Wes1262 wrote on 2024-09-11, 02:16:

Creative/Msi TI4600. 30 eur. Artifacting most of the times. Sometimes starts without artifacts, then crashes and reboots. Can lo […]
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Creative/Msi TI4600. 30 eur. Artifacting most of the times.
Sometimes starts without artifacts, then crashes and reboots.
Can load windows despite the artifacts, but crashes pretty quickly.
Has an Abit Siluro bios for some reason, but it's clearly a MSI. Could be the reason it doesn't work.
I have no idea what fix I should attempt if flashing the original bios wont work!

That's something I'm also fighting! I now have an FX5600 and a Ti4200 that are both artifacting and give errors in MATS. There's a link for that in this thread: Re: GeForce3 - mixing memory modules
In my case it's a bad data line on the corner of both BGA chips so a reflow should help, haven't worked up the courage to that yet to either of them...

I reconstituted the whitebunny nvidia ROM archive here if you want to see if the original BIOS helps: https://archive.org/details/whitebunny-video-bios-roms

Thermalwrong wrote on 2024-09-03, 01:16:

Omg what are the odds, I just 'bought' a Honeywell thing too - except it's yet another pizza box computer that I don't really so […]
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Locutus wrote on 2024-09-02, 23:03:

Finally, found the "weirdo" mouse 😉

Omg what are the odds, I just 'bought' a Honeywell thing too - except it's yet another pizza box computer that I don't really so much need but...

retroweb is such an amazing resource at this point, there's no info for this 'honeywell bull' computer online but the seller posted inside pictures so I can see it looks like a Pentium MMX, LPX motherboard with a via chipset and I was able to determine it's a FIC PA-2003:

I'm not sure why they're calling it a honeywell actually, it's only got a bull logo on it but maybe there's a label on it somewhere that wasn't pictured. It's an interesting and pretty small LPX system but why buy another pizza box? It wasn't exactly cheap but I was the only bidder and there's something special hiding inside 😁

I recognised it straight away from the double position memory pads, really hoping this goes through and doesn't get damaged in the post...

BTW, doesn't that mouse need a special mousepad to work?

Today I got the computer and it got here in great shape 😀 this thing is a real mid 90s time capsule and the powervr card is the Videologic Apocalypse 3Dx or PCX2 which is awesome! I need to plug it into a suitable machine, I don't think this Pentium 166 MMX is the right fit. Also I was right and it is the FIC PAC-2003 motherboard - how do I sign up on the retroweb? I have hi res pictures of this board and the BIOS image (which I think is the same as the latest version) that I'd like to share

From the same seller I got a Gigabyte GA-7IXE4 which imo is a board worth saving since it's got AGP/PCI/ISA but all the capacitors are bad. They're weird G-Luxon 6.3v 1200uF caps on the main VRM, then these really wtf 25v 330uf capacitors on *all* the smaller caps, those surely can't have more than 5v on them so why are they 25v??? I want to put 16v or less caps in their place because 330uF seems low for some of those rails and some old posts on badcaps suggest putting 16v 1000uF caps there instead
I pulled all the 6.3v 1200uF caps on the VRM area and some are bad which are visibly raised but some are testing as 4000uF? That's not right is it?
I was trying these 16v 1000uF caps that I got cheap a while back but there's a reason they were so cheap, they are *huge* and don't fit anything, so I'll probably put some caps to match the original spec on there.
IDK if it's technique, the newer TS101 iron or thermal reliefs on this Gigabyte mainboard but desoldering the caps and clearing the holes was a breeze, my abit boards were hell to prep for recapping in comparison.

Need to put this PowerVR PCX2 into something, I never thought I'd find one. It looks like it has some cool unique games.

Oh I need to try with this MATS! Thanks for the tip!

Thermalwrong wrote on 2024-09-11, 03:22:

That's something I'm also fighting! I now have an FX5600 and a Ti4200 that are both artifacting and give errors in MATS. There's […]
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Wes1262 wrote on 2024-09-11, 02:16:

Creative/Msi TI4600. 30 eur. Artifacting most of the times. Sometimes starts without artifacts, then crashes and reboots. Can lo […]
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Creative/Msi TI4600. 30 eur. Artifacting most of the times.
Sometimes starts without artifacts, then crashes and reboots.
Can load windows despite the artifacts, but crashes pretty quickly.
Has an Abit Siluro bios for some reason, but it's clearly a MSI. Could be the reason it doesn't work.
I have no idea what fix I should attempt if flashing the original bios wont work!

That's something I'm also fighting! I now have an FX5600 and a Ti4200 that are both artifacting and give errors in MATS. There's a link for that in this thread: Re: GeForce3 - mixing memory modules
In my case it's a bad data line on the corner of both BGA chips so a reflow should help, haven't worked up the courage to that yet to either of them...

I reconstituted the whitebunny nvidia ROM archive here if you want to see if the original BIOS helps: https://archive.org/details/whitebunny-video-bios-roms

Thermalwrong wrote on 2024-09-03, 01:16:

Omg what are the odds, I just 'bought' a Honeywell thing too - except it's yet another pizza box computer that I don't really so […]
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Locutus wrote on 2024-09-02, 23:03:

Finally, found the "weirdo" mouse 😉

Omg what are the odds, I just 'bought' a Honeywell thing too - except it's yet another pizza box computer that I don't really so much need but...

retroweb is such an amazing resource at this point, there's no info for this 'honeywell bull' computer online but the seller posted inside pictures so I can see it looks like a Pentium MMX, LPX motherboard with a via chipset and I was able to determine it's a FIC PA-2003:

I'm not sure why they're calling it a honeywell actually, it's only got a bull logo on it but maybe there's a label on it somewhere that wasn't pictured. It's an interesting and pretty small LPX system but why buy another pizza box? It wasn't exactly cheap but I was the only bidder and there's something special hiding inside 😁

I recognised it straight away from the double position memory pads, really hoping this goes through and doesn't get damaged in the post...

BTW, doesn't that mouse need a special mousepad to work?

Today I got the computer and it got here in great shape 😀 this thing is a real mid 90s time capsule and the powervr card is the Videologic Apocalypse 3Dx or PCX2 which is awesome! I need to plug it into a suitable machine, I don't think this Pentium 166 MMX is the right fit. Also I was right and it is the FIC PAC-2003 motherboard - how do I sign up on the retroweb? I have hi res pictures of this board and the BIOS image (which I think is the same as the latest version) that I'd like to share

From the same seller I got a Gigabyte GA-7IXE4 which imo is a board worth saving since it's got AGP/PCI/ISA but all the capacitors are bad. They're weird G-Luxon 6.3v 1200uF caps on the main VRM, then these really wtf 25v 330uf capacitors on *all* the smaller caps, those surely can't have more than 5v on them so why are they 25v??? I want to put 16v or less caps in their place because 330uF seems low for some of those rails and some old posts on badcaps suggest putting 16v 1000uF caps there instead
I pulled all the 6.3v 1200uF caps on the VRM area and some are bad which are visibly raised but some are testing as 4000uF? That's not right is it?
I was trying these 16v 1000uF caps that I got cheap a while back but there's a reason they were so cheap, they are *huge* and don't fit anything, so I'll probably put some caps to match the original spec on there.
IDK if it's technique, the newer TS101 iron or thermal reliefs on this Gigabyte mainboard but desoldering the caps and clearing the holes was a breeze, my abit boards were hell to prep for recapping in comparison.

Need to put this PowerVR PCX2 into something, I never thought I'd find one. It looks like it has some cool unique games.

They are some weird reading for sure .. if in doubt replace them all, nuke and pave its the only way to be sure.

A lot of stuff is gonna arrive here one by one over the next period. I already got the CPUs I ordered:

- Pluto Athlon 700 - had to discard its fans as they were fairly duds 🙁
- Duron 1300
- ceramic MMX 200MHz
- Athlon 1133 AXIA stepping

I hope to get the K7 Pro and T-Bird 700MHz by tomorrow, as well as a pair of Voodoo Banshees off a scrapper that sells 3dfx cards online over local classifieds - same guy who sold me the MSi 6168 I had to fix.

Finally, the ABIT KR7A w/ the funny issue will be shipped by today, according to the seller. I'm still bettin' on dried Teapo caps.

I'm also debating whether to pull the trigger on a Gigabyte 7DXE+ - the one thing that puts me off is the relatively absurd limitations AMD 761 has.

AGP4LIfe? wrote on 2024-09-07, 14:07:

Just noticed I've got 5ns memories too, but it's clocked at 182mhz in windows iirc.

Many of these Chips & Tech F65545 on Ebay right now. Some under $60 USD. Labelled "advantech pca 6653".

I got one because I was curious about the performance and of the third memory IC.

Modern 1998-99 production year. BIOS (Post and setup) is in 640x480 square even on a widescreen LCD.

Advantech still has the drivers and manual: https://www.advantech.com/en-au/search/?q=665 … rt&from=support

Got this too. Hopefully it works.

MikeSG wrote on 2024-09-11, 08:26:

Many of these Chips & Tech F65545 on Ebay right now. Some under $60 USD. Labelled "advantech pca 6653". […]
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Many of these Chips & Tech F65545 on Ebay right now. Some under $60 USD. Labelled "advantech pca 6653".

I got one because I was curious about the performance and of the third memory IC.

Modern 1998-99 production year. BIOS (Post and setup) is in 640x480 square even on a widescreen LCD.

Advantech still has the drivers and manual: https://www.advantech.com/en-au/search/?q=665 … rt&from=support

Wow, one driver last updated this year. I doubt the files were updated, but just to see 2024 there is interesting.

Another bay purchase!
ABIT AB-BX6 R2.0, w/ SL3XK.

Wes1262 wrote on 2024-09-11, 09:24:

Got this too. Hopefully it works.

Nice one!

I've got its little brother, a 285 😉

Is it a single or dual PCB version?

Thats the single PCB one. I've got a 295 dual pcb too..... and that doesn't work. One day maybe I'll try to figure out whats wrong with it.

Wes1262 wrote on 2024-09-11, 07:57:

AGP4LIfe? wrote on 2024-09-07, 14:07:

Just noticed I've got 5ns memories too, but it's clocked at 182mhz in windows iirc.

Whats the board part number & Bios Rev sticker on the front of the board?

This card is this: 109-70700-20 & 70706. There is multiple revisions of the board and bios.

Wes1262 wrote on 2024-09-11, 12:56:

Thats the single PCB one. I've got a 295 dual pcb too..... and that doesn't work. One day maybe I'll try to figure out whats wrong with it.

The 2 PCB version is very painful to disassemble and clean. Similar in design to the 9800GX2.
It's also painted with a soft touch paint, the kind that become sticky over time. (I have 3 of these cards. From 3 different brands. They all had this sticky paint. Gasoline can help to remove the stickyness)

Do you know if the two revisions can be used together in sli ?

Picked up this Lian Li PC-7F off ebay. Been after one of these for a while now, and I finally managed to get one.

Bancho wrote on 2024-09-11, 18:33:

Picked up this Lian Li PC-7F off ebay. Been after one of these for a while now, and I finally managed to get one. […]
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Picked up this Lian Li PC-7F off ebay. Been after one of these for a while now, and I finally managed to get one.

Oh wow. I've been eye-open for one for a while, too! Looks good, congrats! Any immediate plan for it?

AGP4LIfe? wrote on 2024-09-07, 14:07:

It looks normal, for all intensive purposes. Maybe someone modded the bios?

For all intensive purposes?

Sorry I don't mean to laugh, the idiom is "for all intents and purposes".

AGP4LIfe? wrote on 2024-09-11, 15:01:

Whats the board part number & Bios Rev sticker on the front of the board? […]
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Wes1262 wrote on 2024-09-11, 07:57:

AGP4LIfe? wrote on 2024-09-07, 14:07:

Just noticed I've got 5ns memories too, but it's clocked at 182mhz in windows iirc.

Whats the board part number & Bios Rev sticker on the front of the board?

This card is this: 109-70700-20 & 70706. There is multiple revisions of the board and bios.

Same here. only difference seems to be I have the old style cooler. and I need to check whether I am 200mhz too (but I am fairly certain it's 182mhz)

PcBytes wrote on 2024-09-11, 12:31:

Another bay purchase!
ABIT AB-BX6 R2.0, w/ SL3XK.

I've got two of those and no IO plates 😁 I use one of them as my "daaily" retro driver

YIIIIIIIIIIISSSSSSSSSS. YIIIIIIIIIISSSSSS. IT WORKS. THE 295 WORKS. rare stroke of luck. it was sold as faulty.

Survive furmark?
I suggest giving it a thorough wash and new paste first though.