appiah4 wrote:spiroyster wrote:TheAbandonwareGuy wrote:My V3 that I got for $15 BIN mislabeled as a rage xl was mysteriously "lost" by the sellers mail carrier and never made it to the post office. I was refunded and I'm pissed about it. The seller lost nothing, they realized they sold something at a fair, non scalping value and committed fraud by not honoring the legally agreed upon price.
I'll be watching that seller and if that card shows up in another auction I'll be opening a scamming case with eBay.
At this rate, I'm never going to be able to get a V3 card for a reasonable price. Is one glide capable card without spending $50+ dollars too much to ask in this world?
🤣 No fraud has been commited. Or scam for that matter since you got your money back. Scams and Frauds tend to leave people out of money as well as time.
No one is legally obliged to sell you anything. And ebay can't do jack since they are simply a middle man. The only thing sellers not selling and buyers not buying does is waste users time and have a bad reflection on the 'middle man'. In this case ebay.
This isn't necesserily true, listing an item on eBay requires agreement to a policy and a winning bid on eBay is a contractual obligation, so not shipping the item, pretending it got lost and just offering to refund the payment simply because you did not like the going rate is indeed fraud and against eBay policy, the sales contract and probably legally an offense.
Are you telling me there are people in prison or have been persecuted for failing to send something they listed on ebay, and instead issued refunds?
Fraud = "Personal Financial Gain". "Gain" is important here. No one has gained anything in this case. Buyer was refunded (lost only time), seller did not sell the item, is left possibly slightly out of pocket due to listing fees (maybe not, depends on local ebay policy). Ebay hasn't lost anything if they get the listing fees, if they fail to secure their listing fees then they have simply lost the value of their 'services' they gave the seller for the sale (which are hyper inflated/value added anyway).
Also in-terms of 'legal'. There are two distinct duristrictions, Civil and Criminal... At most a civil law may have been broken. Doubt it though, since there has been no finanical "gain". A contract has been broken, but since neither party is left out of pocket it would not be worth phone call even ringing no-win/no-fee lawyer to persue this.
P.S Can't speak for your country. But in my country, as far as a I know, it is not illegal to NOT sell something, and no one has gone to prison or been persecuted by ebay, for failing to sell something they listed...unless they took the money and ran, then its between ebay and seller and would go through a Civil court (not Criminal court, unless it was escalated) and it is indeed fraud. But in either case, nothing to do with the buyer who has simply had their time wasted and logs on to a internet forum to unload... o.0
@AbandonwareGuy I feel for you mate, but I'm sure I'm not alone in saying we have all (mybe not all) been there o.0 call it a life experience 😉
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