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First post, by Jackhead

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I just want to open a new thread about my project. To much changed, many testing done and overall this would be more complete.
So the goal is to put a V5 6000 to the limit!
But it has to be a win98SE build. What makes it difficult if you want the 66MHz PCI speed but also use the limited OS ressources.
The P35 ICH9 chipset is not supported. But i managed to find a board with a mod on chipset driver i got it working.
I still waiting for some parts, but my tests before show this will be push the voodoo to the max.

So what i done, first is getting a V6000 remake. I choose the Strange God PCI with 256MB SD-RAM. Testet some PCI-X boards, the best i think is for my project the Asus P5k-WS.
It runs the voodoo without problems and with full 66MHz on the PCI-X.
Installed quick Win98SE with a slow CPU gives me around 10K on 3dmark 2000. But how far it can go with the fastest Core2Duo the 8600?

First at all i had a look on the voodoo. Checking the hotspots. Its not really a need to done this but why not if you got such beast i not stop.
So First i did some cooling mods on my v6000. I replace the Fans for Noctuas, also repleaced the TP with Kryonaut extreme. At least i add some coolers to keep the temps down.

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So the Voodoo is ready to do the magic, more parts will come soon. Cant wait to setup this system.
The Parts i want to use are:

MB: Asus P5k-WS P35
CPU: E8600 3,33GHz - 1333FSB - 6MB L2 @ custom water cooling goal 4,5GHz
GPU: Voodoo 5 6000 Strange God 256MB PCI @ AmigaMerlin 2.9
RAM: 2x 1GB Corsair 1066
SSD: 500GB 970 Evo on Sata bus board
CD: Sony IDE DVD Drive
PSU: be quiet! 650W
SPU: Soundblaster Audigy 2 ZS
OS: Win98SE custom chipset driver

The Voodoo scale very good on L2 Chache. So it will be interessting to see what 6MB did! The Core2Duo is there the max you should go for based on Win98.
Updates follow..

Last edited by Jackhead on 2023-06-20, 17:32. Edited 3 times in total.

Dos 6.22: Asus VL/I-486SV2GX4 Rev 2.0 1Mb L2 - AMD A5x86 X5 ADZ 133MHz @160MHz - 64MB RAM - CT2230 - GUS ACE - MPU-401 AT - ET4000W32P
Win98SE: Asus P5K-WS - E8600 @ 4,5GHz - Strange God Voodoo 5 6000 PCI @ 66MHz PCI-X - 2GB DDR2 1066 - Audigy 2 ZS

Reply 1 of 9, by Jackhead

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So the Voodoo 6000 is a huge board and its heavy too. I choose this Phanteks case what gives me the space.
The CPU Water block is from Aquacomputer, also the Tube with pump. It runs over a 360 cooler on the top.

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Dos 6.22: Asus VL/I-486SV2GX4 Rev 2.0 1Mb L2 - AMD A5x86 X5 ADZ 133MHz @160MHz - 64MB RAM - CT2230 - GUS ACE - MPU-401 AT - ET4000W32P
Win98SE: Asus P5K-WS - E8600 @ 4,5GHz - Strange God Voodoo 5 6000 PCI @ 66MHz PCI-X - 2GB DDR2 1066 - Audigy 2 ZS

Reply 2 of 9, by The Serpent Rider

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ICH9 and ICH10 from your previous build (X58) are practically the same thing.

I must be some kind of standard: the anonymous gangbanger of the 21st century.

Reply 3 of 9, by Jackhead

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The problem was the best performance driver is for win98se. I testet it with 2k and xp.
And you want the best single core performance. Also the win98se driver did not really like above Core2Duo.
I expect with the E8600 and OC on CPU/GPU around 13k-15k 3d2000.
But will be interesting to see how the 8XAA work with the games than with the large VRAM and L2 Cache.
Quake 2 3dfxGlide 1600x1200 8XAA with over 30fps ? (what i want from the 6000)

Dos 6.22: Asus VL/I-486SV2GX4 Rev 2.0 1Mb L2 - AMD A5x86 X5 ADZ 133MHz @160MHz - 64MB RAM - CT2230 - GUS ACE - MPU-401 AT - ET4000W32P
Win98SE: Asus P5K-WS - E8600 @ 4,5GHz - Strange God Voodoo 5 6000 PCI @ 66MHz PCI-X - 2GB DDR2 1066 - Audigy 2 ZS

Reply 4 of 9, by H3nrik V!

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Have you considered supporting the weight of the board, now that you mention that it's heavy?

Please use the "quote" option if asking questions to what I write - it will really up the chances of me noticing 😀

Reply 6 of 9, by Jackhead

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what i use, its not possible to install the voodoo without.. Big old Lady ^^

Dos 6.22: Asus VL/I-486SV2GX4 Rev 2.0 1Mb L2 - AMD A5x86 X5 ADZ 133MHz @160MHz - 64MB RAM - CT2230 - GUS ACE - MPU-401 AT - ET4000W32P
Win98SE: Asus P5K-WS - E8600 @ 4,5GHz - Strange God Voodoo 5 6000 PCI @ 66MHz PCI-X - 2GB DDR2 1066 - Audigy 2 ZS

Reply 7 of 9, by bartonxp

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That's a nice little crutch, it probably wouldn't work for my situation. When a game cheats I usually give the computer a little kick to remind it who's in charge.

Such a nice card. Eagerly awaiting some benchies on the Core 2. 😀

Reply 8 of 9, by Jackhead

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Here first bench with win98SE E8600@ 4,1GHz and the voodoo all 4 cores 175MHz:

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Dos 6.22: Asus VL/I-486SV2GX4 Rev 2.0 1Mb L2 - AMD A5x86 X5 ADZ 133MHz @160MHz - 64MB RAM - CT2230 - GUS ACE - MPU-401 AT - ET4000W32P
Win98SE: Asus P5K-WS - E8600 @ 4,5GHz - Strange God Voodoo 5 6000 PCI @ 66MHz PCI-X - 2GB DDR2 1066 - Audigy 2 ZS

Reply 9 of 9, by Jackhead

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Got it pushed to near 11k with 185MHz on all four VSA100 and 4,75GHz on the E8600

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All chipset Driver for P35 running on win98SE. AHCI Driver work very fast for the Sata SSD

Dos 6.22: Asus VL/I-486SV2GX4 Rev 2.0 1Mb L2 - AMD A5x86 X5 ADZ 133MHz @160MHz - 64MB RAM - CT2230 - GUS ACE - MPU-401 AT - ET4000W32P
Win98SE: Asus P5K-WS - E8600 @ 4,5GHz - Strange God Voodoo 5 6000 PCI @ 66MHz PCI-X - 2GB DDR2 1066 - Audigy 2 ZS