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Reply 17360 of 40006, by TheAbandonwareGuy

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Hmm... I think I must've done something wrong when powering it up.

I put in a Trident 8900 ISA, 2x 16MB EDO SIMM, used an ATX -> AT power adapter (with -5V), connected the CPU fan's molex to the PSU. I started it up... the CPU fan starting spinning, but it began to smoke where the two metal tab things right of the CPU (in Arctic's link)....

Did I miss something obvious? I'm going to recheck the jumper settings. But I'm guessing the chances of this board living went down significantly.

By "metal tab things" you mean the voltage regulators? i.e. the three-legged components with a hole in the metal tab? If those have burned out then I don't think you will be able to use the CPU unless you replace them (3.3V for sure, though 5V CPUs may still work).

Also, I don't think that board can take EDO RAM, only FPM.

Yes, I suppose it was smoke around the VRM area. I popped the CPU out to take a look. Looks like one of the bins are black and there are 2 pins that are burnt. Not really sure what I did wrong here. Sigh.

Uh wasn't it possible to install 486s rotated wrong or something? I remember someone saying some shady eBay seller was doing that to cause boards to die as soon as people got them a while back.

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Reply 17361 of 40006, by Kreshna Aryaguna Nurzaman

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TheAbandonwareGuy wrote:

Uh wasn't it possible to install 486s rotated wrong or something? I remember someone saying some shady eBay seller was doing that to cause boards to die as soon as people got them a while back.

Do such ebay sellers do it out of pure sadism? Because I couldn't imagine such thing would ever benefit the seller financially.

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Reply 17362 of 40006, by dexvx

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I highly doubt my seller would do that. He said something along the lines of if it doesn't POST he'd refund minus shipping. Went over the jumper settings, and nothing wrong. Only wrong configuration was the EDO instead of FPM. But that shouldn't melt the VRM. Another possible issue maybe the ATX PSU + ATX -> AT converter (seller said ATX PSU having a -5V wouldn't affect it). So no clue! Sad 🙁

For consolation, this arrived today. Athlon (Thunderbird) 1GHz Slot-A. I believe it is the fastest Slot-A processor. Sniped off eBay for pretty cheap, and it just happened to have a HP Asus K7M with it. At least they POST (same PSU as my 486 attempt, minus ATX -> AT converter).

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Reply 17363 of 40006, by Cyrix200+

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Good to hear that is working. That is is high on my list : ) You have some guts though using that same PSU...

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I highly doubt my seller would do that. He said something along the lines of if it doesn't POST he'd refund minus shipping. Went […]
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I highly doubt my seller would do that. He said something along the lines of if it doesn't POST he'd refund minus shipping. Went over the jumper settings, and nothing wrong. Only wrong configuration was the EDO instead of FPM. But that shouldn't melt the VRM. Another possible issue maybe the ATX PSU + ATX -> AT converter (seller said ATX PSU having a -5V wouldn't affect it). So no clue! Sad 🙁

For consolation, this arrived today. Athlon (Thunderbird) 1GHz Slot-A. I believe it is the fastest Slot-A processor. Sniped off eBay for pretty cheap, and it just happened to have a HP Asus K7M with it. At least they POST (same PSU as my 486 attempt, minus ATX -> AT converter).

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Reply 17364 of 40006, by Deksor

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Bought this in at a garage sale :

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Some odd 286 ISA board (there was also an 8088 one)

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Coming with something to connect them with other cards I guess. I didn't manage to make it work unfortunately

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What looks to be an RTC board. Sweet ! I needed that for my 8088

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A 486, (with other few parts) that works but behaves oddly : I can't plug any VLB video card or the computer won't POST (I tried to add waitstates but had no luck) the board doesn't post either if a keyboard is not detected. Some (rare) times, it doesn't want to POST at all and other times it may crash(maybe cache related issue, I tested many rams and it didn't fix anything)

So yeah all of this are neat little thing (I didn't show all of what I got, the rest is "boring" 8 bit ISA stuff ^^) but for the 486 board, I don't really know why it refuses all of the VLB video cards I tried to put in (IO vlb cards seemed to work)

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Reply 17365 of 40006, by xplus93

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Deksor wrote:
Bought this in at a garage sale : […]
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Bought this in at a garage sale :

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Some odd 286 ISA board (there was also an 8088 one)

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Coming with something to connect them with other cards I guess. I didn't manage to make it work unfortunately

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What looks to be an RTC board. Sweet ! I needed that for my 8088

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A 486, (with other few parts) that works but behaves oddly : I can't plug any VLB video card or the computer won't POST (I tried to add waitstates but had no luck) the board doesn't post either if a keyboard is not detected. Some (rare) times, it doesn't want to POST at all and other times it may crash(maybe cache related issue, I tested many rams and it didn't fix anything)

So yeah all of this are neat little thing (I didn't show all of what I got, the rest is "boring" 8 bit ISA stuff ^^) but for the 486 board, I don't really know why it refuses all of the VLB video cards I tried to put in (IO vlb cards seemed to work)

I would assume you power it through the backplane in the second pic. Is that a keyboard connector on the end?

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Reply 17366 of 40006, by Deksor

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Looks like it is. I don't know if it's communicating in XT or AT mode. However there are 4 leds on the board but they didn't do anything when I powered the board 🙁. The POST card didn't output anything either and there was no video either. Finding informations for these might be difficult too 😒

At least I guess that if I find a board with dead "Chips" chips, I will be able to repair it easily

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Reply 17367 of 40006, by mv_cz

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Kreshna Aryaguna Nurzaman wrote:
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Finally bought (sort of.. :blush: ) a 3dfx card on a local discussion board, the seller didn't want anything for it, only a bar […]
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Finally bought (sort of.. 😊 ) a 3dfx card on a local discussion board, the seller didn't want anything for it, only a bar of chocolate, so I bought him two large ones 😁 Got a Creative 3D Blaster Banshee PCI (CT6760) with original drivers CD and with it came also SB Live! CT4670 card (although I have a modern revision CT4830 with digital out, it will come in handy).

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I've only had a Voodoo1 card back then, friend of mine had similar creative banshee card, but it was an AGP version with SGRAM and paired with celeron333 it was quite capable system. Today also came new old stock AMD K6-III+ 400 MHz which I've ordered on ebay for 20 euros. So I have some hardware to complement my socket7 systems.

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Nice. So you've just completed your entire system in a single buy, have you? Banshee is a quite capable card; in single-textured games it's faster than a Voodoo2. The 2D image quality doesn't disappoint either.

Well actually I'm not sure 😁 I planned to keep both socket7 and supersocket7 systems. The first mainly with P233MMX for dos with PCI graphics (where should banshee go) and the ss7 setup with K6-3+ and AGP graphics for 98SE and slightly modern games. But I don't have proper AGP card at the moment, either they are too slow (TNT2 M64, GF2MX - actually this card seems most appropriate now) or too fast and modern (GF4Ti4800, FX5900) for ss7 system and none of them are 3dfx cards of course.
With mobile K6's ability to clock itself down on the fly I feel like the first setup being more or less redundant, but if i put pci banshee in ss7 then it will become bottleneck 😢

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AKA trident blade xp5, also had only dx 8.1 support.

The XP5 was sold under the "XGI" brand if my memory serves well, but it is more or less rebranded Trident XP4 card. Because in my Toshiba centrino laptop I have XP4m32 card and I have managed to modify XP5 graphics driver from dell to work on my XP4 card. I needed to try some newer revision of drivers for my chip, because it has somewhat slow scrolling in modern windows apps in WinXP. And since XP4 drivers I have are already the most recent, I used the XP5 and they work.
After all the XP4 is not that bad for time of it's release. Sure my laptop could have obligatory Intels's extreme graphics in form of 855GM chipset, but trident is faster, power efficient and brings directx 8.1 support. In 3Dmark2001SE performance is good and the card was clearly optimized to run it well, It reaches nearly the score similar to Mobility Radeon9000. In games it is not that good, fps drops here and there, but the picture quality is OK, I had never problem with trident cards regarding to picture quality (same story was with Trident Cyberblade e4-128 card I had in laptop too).

So maybe VolariV3 = XP5 = XP4 which gives me idea to try volari drivers 😊 Shame those XP4/5 cards are not supported in Windows Vista/7 😢

Reply 17368 of 40006, by appiah4

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Not hardware but this made me very happy when it came in the mail (although the box was crushed due to poor packaging, grr..)

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Reply 17369 of 40006, by Carlos S. M.

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I ordered an ASUS A7S333 for 17 € shipped, one of the few SiS 745 Socket 462 motherboards which came on the market

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Reply 17370 of 40006, by kixs

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appiah4 wrote:
Not hardware but this made me very happy when it came in the mail (although the box was crushed due to poor packaging, grr..) […]
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Not hardware but this made me very happy when it came in the mail (although the box was crushed due to poor packaging, grr..)

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I wish they would fill the box with some crumpled paper to save the box from crushing. Most don't even if I ask them to 🙁

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Reply 17371 of 40006, by Kreshna Aryaguna Nurzaman

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Carlos S. M. wrote:

I ordered an ASUS A7S333 for 17 € shipped, one of the few SiS 745 Socket 462 motherboards which came on the market

A7S333 or A7V333? Never heard about the former, but the latter is the fastest mobo with AGP 2x support --an ideal mobo for those who wish to run their Voodoo5 5500 AGP with the fastest CPU possible.

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Reply 17372 of 40006, by Carlos S. M.

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Kreshna Aryaguna Nurzaman wrote:
Carlos S. M. wrote:

I ordered an ASUS A7S333 for 17 € shipped, one of the few SiS 745 Socket 462 motherboards which came on the market

A7S333 or A7V333? Never heard about the former, but the latter is the fastest mobo with AGP 2x support --an ideal mobo for those who wish to run their Voodoo5 5500 AGP with the fastest CPU possible.

is actually A7S333 which is based on the SiS 745, the ASUS A7V333 uses the VIA KT333 rev CD

A manual for the ASUS A7S333 exists on the internet: http://www.tekwind.co.jp/backup_uc/support/do … /a/a7s333_e.pdf

About KT333 motherboards, i have an MSI KT3 Ultra2 (CE) with the upgraded KT333 CE revision and FSB166 support while keeping the AGP 2x support, the BIOS has official support for Bartons

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Reply 17373 of 40006, by mv_cz

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Carlos S. M. wrote:

I ordered an ASUS A7S333 for 17 € shipped, one of the few SiS 745 Socket 462 motherboards which came on the market

and it has 4 mounting holes for installing a serious cooler, woo-hoo 😎

Reply 17375 of 40006, by dexvx

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Does A7V333 Rev 2.0 have the universal AGP? I would assume so since Arctic seems to be running a 3.3V Voodoo5 5500 AGP off it. I always thought A7V333 Rev 2.0 was 1.5V only.

Reply 17376 of 40006, by chose007

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@dexvx: nice Athlon 1GHz 😁

I got one too, so can finish collecting slot A platform.

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and other schrott

some additional medical 3D cards

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CHIPS ISA + Savage 2000

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3dfx

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fastest DDR2

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and DDR1 550

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Reply 17377 of 40006, by Gamecollector

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Drivers cd version 3.x?

Asus P4P800 SE/Pentium4 3.2E/2 Gb DDR400B,
Radeon HD3850 Agp (Sapphire), Catalyst 14.4 (XpProSp3).
Voodoo2 12 MB SLI, Win2k drivers 1.02.00 (XpProSp3).

Reply 17379 of 40006, by dexvx

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@dexvx: nice Athlon 1GHz 😁

I got one too, so can finish collecting slot A platform.

Nice, unfortunately, since mine was HP OEM, it only has a somewhat large heatsink. Hard to install a fan because it will get very close to the memory sockets.

I think the classic Athlon (Orion core) 1GHz is much rarer. I was at a recycler and saw an Athlon 700 MHz (Pluto, fastest of that core). May pick it up if it's still there next time.