a simpler route, get a hard disk from my old PC, disconnect current ones, then install my Win8.1 afresh on it, with drivers for graphics and sound from original CDs, and no Internet, that way I'd know if it's something system related or not, easily, don't you think?

IMHO, just install Vista 32-bit as the second/guest OS (WinXp not supports your chipset/videocard) and try these games in it.
Then again, Win8=*censored*.

VirtuaIceMan wrote:

In think I might try a simpler route, get a hard disk from my old PC, disconnect current ones, then install my Win8.1 afresh on it, with drivers for graphics and sound from original CDs, and no Internet, that way I'd know if it's something system related or not, easily, don't you think?

Well you could do that, but that would take more time.

Don't install graphic driver from original CDs though, definitely get updated ones from nvidia.com

Gamecollector wrote:

IMHO, just install Vista 32-bit as the second/guest OS (WinXp not supports your chipset/videocard) and try these games in it.
Then again, Win8=*censored*.

The demos he mentioned most definitely work in Windows 8.1 (haven't tested the full games though).

It's a hardware incompatibility problem (doubt it), a software setup problem or some compatibility fix I have installed that he does not (very unlikely).

It's very few games that crash for me, of the hundreds I've installed, and they're all around the year 2000-2002 era, curiously.

If I want easy I'll install a virtual XP machine with D3D support, but that's admitting defeat!

ZellSF, thanks for all the ideas. The parts of Windows I moved I did "properly" by following some online guides, so that I have things like TEMP folder, Desktop, Documents and a bunch more mapped to D: drive instead. I doubt that's causing the crashes.

I'm definitely going to look into the msconfig options, especially as I just noticed under the Boot tab > Advanced options... you can limit your number of processors and maximum memory; could rule out those things. I think it's a case of just trying piece-by-piece and seeing if anything gets there, with the XP virtual machine (most likely needed for some games anyway!) and re-installing Win8.1 on another drive to boot from as fallbacks.

Gamecollector wrote:

IMHO, just install Vista 32-bit as the second/guest OS (WinXp not supports your chipset/videocard) and try these games in it.
Then again, Win8=*censored*.

If it's working to other people even on win7 64 bit, then OS is not the problem

Imo, he should try to monitor game calls with process monitor.
The last loaded files could pinpoint something

Porsche 2000 works fine here. Win7 32 bits.

Okay it now is fixed, from removing the USB cable to my H100i water cooler. However I did also need to apply the 3.5 patch, high-res textures patch and use nGlide (and it's 3Dfx patch), as my graphics card has too many resolutions so the game shows none in-game. Looks fine though.