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Reply 80 of 90, by theelf

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shevalier wrote on 2025-11-25, 06:53:
A more versatile option would be AM3+ with Vishera FX83x0E (E-Eco, 95W TDP). It has everything from a floppy to Windows 11 25H2 […]
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theelf wrote on 2025-11-24, 19:52:
The Serpent Rider wrote on 2025-11-24, 19:14:

Plenty of LGA1366 and LGA1156 with floppy and pata.

1366 is expensive, 1156 i dont see much more than 1155, normally are the gigabyte ones that have floppy connector

A more versatile option would be AM3+ with Vishera FX83x0E (E-Eco, 95W TDP).
It has everything from a floppy to Windows 11 25H2 compatibility (though, unfortunately, without TPM).
Among the advantages are an unlocked multiplier in both directions and the ability to disable cores.
You can emulate the performance of everyone's favorite Pentium 3 Tualatin.

At least in my country, the problem of AM3+ is too much expensive, board and CPU are double or triple intel ones

Even more old AM2 are expensive than 775

Reply 81 of 90, by shevalier

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theelf wrote on 2025-11-25, 10:45:
shevalier wrote on 2025-11-25, 06:53:
A more versatile option would be AM3+ with Vishera FX83x0E (E-Eco, 95W TDP). It has everything from a floppy to Windows 11 25H2 […]
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theelf wrote on 2025-11-24, 19:52:

1366 is expensive, 1156 i dont see much more than 1155, normally are the gigabyte ones that have floppy connector

A more versatile option would be AM3+ with Vishera FX83x0E (E-Eco, 95W TDP).
It has everything from a floppy to Windows 11 25H2 compatibility (though, unfortunately, without TPM).
Among the advantages are an unlocked multiplier in both directions and the ability to disable cores.
You can emulate the performance of everyone's favorite Pentium 3 Tualatin.

At least in my country, the problem of AM3+ is too much expensive, board and CPU are double or triple intel ones

Even more old AM2 are expensive than 775

As far as I remember, Intel 2600/3770 does not have one instruction (f16c, whatever that means) that is required in some games.
That is why they completely disappeared from the scene.
Vishera has this instruction. 😀
And also a slow (alas) but functional set of AVX.

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Reply 82 of 90, by Falcosoft

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shevalier wrote on 2025-11-25, 06:53:
A more versatile option would be AM3+ with Vishera FX83x0E (E-Eco, 95W TDP). It has everything from a floppy to Windows 11 25H2 […]
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A more versatile option would be AM3+ with Vishera FX83x0E (E-Eco, 95W TDP).
It has everything from a floppy to Windows 11 25H2 compatibility (though, unfortunately, without TPM).
Among the advantages are an unlocked multiplier in both directions and the ability to disable cores.
You can emulate the performance of everyone's favorite Pentium 3 Tualatin.

If compatibility with older (even MS-DOS) stuff is more important than compatibility with Windows 11 (and modern games requiring SSE4+ and AVX) then AM3 and Phenom II can be even more versatile.
AFAIK Phenom II CPUs have the widest range of runtime adjustable clock from 100 MHz to ~4000 MHz. It also has adjustable TSC so besides running at 100 MHz it can also report 100 MHz (unlike more modern CPUs that always report the default base clock).
At the minimum 100 MHz Phenoms can emulate everyone's favorite Pentium MMX and even do not trigger the infamous Turbo Pascal division by zero error.

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Reply 83 of 90, by shevalier

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Falcosoft wrote on 2025-11-25, 11:23:

If compatibility with older (even MS-DOS) stuff

As for DOS/Windows 98, I don't know.
7xx chipsets work perfectly with Windows XP, which is what we're talking about.
In 2010, I used a 785 chipset with Windows 64-bit.
9xx—honestly, I don't know.

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Reply 84 of 90, by Jo22

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theelf wrote on 2025-11-25, 10:45:
shevalier wrote on 2025-11-25, 06:53:
A more versatile option would be AM3+ with Vishera FX83x0E (E-Eco, 95W TDP). It has everything from a floppy to Windows 11 25H2 […]
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theelf wrote on 2025-11-24, 19:52:

1366 is expensive, 1156 i dont see much more than 1155, normally are the gigabyte ones that have floppy connector

A more versatile option would be AM3+ with Vishera FX83x0E (E-Eco, 95W TDP).
It has everything from a floppy to Windows 11 25H2 compatibility (though, unfortunately, without TPM).
Among the advantages are an unlocked multiplier in both directions and the ability to disable cores.
You can emulate the performance of everyone's favorite Pentium 3 Tualatin.

At least in my country, the problem of AM3+ is too much expensive, board and CPU are double or triple intel ones

Even more old AM2 are expensive than 775

Hi, what about AMD socket 939? I have rather positive memories of it on both 9x/XP so far. ^^

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Reply 85 of 90, by theelf

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Jo22 wrote on 2025-11-25, 13:54:
theelf wrote on 2025-11-25, 10:45:
shevalier wrote on 2025-11-25, 06:53:
A more versatile option would be AM3+ with Vishera FX83x0E (E-Eco, 95W TDP). It has everything from a floppy to Windows 11 25H2 […]
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A more versatile option would be AM3+ with Vishera FX83x0E (E-Eco, 95W TDP).
It has everything from a floppy to Windows 11 25H2 compatibility (though, unfortunately, without TPM).
Among the advantages are an unlocked multiplier in both directions and the ability to disable cores.
You can emulate the performance of everyone's favorite Pentium 3 Tualatin.

At least in my country, the problem of AM3+ is too much expensive, board and CPU are double or triple intel ones

Even more old AM2 are expensive than 775

Hi, what about AMD socket 939? I have rather positive memories of it on both 9x/XP so far. ^^

socket 939 are cheap like 775 here, for 5-15 us dollars you can get cpu+motherboard and maybe ram, like 775, similar prices

Reply 86 of 90, by Halofiber86

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cyclone3d wrote on 2025-11-24, 23:35:

Whatever you do, please use a cooler with the non-stock style mounting. The coolers with the push-pins will warp the motherboard very badly (huge bulge) after a while.

That and the stock Intel coolers are absolute trash and have been for the past many decades.

Oh, this is something I never expected! I thought the motherboard is so robust you can hardly break it even if you want to... It is a GIGABYTE GA-G41M-COMBO-GQ, and indeed I've bought some basic cooler with 4 pins, 95W.... Will do for testing, but I tend to get to love my systems with the time passing, and I definitely want it to last. Could you please kindly give me some non-stock mounting model that I can at least use for some reference? Does it have a steel panel for the opposite side of the board or something?

Right now I'm in a little shock because of this revelation... If it's not the 4 holes on the motherboard, how the cooler even is supposed to hang in there...
I am on Socket 370 with Mendocino and Tualatin, so I've got used to just clipping the cooler on the socket, and to stay away from Intel plastic-clip ones.

Hope the good ppl here can give me some advice. Please help. I'm sure you have some tested good options. I think that posting the photos of the system is too much to ask for, but I can surely Google the model and find pictures.

Reply 87 of 90, by Halofiber86

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SPBHM wrote on 2025-11-24, 15:30:

I think what makes 775 a bit pointless is how cheap lga 1155 is today, lots of cheap Sandy Bridge i3s, i5s, and in general those are much nicer than any Core 2.

I can tell you in all honesty it's about going to the physical store and buying a new motherboard in the box. The last time I've done this was around year 2000) Then many years of laptops, and more recently mostly ordering used stuff from Ebay etc... The pre-order experience was pure fun last week)) And it has the plastic around the FDD port, how cool is that!

Reply 88 of 90, by shevalier

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Halofiber86 wrote on 2025-11-26, 13:19:
cyclone3d wrote on 2025-11-24, 23:35:

Whatever you do, please use a cooler with the non-stock style mounting. The coolers with the push-pins will warp the motherboard very badly (huge bulge) after a while.

That and the stock Intel coolers are absolute trash and have been for the past many decades.

Does it have a steel panel for the opposite side of the board or something?

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Reply 90 of 90, by The Serpent Rider

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shevalier wrote on 2025-11-25, 11:03:

As far as I remember, Intel 2600/3770 does not have one instruction (f16c, whatever that means) that is required in some games.

Ivy-Bridge has it, so not a big deal, that's the same platform (1155, 2011).

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