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Reply 19640 of 39962, by SW-SSG

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60GB Maxtor Hard drive (new):

If various reviews/benchmarks of the day were correct, this is supposed to be a really fast HDD (Maxtor D740X-6L). They were apparently designed by Quantum, which would explain why it physically looks more like a Fireball.

Reply 19641 of 39962, by meljor

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I meant finding out the speed by the numbers only. Using actual hardware and software i found a way: hwinfo32
It gives the actual s-spec number(s) for the cpu, that way you can be certain what speed it is. Otherwise it is very difficult as for example my 750mhz runs also fine at 7,5x133 (1ghz).

Different speed CPUs in the same family use the same die, with minor tweaks to set the stock speed. If you overclock (or underclock) the processor, hwinfo32 will give s-spec numbers that correspond to the speed you are running at. So it is no guarantee that it is accurate unless your board auto detects the correct speed. There are no programming routines to detect what speed it should be running at. As such, the s-specs returned by the app cannot be guaranteed to be correct.

For example, if you run your 750MHz processor at 133 MHz fsb instead of 100, hwinfo32 will give you the s-specs for a 1 GHz processor.

No... i tried with 3 different cpu's: a 600 (6x100) a 800 (6x133) and a 1ghz (7,5x133), all coppermine's.

Nomatter what speed i set the fsb/cpu i always get the same (right) Sspec number from hwinfo32. I can run the 600@800mhz and 600@400mhz but it keeps giving me numbers for a 600 cpu.
Same with the 1ghz @500, @750 and @1ghz and i know for a fact it really is a 1ghz as this one has the original plastic casing.

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Reply 19642 of 39962, by dexvx

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Getting some boxed stuffs!

Voodoo 3 3500 AGP with accessories... and even the free Unreal Tournament mail-in offer. That little TV box is a lot larger than I expected. Seems to be very awkward.

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Canopus Spectra 5400 Premium Edition (Nvidia Riva TNT2 Ultra).

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Reply 19643 of 39962, by BitWrangler

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Wooo, careful of that Spectra, lots of lightning in it apparently.

2017: Basement full of ancient PC stuff, starting to go through it. 2021: Still starting, heh, many setbacks. So what's this BitWrangler guy's deal ??? >>> Taming the pile, specs to target?

Reply 19644 of 39962, by Gered

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Sad day for me today. The particular style AT case I had been looking for was posted up on eBay a couple weeks ago and I bought it even though it was (IMHO) overpriced. It arrived today:

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There might be more bits of broken plastic I missed. Contacted seller to see what they have to say. I got two emails after the purchase from them stressing to not leave bad feedback or open an eBay case and to contact them first, so I do hope they are reasonable here.

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Reply 19645 of 39962, by BitWrangler

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Ouch Gered, that's a bit pooched. I have seen plenty of those in Ontario though so don't give up. Just keep plugging at kijiji, craigslist, letgo etc.

2017: Basement full of ancient PC stuff, starting to go through it. 2021: Still starting, heh, many setbacks. So what's this BitWrangler guy's deal ??? >>> Taming the pile, specs to target?

Reply 19646 of 39962, by Pabloz

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Gered wrote:
Sad day for me today. The particular style AT case I had been looking for was posted up on eBay a couple weeks ago and I bought […]
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Sad day for me today. The particular style AT case I had been looking for was posted up on eBay a couple weeks ago and I bought it even though it was (IMHO) overpriced. It arrived today:

dbZ0ZFut.jpg qG0Pr8ht.jpg sxlDUkOt.jpg 0FGi2SVt.jpg

🙁

There might be more bits of broken plastic I missed. Contacted seller to see what they have to say. I got two emails after the purchase from them stressing to not leave bad feedback or open an eBay case and to contact them first, so I do hope they are reasonable here.

cheap china plastic
that case is very common clone case low budget pc from the 90s

you can see how cheap it is that the turbo and reset buttons on the back are glued with silicone.

there are some nice quality 90s pc cases i have seen on this forum that are just lovely. but that one you paid for looks nice but its crap bad quality plastic

i have one like yours, and it is so bad quality that it breaks on the corners easly

Reply 19647 of 39962, by Gered

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Well, the seller responded fairly quickly and was quite apologetic. They had another case of the exact same style, though maybe a tad bit more yellowed. He's willing to send it to me for free due to the damage to this one, and is going to "do everything [they] can to pack it better this time."

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cheap china plastic that case is very common clone case low budget pc from the 90s […]
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cheap china plastic
that case is very common clone case low budget pc from the 90s

you can see how cheap it is that the turbo and reset buttons on the back are glued with silicone.

there are some nice quality 90s pc cases i have seen on this forum that are just lovely. but that one you paid for looks nice but its crap bad quality plastic

i have one like yours, and it is so bad quality that it breaks on the corners easly

Certainly it's not the greatest quality case out there, I cannot deny that, haha. 😀 I have another case that I'm using with my 486 PC right now, so it's not the worst thing in the world that this broke. But I really wanted this style case because it's the same as the one my family had in the early 90's. /shrug

486DX2-66/16MB/S3 Trio32 VLB/SBPro2/GUS
P233 MMX/64MB/Voodoo2/Matrox/YMF719/GUS CD3
Duron 800/256MB/Savage4 Pro/SBLive (IN PROGRESS)
Toshiba 430CDT

Reply 19648 of 39962, by JidaiGeki

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Nice outcome though to get a second one, was sad to see the damage as I too had one of these as my first PC. Funny how a hunk of metal and plastic can make us so sentimental 🤣

Reply 19649 of 39962, by RaYaNt3

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Hello everyone,

I'd like to "share" some pics about my last "encounters" with retro old bargain hardware...

Last year I was digging in local 2nd hand webs and bought this stuff...

Supermicro dual slot1 P6DBU + 2x PIII 700mhz/100fsb + 768mb of ECC ram...

The total cost was 10€, and the mobo is working very well with win98, win2000 and windows XP... And also a voodoo 3 2000.

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I'd really like to upgrade the cpus but I can't find 1000mhz Pentium's in slot 1...

Reply 19650 of 39962, by Cyrix200+

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RaYaNt3 wrote:
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Hello everyone,

I'd like to "share" some pics about my last "encounters" with retro old bargain hardware...

Last year I was digging in local 2nd hand webs and bought this stuff...

Supermicro dual slot1 P6DBU + 2x PIII 700mhz/100fsb + 768mb of ECC ram...

The total cost was 10€, and the mobo is working very well with win98, win2000 and windows XP... And also a voodoo 3 2000.

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I'd really like to upgrade the cpus but I can't find 1000mhz Pentium's in slot 1...

That is a nice board! There are 'slotkets' that support SMP, but finding the 100MHz FSB Pentium III 1GHz is going to be hard in both Socket 370 and Slot 1 variants.

ps. you linked the original size Imgur links, that makes it hard to view them on the forum.

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Reply 19651 of 39962, by MMaximus

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Bought a pair of "New Old Stock" Roland MA-8 Monitor Speakers - I've been looking for these for a while and am happy to have found a pair on ebay for a reasonable price.

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Reply 19653 of 39962, by BitWrangler

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Pabloz wrote:
cheap china plastic that case is very common clone case low budget pc from the 90s […]
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Gered wrote:
Sad day for me today. The particular style AT case I had been looking for was posted up on eBay a couple weeks ago and I bought […]
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Sad day for me today. The particular style AT case I had been looking for was posted up on eBay a couple weeks ago and I bought it even though it was (IMHO) overpriced. It arrived today:

dbZ0ZFut.jpg qG0Pr8ht.jpg sxlDUkOt.jpg 0FGi2SVt.jpg

🙁

There might be more bits of broken plastic I missed. Contacted seller to see what they have to say. I got two emails after the purchase from them stressing to not leave bad feedback or open an eBay case and to contact them first, so I do hope they are reasonable here.

cheap china plastic
that case is very common clone case low budget pc from the 90s

you can see how cheap it is that the turbo and reset buttons on the back are glued with silicone.

there are some nice quality 90s pc cases i have seen on this forum that are just lovely. but that one you paid for looks nice but its crap bad quality plastic

i have one like yours, and it is so bad quality that it breaks on the corners easly

Come to think of it. I have seen two versions of that case. I don't know it they are an early and late version by the same factory, or an original and copy. Anway, the first one is heavy, the plastic is thick and the grille area is actually slotted, plastic almost overlaps so it's not that obvious. The second one is lighter the plastic flimsier and has a simplified grille moulding that's not a grille, not many of those came with speed displays in. I have seen 386es in them but they seemed most common for the 486 era.

2017: Basement full of ancient PC stuff, starting to go through it. 2021: Still starting, heh, many setbacks. So what's this BitWrangler guy's deal ??? >>> Taming the pile, specs to target?

Reply 19654 of 39962, by appiah4

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I wish a producer would make a limited run of quality AT/ATX hybrid cases.

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Reply 19655 of 39962, by JidaiGeki

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BitWrangler wrote:
Pabloz wrote:
cheap china plastic that case is very common clone case low budget pc from the 90s […]
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Gered wrote:
Sad day for me today. The particular style AT case I had been looking for was posted up on eBay a couple weeks ago and I bought […]
Show full quote

Sad day for me today. The particular style AT case I had been looking for was posted up on eBay a couple weeks ago and I bought it even though it was (IMHO) overpriced. It arrived today:

<snip>
🙁

There might be more bits of broken plastic I missed. Contacted seller to see what they have to say. I got two emails after the purchase from them stressing to not leave bad feedback or open an eBay case and to contact them first, so I do hope they are reasonable here.

cheap china plastic
that case is very common clone case low budget pc from the 90s

you can see how cheap it is that the turbo and reset buttons on the back are glued with silicone.

there are some nice quality 90s pc cases i have seen on this forum that are just lovely. but that one you paid for looks nice but its crap bad quality plastic

i have one like yours, and it is so bad quality that it breaks on the corners easly

Come to think of it. I have seen two versions of that case. I don't know it they are an early and late version by the same factory, or an original and copy. Anway, the first one is heavy, the plastic is thick and the grille area is actually slotted, plastic almost overlaps so it's not that obvious. The second one is lighter the plastic flimsier and has a simplified grille moulding that's not a grille, not many of those came with speed displays in. I have seen 386es in them but they seemed most common for the 486 era.

I think I know what you mean. My first PC with that styling was a 386SX, but it was a fairly light case, and came across as a very bargain basement clone machine. The power switch was a large beige push button, whereas the majority of this style have flip switches. The case I have now (like Gered's) feels sturdier, including the face plate. There must have been a few variations on a theme as well, as I've seen one recently with the grille set off to the right under the power switch.

Reply 19656 of 39962, by oeuvre

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I need to stop buying older laptops. https://www.ebay.com/itm/Dell-Latitude-D800-L … ve/272828839003

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Reply 19657 of 39962, by debs3759

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appiah4 wrote:

I wish a producer would make a limited run of quality AT/ATX hybrid cases.

The only difference between the two is that ATX boards have a bigger cut-out and AT cases use a different switch. An AT board will fit an ATX case, but would benefit from an AT backplate.

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Reply 19658 of 39962, by appiah4

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debs3759 wrote:
appiah4 wrote:

I wish a producer would make a limited run of quality AT/ATX hybrid cases.

The only difference between the two is that ATX boards have a bigger cut-out and AT cases use a different switch. An AT board will fit an ATX case, but would benefit from an AT backplate.

All I ask for is an AT backplate in a retro styled case, and the option to replace the power button with an AT switch. Too much for anyone to do? 🙁

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Reply 19659 of 39962, by Cyrix200+

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appiah4 wrote:
debs3759 wrote:
appiah4 wrote:

I wish a producer would make a limited run of quality AT/ATX hybrid cases.

The only difference between the two is that ATX boards have a bigger cut-out and AT cases use a different switch. An AT board will fit an ATX case, but would benefit from an AT backplate.

All I ask for is an AT backplate in a retro styled case, and the option to replace the power button with an AT switch. Too much for anyone to do? 🙁

That would be great. I guess they would be really expensive. You would need to sell thousands (?) to get to a reasonable price I think.

Edit: As long as I have storage I will buy all AT cases in reasonable shape and with a reasonable price. I have too many now...

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