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First post, by candle_86

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Ok so I've finished specing out my Windows XP gaming computer, it should do quite well. This is only for DX8/9 Games, anything older will run on my Windows ME Box.

Athlon 64 X2 3800 (Dual boot options for Single and Dual Core)
Abit KN8 SLI (waiting to hear back from the seller on this one)
EVGA 8800GTS 512mb
Ultra 500W PSU
1TB Seagate HDD
DVD-RW
2gb DDR 400
Windows XP Pro SP3

What do yall think, will it handle games from about 2002-2007 easily?

Reply 1 of 17, by Jade Falcon

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Should be grate for what your doing. My 604 setup can play games of that time without a problem and it has an FX1800

I'd go for a 9800gt or gtx over the 8800 myself but the 8800gts is a good card too.

But there are two things that stand out that stand out that I have to ask about.
The PSU. is Ultra the brand? Not the best, its no DEER, but I'd look into a better one down the road. And the HDD, why 1TB? and why a Seagate?

Reply 2 of 17, by candle_86

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Jade Falcon wrote:
Should be grate for what your doing. My 604 setup can play games of that time without a problem and it has an FX1800 […]
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Should be grate for what your doing. My 604 setup can play games of that time without a problem and it has an FX1800

I'd go for a 9800gt or gtx over the 8800 myself but the 8800gts is a good card too.

But there are two things that stand out that stand out that I have to ask about.
The PSU. is Ultra the brand? Not the best, its no DEER, but I'd look into a better one down the road. And the HDD, why 1TB? and why a Seagate?

The Ultra is reliable, its been recapped professionally, and the hard drive is a spare laying around and since most of my games are steam, gog, or ISO I need storage space for them.

Also my 8800GTS 512 is quicker than an 8800GT and is the EVGA model so its running at 675/1670/1940 which isn't that far off from a stock 9800GTX @ 675/1860/1100 and the previous owner had it running at GTS 250 speeds stable

Reply 3 of 17, by Jade Falcon

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candle_86 wrote:

The Ultra is reliable, its been recapped professionally, and the hard drive is a spare laying around and since most of my games are steam, gog, or ISO I need storage space for them.

I still would not trust it. Better caps will help, but sometimes the ratings on caps are less then needed and replacing the caps with the same rated caps is not that much better. Still, you could have picked a much worse PSU.

Reply 4 of 17, by candle_86

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Jade Falcon wrote:
candle_86 wrote:

The Ultra is reliable, its been recapped professionally, and the hard drive is a spare laying around and since most of my games are steam, gog, or ISO I need storage space for them.

I still would not trust it. Better caps will help, but sometimes the ratings on caps are less then needed and replacing the caps with the same rated caps is not that much better. Still, you could have picked a much worse PSU.

It was in use for the last 6 years before being racapped without a single issue running a Core 2 Quad Q6600 @ 3.6 and an 8800GTX so i'd say its reliable 🤣.

Reply 5 of 17, by Jade Falcon

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6 Years is not bad. But some of the better of the low end units can last a long time before taking the entire computer with it.
But your PSU will likely not fail in such a way.

What type of caps were used when it was recapped?

Reply 6 of 17, by candle_86

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Jade Falcon wrote:

6 Years is not bad. But some of the better of the low end units can last a long time before taking the entire computer with it.
But your PSU will likely not fail in such a way.

What type of caps were used when it was recapped?

That I'm not sure of, I have a friend going to school for electronic repair. This PSU was recapped in that class, and load tested by the instructor, it was my buddies old PSU before upgrading. But it passed load testing and EMI testing, so I'm not concerned.

Reply 7 of 17, by nforce4max

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8800 GTS 512 isn't a bad card at all and has the full 128 shader instead of the 116 of the 8800 gt enabled, keep it clean and not let it roast it should last for another decade.

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Reply 8 of 17, by Rhuwyn

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Looks like a great system. Anything it is not capable of doing will likely run on a Modern Windows 10 machine. Anything it's "too overkill" or "too new" for will run on a well rounded Windows9x machine.

Reply 9 of 17, by candle_86

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Rhuwyn wrote:

Looks like a great system. Anything it is not capable of doing will likely run on a Modern Windows 10 machine. Anything it's "too overkill" or "too new" for will run on a well rounded Windows9x machine.

Well 9x is a fx5900xt and xp 2500 and voodoo banshee with k6-3+ 450 @ 577

Reply 10 of 17, by candle_86

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So since today I got an XFX 8800GS I'm tempted to put my 8800GTS 512 in my daughters computer and flash her 9600GSO to an 8800GS or flash my 8800GS to a 9600GSO and do SLI what do yall think

Reply 11 of 17, by PhilsComputerLab

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candle_86 wrote:

So since today I got an XFX 8800GS I'm tempted to put my 8800GTS 512 in my daughters computer and flash her 9600GSO to an 8800GS or flash my 8800GS to a 9600GSO and do SLI what do yall think

My thoughts are that SLI is cool, but you're better off with a more recent, faster, single card. For example a 7800 GTX instead of 6800 Ultra SLI, or a 8800 GTX instead of 7800 GTX SLI.

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Reply 12 of 17, by Tiger433

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PhilsComputerLab wrote:
candle_86 wrote:

So since today I got an XFX 8800GS I'm tempted to put my 8800GTS 512 in my daughters computer and flash her 9600GSO to an 8800GS or flash my 8800GS to a 9600GSO and do SLI what do yall think

My thoughts are that SLI is cool, but you're better off with a more recent, faster, single card. For example a 7800 GTX instead of 6800 Ultra SLI, or a 8800 GTX instead of 7800 GTX SLI.

Or make SLI from 7800 GTX or 8800GTX.

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Reply 13 of 17, by candle_86

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updated specs, as I got my X2 6000 back, my buddy I sold it to so I could pay the electricty bill a few months back just upgraded the system and gave me back the motherboard/ram/cpu i sold him but he kept the OS/Hard Drive/Optical/Case/PSU

So now I'm debating, go back to how it was before I had to sell it or use some other stuff

Hard Specs

X2 6000
M2N-E SLI
4gb DDR2 800
1tb Hard Drive
DVD-RW
650W Corsair

Now here is the Conumdrum

As it was

7900GTX SLI (the cool factor)
8800GS (The underdog factor)
8800GTS 512 Superclocked (The make sense factor)
GTX 465 (The Overkill Factor)

Which video setup to use

Reply 14 of 17, by agent_x007

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I would at least consider HD 5770/6770 1GB, as the overkill card (vs. GTX 460/470).

Other than that :
All 8800 series can have problems with bad solder (oven 'o' theraphy).
8800 GS would be the safest long-term bet here.

7900 GTX SLI is good idea, but remember you pay the SLI + 512MB/GPU bill here.

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Reply 15 of 17, by candle_86

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I would at least consider HD 5770/6770 1GB, as the overkill card (vs. GTX 460/470). […]
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I would at least consider HD 5770/6770 1GB, as the overkill card (vs. GTX 460/470).

Other than that :
All 8800 series can have problems with bad solder (oven 'o' theraphy).
8800 GS would be the safest long-term bet here.

7900 GTX SLI is good idea, but remember you pay the SLI + 512MB/GPU bill here.

the cards listed I currently have not in use 🤣

Along with these other PCIe cards

8600GTS
9500GT
8500GT
7950GT
7900GS
7800GTX x2
6600GT
6200 TC

x850 XT
x700 Pro
x300 SE

Reply 16 of 17, by kanecvr

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Jade Falcon wrote:
Should be grate for what your doing. My 604 setup can play games of that time without a problem and it has an FX1800 […]
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Should be grate for what your doing. My 604 setup can play games of that time without a problem and it has an FX1800

I'd go for a 9800gt or gtx over the 8800 myself but the 8800gts is a good card too.

But there are two things that stand out that stand out that I have to ask about.
The PSU. is Ultra the brand? Not the best, its no DEER, but I'd look into a better one down the road. And the HDD, why 1TB? and why a Seagate?

I settled on a GTX 280 myself. Fast enough to run Stalker @ 1920x1080 / high while still giving me the retro-feel - even if it launched only 8 years ago. I went for a pair of 7950GT cards in SLi to a 8800GTS, then an 8800GTX. I wanted to keep the GTX in there, but I'm afraid it will cook itself to death like most 8800GTX cards do. It survived so far, I don't want to push it, and they are not very common in Romania. Also I wanted the option of 1080p gaming witch the 8800 doesn't handle very well in more recent games (at least not to my liking) and I wanted the machine to run World of Tanks SD client at good framerates (60+) on low-high on 1080p for when friends come over.

To that end I'm considering replacing the 780i board with an Asus P5K64-WS P35 board I repaired a while ago since the latter supports DDR3 (witch I have a lot of), while the 780i has issues running with all 4 memory channels populated regardless of what ram I stick in it and I only have 1GB DDR2 sticks (good stuff like Corsair XMS2 and Kingston HyperX, I won't touch cheap DDR2 ram) and 4 gigs of high end DDR2 seems to cost (here) as much as new high speed DDR3. Swapping the Q6600 for a Q9550 would be nice, and I probably will as soon as I find a really cheap one.

Then again I could just get a good cheap AM3 board and use my Phenom II X6 1055T...

Reply 17 of 17, by candle_86

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kanecvr wrote:
I settled on a GTX 280 myself. Fast enough to run Stalker @ 1920x1080 / high while still giving me the retro-feel - even if it l […]
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Jade Falcon wrote:
Should be grate for what your doing. My 604 setup can play games of that time without a problem and it has an FX1800 […]
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Should be grate for what your doing. My 604 setup can play games of that time without a problem and it has an FX1800

I'd go for a 9800gt or gtx over the 8800 myself but the 8800gts is a good card too.

But there are two things that stand out that stand out that I have to ask about.
The PSU. is Ultra the brand? Not the best, its no DEER, but I'd look into a better one down the road. And the HDD, why 1TB? and why a Seagate?

I settled on a GTX 280 myself. Fast enough to run Stalker @ 1920x1080 / high while still giving me the retro-feel - even if it launched only 8 years ago. I went for a pair of 7950GT cards in SLi to a 8800GTS, then an 8800GTX. I wanted to keep the GTX in there, but I'm afraid it will cook itself to death like most 8800GTX cards do. It survived so far, I don't want to push it, and they are not very common in Romania. Also I wanted the option of 1080p gaming witch the 8800 doesn't handle very well in more recent games (at least not to my liking) and I wanted the machine to run World of Tanks SD client at good framerates (60+) on low-high on 1080p for when friends come over.

To that end I'm considering replacing the 780i board with an Asus P5K64-WS P35 board I repaired a while ago since the latter supports DDR3 (witch I have a lot of), while the 780i has issues running with all 4 memory channels populated regardless of what ram I stick in it and I only have 1GB DDR2 sticks (good stuff like Corsair XMS2 and Kingston HyperX, I won't touch cheap DDR2 ram) and 4 gigs of high end DDR2 seems to cost (here) as much as new high speed DDR3. Swapping the Q6600 for a Q9550 would be nice, and I probably will as soon as I find a really cheap one.

Then again I could just get a good cheap AM3 board and use my Phenom II X6 1055T...

Why go for a Q9550 get a Xeon E5450 and a 771 adapter