I’ve got a M1 Max Mac Studio.

Will be setting up a new env on it for the same vms when I arrive in Rio at home. I’m still in Spain for the next two weeks.

That M1 Max is a beast. Runs 86box just fine. Parallels is also flying (Grand Prix 4 runs fine, buttery smooth, under Windows 11 Pro aarch64 and PO - Processor Occupancy - in game is always between 7% and 15%, compared to when I last played it in a bare metal Windows install, where it was through the roof over 100%).

Here my current game list as follows (Older Windows are running under 86box. I am yet to update the UTM/QEMU machines).

Next step will be to tweak Win 98 image size and reduce it a bit more. Windows 95 is looking perfect as the goal is to emulate the same specs my old (deceased) Acer Extensa 710T had.

https://www.cpubenchmark.net/high_end_cpus.html
Apple M1 Max 10 Core 3200 MHz - 22,239
Intel Core i5-13600K - 38,530
Intel Core i5-13 has the power of M1 Ultra now
Maybe Dell could start making intel based mac desktops

robertmo wrote on 2022-11-09, 06:56:

https://www.cpubenchmark.net/high_end_cpus.html Apple M1 Max 10 Core 3200 MHz - 22,239 Intel Core i5-13600K - 38,530 Intel Core […]
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https://www.cpubenchmark.net/high_end_cpus.html
Apple M1 Max 10 Core 3200 MHz - 22,239
Intel Core i5-13600K - 38,530
Intel Core i5-13 has the power of M1 Ultra now
Maybe Dell could start making intel based mac desktops

No thanks. They'll never be Intel again 😀

All that Intel "power" is useless when Intels draws too much TDP. They're terrible.

My electricity bills massively reduced since I started using the M1s for work at home. Best investment ever.

Also, this thread is about the VMs, not about Intel vs Apple.

I think the most important part of using less electricity is about portable devices.
And I think most Mac Pro users (if not all) don't care about electricity bills.

Back on topic now Robertmo

Yes, back on topic.

Recently I've been trying some other console emulators. PPSSPP works fine on my iPhone and I can play F1 06 and FIFA 07 just like the same titles I had on my PSP.

Also tested PCXS2 and Gran Turismo 4 is running great on my M1 Max Mac Studio.

Good things are comin', also with 86box improving heaps in the recent months. They're achieving the potential PCem was supposed to achieve.

Bruninho wrote on 2022-08-29, 20:59:

Bladeforce wrote on 2022-08-29, 17:28:

Seems a bit of overkill for something standard wine runs fine

EDIT: also, Grand Prix 4 and its editors ran massively better on Parallels than through Wine. I have never had a such performance out of Grand Prix 4 even in bare metal.

Sorry for resurrecting this thread, but I have to ask how did you get GP4 to run on Parallels? I can only get to the main menu, and when I try to start a race the game crashes. I've tried everything I could think of but nothing seems to work.
I'm using Windows 11 Home on Parallels. GP4 worked just fine with Windows 10 earlier, but not with 11 for whatever reason.

(Sorry, I know next to nothing about virtual machines but I've been trying to get GP4 to work and stumbled upon this site 😁)

Mjyys wrote on 2023-03-04, 19:01:

Sorry for resurrecting this thread, but I have to ask how did you get GP4 to run on Parallels? I can only get to the main menu, […]
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Bruninho wrote on 2022-08-29, 20:59:

Bladeforce wrote on 2022-08-29, 17:28:

Seems a bit of overkill for something standard wine runs fine

EDIT: also, Grand Prix 4 and its editors ran massively better on Parallels than through Wine. I have never had a such performance out of Grand Prix 4 even in bare metal.

Sorry for resurrecting this thread, but I have to ask how did you get GP4 to run on Parallels? I can only get to the main menu, and when I try to start a race the game crashes. I've tried everything I could think of but nothing seems to work.
I'm using Windows 11 Home on Parallels. GP4 worked just fine with Windows 10 earlier, but not with 11 for whatever reason.

(Sorry, I know next to nothing about virtual machines but I've been trying to get GP4 to work and stumbled upon this site 😁)

I did nothing special, other than the fact that I am using Windows 11 Professional and Beta Channel on Insider Preview. And this is a M1 MacBook Air and a M1 Max Mac Studio, so its the ARM64 version of Windows 11 Pro on Parallels.

Did you check directx and if Windows asked for DirectPlay to be installed? It is triggered when you try to run an old game such as Grand Prix 3 (this one needs dgVoodoo and DxWnd, but GP4 needs nothing).

Also check your VM graphics settings in Parallels.

Bruninho wrote on 2023-03-12, 16:51:

I did nothing special, other than the fact that I am using Windows 11 Professional and Beta Channel on Insider Preview. And this […]
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Mjyys wrote on 2023-03-04, 19:01:

Sorry for resurrecting this thread, but I have to ask how did you get GP4 to run on Parallels? I can only get to the main menu, […]
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Bruninho wrote on 2022-08-29, 20:59:

EDIT: also, Grand Prix 4 and its editors ran massively better on Parallels than through Wine. I have never had a such performance out of Grand Prix 4 even in bare metal.

Sorry for resurrecting this thread, but I have to ask how did you get GP4 to run on Parallels? I can only get to the main menu, and when I try to start a race the game crashes. I've tried everything I could think of but nothing seems to work.
I'm using Windows 11 Home on Parallels. GP4 worked just fine with Windows 10 earlier, but not with 11 for whatever reason.

(Sorry, I know next to nothing about virtual machines but I've been trying to get GP4 to work and stumbled upon this site 😁)

I did nothing special, other than the fact that I am using Windows 11 Professional and Beta Channel on Insider Preview. And this is a M1 MacBook Air and a M1 Max Mac Studio, so its the ARM64 version of Windows 11 Pro on Parallels.

Did you check directx and if Windows asked for DirectPlay to be installed? It is triggered when you try to run an old game such as Grand Prix 3 (this one needs dgVoodoo and DxWnd, but GP4 needs nothing).

Also check your VM graphics settings in Parallels.

Thanks for the advice!
Everything with DirectX seems to be fine. I tried it with and without DirectPlay, and with all kinds of graphic settings, and it made no difference. The loading bar gets about halfway through and it always crashes at that point, no matter what I do.

Here's the GPxPatch log, I don't understand anything about this stuff but maybe someone does 😁
https://pastebin.com/sSAX9U0M

I think you might be better off creating your own thread about GP4 in a vm, chances are you'll get better views from people for this. And Parallels forums for that matter as well. I just literally installed Win 11 and GP4 and got it to run. No special stuff was made for it to run.

Now, back on topic... /start update

All my vms are up to date and running flawlessly. I wish UTM/QEMU had proper 3D accel (not the silly passthrough for glide that has been a polemic topic here on VOGONS last year) so I could drop both 86box and Parallels. Meanwhile, I found out in first hand that the emulation community is indeed toxic AF, especially if they are on discord, but anyway, not the place or the topic for that discussion.

I am looking forward to improve my Win 95/98 vms and reduce their size. As well as adding some more old DOS games like first two Duke Nukem (or should I say, "Duke Nukum") to my Win 3.11/DOS vm.

Also need to get some more time on OS 9 in UTM for some games. OS 9 was a really great macOS version and I still cannot believe I did not experience this 20 years ago! The platinum theme is sweet. Mouse speed needs to improve tho.

Also while I was moving to a new place, I converted several physical CDs to images because I couldnt bring them with me. It includes both Sound Blaster 16 and Graphics Blaster M20X CD images. I think I have a very nice collection of drivers now. And VB4/VB5 MSFN CD images!

Another project are my webpages on my Ubuntu arm64 light webserver vm running in UTM, I also need to finish them. Its due a long time ago.

/end update

Mjyys wrote on 2023-03-16, 04:36:

Thanks for the advice! Everything with DirectX seems to be fine. I tried it with and without DirectPlay, and with all kinds of g […]
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Bruninho wrote on 2023-03-12, 16:51:

I did nothing special, other than the fact that I am using Windows 11 Professional and Beta Channel on Insider Preview. And this […]
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Mjyys wrote on 2023-03-04, 19:01:

Sorry for resurrecting this thread, but I have to ask how did you get GP4 to run on Parallels? I can only get to the main menu, and when I try to start a race the game crashes. I've tried everything I could think of but nothing seems to work.
I'm using Windows 11 Home on Parallels. GP4 worked just fine with Windows 10 earlier, but not with 11 for whatever reason.

(Sorry, I know next to nothing about virtual machines but I've been trying to get GP4 to work and stumbled upon this site 😁)

I did nothing special, other than the fact that I am using Windows 11 Professional and Beta Channel on Insider Preview. And this is a M1 MacBook Air and a M1 Max Mac Studio, so its the ARM64 version of Windows 11 Pro on Parallels.

Did you check directx and if Windows asked for DirectPlay to be installed? It is triggered when you try to run an old game such as Grand Prix 3 (this one needs dgVoodoo and DxWnd, but GP4 needs nothing).

Also check your VM graphics settings in Parallels.

Thanks for the advice!
Everything with DirectX seems to be fine. I tried it with and without DirectPlay, and with all kinds of graphic settings, and it made no difference. The loading bar gets about halfway through and it always crashes at that point, no matter what I do.

Here's the GPxPatch log, I don't understand anything about this stuff but maybe someone does 😁
https://pastebin.com/sSAX9U0M

It just dawned on me, have you actually patched the gp4.exe with the no-cd version?

Bruninho wrote on 2023-03-20, 12:15:

Mjyys wrote on 2023-03-16, 04:36:

Thanks for the advice! Everything with DirectX seems to be fine. I tried it with and without DirectPlay, and with all kinds of g […]
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Bruninho wrote on 2023-03-12, 16:51:

I did nothing special, other than the fact that I am using Windows 11 Professional and Beta Channel on Insider Preview. And this is a M1 MacBook Air and a M1 Max Mac Studio, so its the ARM64 version of Windows 11 Pro on Parallels.

Did you check directx and if Windows asked for DirectPlay to be installed? It is triggered when you try to run an old game such as Grand Prix 3 (this one needs dgVoodoo and DxWnd, but GP4 needs nothing).

Also check your VM graphics settings in Parallels.

Thanks for the advice!
Everything with DirectX seems to be fine. I tried it with and without DirectPlay, and with all kinds of graphic settings, and it made no difference. The loading bar gets about halfway through and it always crashes at that point, no matter what I do.

Here's the GPxPatch log, I don't understand anything about this stuff but maybe someone does 😁
https://pastebin.com/sSAX9U0M

It just dawned on me, have you actually patched the gp4.exe with the no-cd version?

Yes, I did that. I've installed the game countless times on other computers, so I didn't think I was doing anything wrong in that regard - until I realized something.

All this time I've had the game located in the Documents folder, thinking it wouldn't make a difference and the game would find the correct path by itself. I moved it to Program Files and it works like a charm now, just like you said.

I feel a bit stupid right now 😁

lmao. Well, I save my games in a custom folder called Games since DOS days.