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Bought these (retro) hardware today

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Reply 24380 of 39964, by SW-SSG

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xjas wrote:

... This X24 came up locally and it'll do nicely. ...

Very nice... I have thought of picking up one of these older X-series in the past, but having RAM soldered to the MB that can't be replaced (not without mad soldering skills, anyway) if it fails has always made me nervous.

Reply 24381 of 39964, by yawetaG

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Cloudschatze wrote:
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roland had a kit in 1988 with the mt32 - it was not cheap 995 usd (in 1988 - now it is 2092.90 usd!). an article from the pc mag from september of 1988.

"List Price"

Sierra On-Line began selling the same MT-32/MPU bundle (also in September, 1988) for $550 USD. Contextually speaking, and assuming you were in the market, this was a bargain without equal.

"Netherlands", for the original sale point 😉 . We never had the massive discounts that were common in the States. So if it was close to 1000 dollars list price in the US, the price in the Netherlands would have been close to 2000 Dutch Guilders (and not much lower than that - maybe 1800), but probably higher because the dollar was worth more back then and there always is some sort of "overseas mark-up" for items made outside Europe by non-European manufacturers. Also, the US price is excluding sales tax, which is always added first around here (+17.5% back then). So sales price in shops would probably be around 2500 Dutch Guilders, if not more.

And since we're on the topic of MIDI stuff,. my latest buy is Yamaha XG Works ST (Japan-only, supposedly loads in English despite that), aka the last XG Works, and the only version based on Yamaha SOL/SOL2. 😎

Reply 24382 of 39964, by Cloudschatze

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yawetaG wrote:
Cloudschatze wrote:
arncht wrote:

roland had a kit in 1988 with the mt32 - it was not cheap 995 usd (in 1988 - now it is 2092.90 usd!). an article from the pc mag from september of 1988.

"List Price"

Sierra On-Line began selling the same MT-32/MPU bundle (also in September, 1988) for $550 USD. Contextually speaking, and assuming you were in the market, this was a bargain without equal.

"Netherlands", for the original sale point 😉 .

Right, but arncht didn't provide that sales figure; just the $995 list price from the American publication. Regardless, I suspect the MT-32 was the least-expensive multi-timbral synthesizer of its caliber in the Netherlands back then as well. 😀

Reply 24383 of 39964, by derSammler

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This one with some nice hardware inside:

PC Partner socket 7 mainboard
Cyrix 6x86 PR150-GP
8x CD-ROM
Quantum Bigfoot hard disk, 2.5 GB
ELSA Winner 1000 Trio64V+
Sound Blaster AWE32 CT3900 😀 😀

Reply 24386 of 39964, by brostenen

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A floppy drive with dip-switches, to set compatibility between computer platforms.
This enables me to use it natively, on machines such as Atari-ST, Amiga and of course the usual PC.
(I might hunt for more of these)

Don't eat stuff off a 15 year old never cleaned cpu cooler.
Those cakes make you sick....

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Reply 24390 of 39964, by Murugan

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I must say that I was quite surprised when I saw it yesterday. The seller didn't send me any pics before, just a message that he got an old system and he was going to scrap it if I didn't want it.
Hell no!!!!
First time I ever had a case this big 😀
But I still want a full tower in the future!
Parts i've seen so far: S3 Virge or Virge DX,..., SB Pro 2, pci card with extra parallel port. CPU is an 6X86 but I need to remove the fan again. Clipped it on yesterday without looking at the exact type.
I still need to test it too

IMHO this case really wants a 386 or 486 no?

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My retro collection: too much...

Reply 24391 of 39964, by Eleanor1967

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Murugan wrote:
I must say that I was quite surprised when I saw yesterday. The seller didn't send me any pics before, just a message that he go […]
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I must say that I was quite surprised when I saw yesterday. The seller didn't send me any pics before, just a message that he got an old system and he was going to scrap it if I didn't want it.
Hell no!!!!
First time I ever had a case this big 😀
But I still want a full tower in the future!
Parts i've seen so far: S3 Virge or Virge DX,..., SB Pro 2, pci card with extra parallel port. CPU is an 6X86 but I need to remove the fan again. Clipped it on yesterday without looking at the exact type.
I still need to test it though

IMHO this case really wants a 386 or 486 no?

Thats a really good deal you got there. This case screams 486 to me, too. Or anything which doesn't go over 2 digits in MHz 😀

Reply 24394 of 39964, by Murugan

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Turbo -> wrote:

^^^^ That is a very nice case you got there Murugan. It would be a shame if it went to scrap.

Thanks! That's what I thought too. Probably will save some more in the years to come if he keeps getting this stuff.

After the test, I am going to put it away and when all my other projects are done,I'll give this baby a proper inside 😀

My retro collection: too much...

Reply 24395 of 39964, by cyclone3d

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Some stuff I have picked up lately.

This is the latest. It has not arrived yet. Have no real idea what the internals are. The sound card looks like it may be an Opti based Card Xpert branded card.
I needed one more AT case and this one will fit the bill nicely.

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Had been looking for one of these for quite a while at a good price. When this popped up I snagged it.

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Had also been looking to get one of these. One finally popped up for an OK price.

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Yamaha YMF modified setupds and drivers
Yamaha XG resource repository - updated November 27, 2018
Yamaha YMF7x4 Guide
AW744L II - YMF744 - AOpen Cobra Sound Card - Install SB-Link Header
Epstein didn't kill himself

Reply 24396 of 39964, by Intel486dx33

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Had also been looking to get one of these. One finally popped up for an OK price. Backpack cdrom

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I have one of these I been wanting to use for my old laptops that don't have a cdrom.
How does it work?
Can you setup a DOS boot disk or Windows 95/98 boot disk to load the driver for this device so you can boot from it with a boot disk ?

Reply 24397 of 39964, by Cyrix200+

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I bought this cool machine from the first owner. Needs a good cleaning, and unfortunately the original FDD isn't there any more, but it still works just fine! Look forward to 'restoring' it!

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Ooooh, cool:

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Needs some TLC. Battery has not leaked

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There were some cool Keen Shareware floppies included:

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Reply 24398 of 39964, by cyclone3d

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Intel486dx33 wrote:
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cyclone3d wrote:

Had also been looking to get one of these. One finally popped up for an OK price. Backpack cdrom

s-l1600.jpg

I have one of these I been wanting to use for my old laptops that don't have a cdrom.
How does it work?
Can you setup a DOS boot disk or Windows 95/98 boot disk to load the driver for this device so you can boot from it with a boot disk ?

It has a special driver for use within pure DOS mode.
You boot to DOS, then run a LOADCD.BAT which loads the drivers and MSCDEX so you can use it in DOS before running the full install for it.

But you can't boot directly from the drive.

The reason I wanted this one is because it has a built in 16-bit sound card. Pretty sure it is ESS-1688 based which also means it has ESFM.
Sound is not usable from pure DOS, but still a good solution for running DOS games from within Windows.

There are also older models which had a sound card option. The sound driver is the same for all.

Yamaha YMF modified setupds and drivers
Yamaha XG resource repository - updated November 27, 2018
Yamaha YMF7x4 Guide
AW744L II - YMF744 - AOpen Cobra Sound Card - Install SB-Link Header
Epstein didn't kill himself

Reply 24399 of 39964, by dionb

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Murugan wrote:
Turbo -> wrote:

^^^^ That is a very nice case you got there Murugan. It would be a shame if it went to scrap.

Thanks! That's what I thought too. Probably will save some more in the years to come if he keeps getting this stuff.

After the test, I am going to put it away and when all my other projects are done,I'll give this baby a proper inside 😀

Hey, don't knock the inside you got there...

That rev 3.10 P55T2P4 is probably pretty much the ultimate Intel-chipset So7 board; with the extra tagRAM it can cache 512MB, with its tight HX EDO timings it can outperform a VX with SDRAM and come close to a TX, it can run K6+ CPUs (with (beta) BIOS support) etc.

Admittedly it would be better off in a late 1990s case rather than this one, but that's something worth the effort 😀