that's an IDE drive , nothing more can be told from this picture

keropi wrote:

that's an IDE drive , nothing more can be told from this picture

Thanks for letting me know.
Now I'll know what to look for

This made me feel really old... When people don't recognize IDE on sight anymore. *cry*

IDE was only totally deprecated 3 years ago!

leileilol wrote:

IDE was only totally deprecated 3 years ago!

Seriously. I clicked into this thinking we'd be ID'ing some IBM or Apple relic from the 1970s, or an older SCSI drive; not PATA. 🤣

Kids these days... 😜

Dakkiller: If you want to use flash memory what you're specifically looking for is a "CF to IDE" or "CF to PATA" adapter. Otherwise you'll be dealing with used hard-drives (most "refurbs" or "As new" that I've seen recently are anything but - they're pulls like everything else) that in some cases can have close to 100,000 runtime hours on them. Be careful when dealing with such used devices - they're mechanical and they do wear out after spinning at 4-10k RPM for YEARS continuously. With flash you have to worry about wear of the flash cell, and as far as I'm aware CF does not do wear-leveling like a modern SSD component.

If the computer is new enough, you may consider just adding a controller card to provide SATA and purchasing a brand new drive.

obobskivich wrote:

leileilol wrote:

IDE was only totally deprecated 3 years ago!

Seriously. I clicked into this thinking we'd be ID'ing some IBM or Apple relic from the 1970s, or an older SCSI drive; not PATA. 🤣

Me too 😀

obobskivich wrote:

Kids these days... 😜

Dakkiller: If you want to use flash memory what you're specifically looking for is a "CF to IDE" or "CF to PATA" adapter. Otherwise you'll be dealing with used hard-drives (most "refurbs" or "As new" that I've seen recently are anything but - they're pulls like everything else) that in some cases can have close to 100,000 runtime hours on them. Be careful when dealing with such used devices - they're mechanical and they do wear out after spinning at 4-10k RPM for YEARS continuously. With flash you have to worry about wear of the flash cell, and as far as I'm aware CF does not do wear-leveling like a modern SSD component.

If the computer is new enough, you may consider just adding a controller card to provide SATA and purchasing a brand new drive.

Disk on chip is also an option, isn't it?

You mean "DOM" or "Disk On Module"? My understanding is they're basically just CF cards as well, but built with the pin adapters on one package as opposed to relying on a stand-alone adapter (the advantage of an adapter is you can swap cards; some of them even take the place of an I/O shield to give you very neat drive swapping).

Anyways - yes they'd work just fine, but personally I'd go with an adapter + card solution, for economic reasons. DOM are usually marked-up because they target embedded applications - a quick look on Amazon shows 2-8GB models for $30-$40 and 32GB for $70. An adapter is $5-10 and a 64GB CF card is around $60. 😀

obobskivich wrote:

You mean "DOM" or "Disk On Module"? My understanding is they're basically just CF cards as well, but built with the pin adapters on one package as opposed to relying on a stand-alone adapter (the advantage of an adapter is you can swap cards; some of them even take the place of an I/O shield to give you very neat drive swapping).

Anyways - yes they'd work just fine, but personally I'd go with an adapter + card solution, for economic reasons. DOM are usually marked-up because they target embedded applications - a quick look on Amazon shows 2-8GB models for $30-$40 and 32GB for $70. An adapter is $5-10 and a 64GB CF card is around $60. 😀

Yes, I always forget what they are called. I bought 1GB one for $6 from a local seller. Neat little thing.

RacoonRider wrote:

obobskivich wrote:

You mean "DOM" or "Disk On Module"? My understanding is they're basically just CF cards as well, but built with the pin adapters on one package as opposed to relying on a stand-alone adapter (the advantage of an adapter is you can swap cards; some of them even take the place of an I/O shield to give you very neat drive swapping).

Anyways - yes they'd work just fine, but personally I'd go with an adapter + card solution, for economic reasons. DOM are usually marked-up because they target embedded applications - a quick look on Amazon shows 2-8GB models for $30-$40 and 32GB for $70. An adapter is $5-10 and a 64GB CF card is around $60. 😀

Yes, I always forget what they are called. I bought 1GB one for $6 from a local seller. Neat little thing.

For $6 that's great, but I'm used to seeing them for more like $60. 😵

Also worth noting for the original guy: what kinds of limits on size does the computer or OS you're putting this drive into have? For example a 64GB card may not be a good choice if you're using DOS.

LunarG wrote:

This made me feel really old... When people don't recognize IDE on sight anymore. *cry*

Wanna feel really old? I have two Corvus drives here,one with an 8 inch mech and the other with a 5.25" mech. They are 5 and 10 megabytes respectively.

sliderider wrote:

LunarG wrote:

This made me feel really old... When people don't recognize IDE on sight anymore. *cry*

Wanna feel really old? I have two Corvus drives here,one with an 8 inch mech and the other with a 5.25" mech. They are 5 and 10 megabytes respectively.

My first PC was one of these: http://www.old-computers.com/MUSEUM/computer.asp?c=889&st=1.
It has two 5.25" floppy drives and no HD. I used it for playing Space Commanders, Zaxxon, Paratrooper and so on.
So yeah 😉 When people start having trouble recognizing a standard IDE HD, then I feel old 😁

obobskivich wrote:

and as far as I'm aware CF does not do wear-leveling like a modern SSD component.

To quote Wikipedia:

Most CompactFlash flash-memory devices limit wear on blocks by varying the physical location to which a block is written. This process is called wear leveling. When using CompactFlash in ATA mode to take the place of the hard disk drive, wear leveling becomes critical because low-numbered blocks contain tables whose contents change frequently. Current CompactFlash cards spread the wear-leveling across the entire drive. The more advanced CompactFlash cards will move data that rarely changes to ensure all blocks wear evenly.

Nice! Well in that case let the DOM flow!

That hard drive is definitely a Maxtor. That sticker along the top edge of the picture gives that away.

obobskivich wrote:

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leileilol wrote:

IDE was only totally deprecated 3 years ago!

Seriously. I clicked into this thinking we'd be ID'ing some IBM or Apple relic from the 1970s, or an older SCSI drive; not PATA. 🤣

Kids these days... 😜

Dakkiller: If you want to use flash memory what you're specifically looking for is a "CF to IDE" or "CF to PATA" adapter. Otherwise you'll be dealing with used hard-drives (most "refurbs" or "As new" that I've seen recently are anything but - they're pulls like everything else) that in some cases can have close to 100,000 runtime hours on them. Be careful when dealing with such used devices - they're mechanical and they do wear out after spinning at 4-10k RPM for YEARS continuously. With flash you have to worry about wear of the flash cell, and as far as I'm aware CF does not do wear-leveling like a modern SSD component.

If the computer is new enough, you may consider just adding a controller card to provide SATA and purchasing a brand new drive.

CF cards do wear-leveling but there is no garbage collection at all and even that might not be on all CF cards but many of them do have it.