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My FIRST Slot A build!

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First post, by PcBytes

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I just got some parts yesterday and thought of building a Slot A machine, considering that's what the platform was.

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JNC LC-B350ATX 350W PSU
EpoX EP-7KXA motherboard (recapped)
AMD Athlon 750MHZ AMD-K7750MTR52B
2x128MB generic SD-RAM, PC133
Quantum Fireball LCT15 GML15000LC-A 15GB
Intel PRO100 NIC PCI
Geforce MX440 AGP8x 64MB
Hitachi-LG GCR-8481B CD-ROM

Haven't decided yet what OS though. Any suggestions are welcome.

Main: i5-3470, 16GB RAM DDR3, Gigabyte B75M-D3H
G.T.2: P2 266MHz, 256MB SDR, Zida/Tomato 6DLX "LX98-AT"
Shaman: P3 650MHz, 384MB RAM, Soyo SY-6BA+ IV

Reply 3 of 21, by PcBytes

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Okay, the one to get most of the votes gets installed. 😀

As for photos, they're coming tomorrow, since my phone's battery is low right now and I've put it to charge.

Main: i5-3470, 16GB RAM DDR3, Gigabyte B75M-D3H
G.T.2: P2 266MHz, 256MB SDR, Zida/Tomato 6DLX "LX98-AT"
Shaman: P3 650MHz, 384MB RAM, Soyo SY-6BA+ IV

Reply 4 of 21, by Fusion

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Jade Falcon wrote:

Why not 2k?

Win2k is always nice, and I do I run a system with it but depending one what games you are going to play (if any), you'll run into some compatibility issues. Usually they are simple fixes but other games like Need For Speed High Stakes for example, won't run at all or with optimal settings (Glide).

WIP Retro Files
P3 800 | 512MB PC100| PCI V3 3000 16MB @ 195/195 | CT4780 SB Live! Value| WinME
P3 450 | 128MB PC100| AGP TNT2 Pro 32MB | CT4170 SB16 | MS-DOS 7.10
A64 2.4 | 2GB DDR1 | PCI-E Radeon X800XT @ 575/575 | Win2K

Reply 5 of 21, by Almoststew1990

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I am also in the process of doing my first Slot A build (as in, the CPU/RAM/Motherboard are in the mail!) which will go with Windows 98SE. It's only a 550MHz CPU but I think I'll be able to get a 750MHz chip from another forum. I'll be putting a TNT2, 9600XT and possibly Geforce FX 5700 in it. I hope (with the 750MHz chip) it will be a big upgrade over my 450MHz PII I used to have.

Ryzen 3700X | 16GB 3600MHz RAM | AMD 6800XT | 2Tb NVME SSD | Windows 10
AMD DX2-80 | 16MB RAM | STB LIghtspeed 128 | AWE32 CT3910
I have a vacancy for a main Windows 98 PC

Reply 6 of 21, by 0101000000110101

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Lovely build!

Speaking of late 90s AMD...

I have freaking 20 Socket T boards just laying around...

1995 Gateway 2000 P5-120
Intel Pentium P5 120Mhz
16MB EDO RAM
1MB Trident 3D capable GPU
250GB Western Digital IDE drive
OS(s): Windows 98/Windows 2000 SP1

Reply 7 of 21, by Jade Falcon

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Fusion wrote:
Jade Falcon wrote:

Why not 2k?

Win2k is always nice, and I do I run a system with it but depending one what games you are going to play (if any), you'll run into some compatibility issues. Usually they are simple fixes but other games like Need For Speed High Stakes for example, won't run at all or with optimal settings (Glide).

Indeed 2k is nice. Far more stable then 9x. But there are a small handful of games that just dont like anything but 9x,lLike MW2. but most of them do have work arounds or dos ports.
Another think to note is 2k doesn't have very good dos support foe games. But that's nothing a boot disk cant fix

Reply 8 of 21, by PcBytes

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Okay. Here are some pics.

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Main: i5-3470, 16GB RAM DDR3, Gigabyte B75M-D3H
G.T.2: P2 266MHz, 256MB SDR, Zida/Tomato 6DLX "LX98-AT"
Shaman: P3 650MHz, 384MB RAM, Soyo SY-6BA+ IV

Reply 9 of 21, by PcBytes

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And this is the second part.

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Main: i5-3470, 16GB RAM DDR3, Gigabyte B75M-D3H
G.T.2: P2 266MHz, 256MB SDR, Zida/Tomato 6DLX "LX98-AT"
Shaman: P3 650MHz, 384MB RAM, Soyo SY-6BA+ IV

Reply 10 of 21, by chinny22

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Nice, not many members of the slot A club, I joined earlier with a dumpster find but wont have a chance to do anything with it for few months yet.

Do you have any other retro systems? If you already have a Win98 system I would go with Win2k just to be different.
Need for Speed, and Return Fire are the only games I have that don't like Win2k.

Or do what I do, Duel boot between the 2, I play most windows games in 2k, or drop back to Win98 for the games above and also Dos mode

Reply 11 of 21, by PcBytes

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I actually ended up going with Windows 98 SE on it, mainly because I want to run a few older games:

NFS2 SE
Oddworld
NFS Porsche 2000
NFS Hot Pursuit 2
Carmageddon 2
Rollcage

and a few more games that run better on 98SE.
For a 2k machine, the specs would be between the K6-2 - Pentium 3 range, and XP would be Pentium 4 upwards.

Main: i5-3470, 16GB RAM DDR3, Gigabyte B75M-D3H
G.T.2: P2 266MHz, 256MB SDR, Zida/Tomato 6DLX "LX98-AT"
Shaman: P3 650MHz, 384MB RAM, Soyo SY-6BA+ IV

Reply 12 of 21, by Almoststew1990

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Hi,

I am building my first Slot A PC at the moment too. I am looking to clean out the heatsink and re-apply thermal paste. I got the 'exterior' heatsink off with no trouble as it is just held in place with those clips. However, I am not sure of a couple of things:

Do I need to apply thermal paste between the cartridge and the heatsink? It is a very big area if I do!
Do I need to apply thermal paste between the CPU and the inside of the cartridge? If so, how do I open the cartridge?

Ryzen 3700X | 16GB 3600MHz RAM | AMD 6800XT | 2Tb NVME SSD | Windows 10
AMD DX2-80 | 16MB RAM | STB LIghtspeed 128 | AWE32 CT3910
I have a vacancy for a main Windows 98 PC

Reply 13 of 21, by elod

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At first I wanted to comment that you should toss that JNC asap but then I remembered that you're the one enjoying rebuilding these things...
How is the VIA chipset? I only have 2 AMD boards...

Reply 14 of 21, by SW-SSG

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That PSU frightens me, but I assume from previous posts that you've modified this one to work better.

HDD choice is interesting: Quantum lct15 is a 4400RPM budget-class drive. In a slot A box I would assume fast+big 7200RPM units were much more often used, but I suppose this one is fine for Win98 (and I'm sure it's much quieter, too).

Reply 15 of 21, by PcBytes

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SW-SSG wrote:

That PSU frightens me, but I assume from previous posts that you've modified this one to work better.

HDD choice is interesting: Quantum lct15 is a 4400RPM budget-class drive. In a slot A box I would assume fast+big 7200RPM units were much more often used, but I suppose this one is fine for Win98 (and I'm sure it's much quieter, too).

Yeah, it's pretty quiet.

As for the PSU, if you want, I can provide some internal shots.

Main: i5-3470, 16GB RAM DDR3, Gigabyte B75M-D3H
G.T.2: P2 266MHz, 256MB SDR, Zida/Tomato 6DLX "LX98-AT"
Shaman: P3 650MHz, 384MB RAM, Soyo SY-6BA+ IV

Reply 16 of 21, by Robert B

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Almoststew1990 wrote:
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Hi,

I am building my first Slot A PC at the moment too. I am looking to clean out the heatsink and re-apply thermal paste. I got the 'exterior' heatsink off with no trouble as it is just held in place with those clips. However, I am not sure of a couple of things:

Do I need to apply thermal paste between the cartridge and the heatsink? It is a very big area if I do!
Do I need to apply thermal paste between the CPU and the inside of the cartridge? If so, how do I open the cartridge?

YES and YES.

For sure the thermal compound is toast and if I were you I'd change everything. You will need therma pads for the CAHE chips.

The process takes time but this way the CPUs will run cooler.

All of this can be found in my thread. More information can be found futher when I test the ASUS K7M motherboard.

Re: Hello, World! :D - Robert B's PC builds - oogle away freely :)

Enjoy.

Reply 17 of 21, by elod

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PcBytes wrote:

As for the PSU, if you want, I can provide some internal shots.

Please do 😀. I know they were properly designed circuit boards but populated "lightly". Replacing the components should provide an ok unit. If I remember right, the complete units were sold as Allied in Europe. The JNCs are a "celebrity" in Hungary (after one of the larger importers it seems: Vargáné).

Reply 19 of 21, by PcBytes

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Okay then, here they are.

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Main: i5-3470, 16GB RAM DDR3, Gigabyte B75M-D3H
G.T.2: P2 266MHz, 256MB SDR, Zida/Tomato 6DLX "LX98-AT"
Shaman: P3 650MHz, 384MB RAM, Soyo SY-6BA+ IV