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First post, by spacedrone808

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I've managed to build following system:
AMD Threadripper 1950x/Noctua u14s/Asrock x399m/64gb Corsair 2666Mhz/512gb Samsung 970 pro nvme/2 tb seagate firecuda with ssd cache/16gb vega vii/asus essense stx ii/fractal case/nec pa301w/topre keys

Any suggestions to improve build?

Last edited by spacedrone808 on 2019-08-11, 06:55. Edited 1 time in total.

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Reply 1 of 40, by weldum

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to me is way overkill for a windows 7 build, and no, that's not retro

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Reply 2 of 40, by Srandista

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Congrats to build. But man, honestly, I hesitate to call my Core2 era build "retro" and I rather writing it with quotes, because even that is pushing it in my eyes. But to call retro 2 years old platform with still supported system, yeah, that's whole another level...

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Reply 3 of 40, by keenmaster486

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It's only retro if it can't run modern software. What you have built is a beast of a modern system that happens to be running Windows 7, which is still a mature modern 64-bit OS.

If the only limitations of Win7 are artificially imposed (as will soon happen), then it's definitely not retro. Just unsupported.

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Reply 4 of 40, by canthearu

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To me, a core 2 system can be retro if you are running windows XP on it and it's hardware is geared to run this software well. Of course, core 2 is really at the edge of what I call retro in terms of hardware, it has only just gone over the hill in terms of capacity from being current to near retro.

Anything running windows 7, can also run windows 10, it isn't really retro. Hell, Microsoft still officially supports windows 7, it is still current.

Reply 6 of 40, by spacedrone808

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C2D on Windows XP is definitely a retro thing.
But Windows 7 in couple of years become retro for sure.

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Reply 7 of 40, by SpectriaForce

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Windows 7 is still in use in many places. Retro means that something is in use again (after a substantial period of no use), it's in demand again and people have memories about something. Your pc doesn't classify as that.

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Reply 9 of 40, by spacedrone808

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Yep, and luckily we'll get ESU after eol.

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Reply 10 of 40, by agent_x007

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As long as Nvidia and AMD will support Windows 7 with drivers - you won't be able to build "max. configuration".
Even for Windows XP, EVGA's Z390 Dark is capable of running it (using special BIOS).
Hard limit for XP came in form of internet browsers, maximum RAM (mainly 32-bit OS = ~3,5GB limit), lack of GPU drivers (Maxwell 2.0 or HD 7970) and games going moving to DX10/DX11 only.

Windows 7 doesn't have this limits for now (drivers are being made, it's 64-bit by default, games still support it). It will be quite A LOT of time, before Win7 becomes retro OS.

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Reply 11 of 40, by kolderman

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keenmaster486 wrote:

It's only retro if it can't run modern software.

I think it's the other way round. I.e. If modern systems can't run it or games from it's era then it's retro.

Win 7 will likely run fine on almost any modern hardware, and games from 2007 onwards are likely to run just fine too.

Cannot say the same about XP or games from 2002 generally.

Reply 12 of 40, by Tetrium

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How is this retro? This is basically brand new stuff 🤣

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Reply 13 of 40, by spacedrone808

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Not h/w of course, i mean OS.
But i agree with above statements that it is not retro yet, it's just ageing.

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Reply 14 of 40, by BinaryDemon

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Are there any new games that won't run on Windows 7? I'm having trouble thinking of any titles that are DX12 only. There are probably some exclusive games on Microsoft's App Store which (last I heard) isn't directly accessible on Windows 7, but I don't think any gamer gives those serious consideration.

Anyway that's why I find it hard consider Win7 retro, because everything from that era pretty much still runs fine on Win10/modern hardware and conversely the Windows 7 user really is not missing anything from a modern gaming experience.

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Reply 15 of 40, by Jo22

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kolderman wrote:
I think it's the other way round. I.e. If modern systems can't run it or games from it's era then it's retro. […]
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keenmaster486 wrote:

It's only retro if it can't run modern software.

I think it's the other way round. I.e. If modern systems can't run it or games from it's era then it's retro.

Win 7 will likely run fine on almost any modern hardware, and games from 2007 onwards are likely to run just fine too.

Cannot say the same about XP or games from 2002 generally.

Afaik, "retro" means "looking backwards" or "backwards turned", which includes everything that mimics something that's older or cult.
"Vintage" or "classic" is the real old stuff. A modern PC running DOS can be retro, but not "vintage" (well, not yet).
Clone consoles do fit into both categories sometimes, I guess.
if they are new, but do contain compatible/replica hardware almost 1:1 in function (SoCs etc), they are both retro and "classic".
Emulator boxes (Nintendo Classic, Firecore etc) are just retro, on the other hand.
Anyway, it's all a matter of point of view. 😉

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Reply 16 of 40, by Caluser2000

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I personally think the term "retro"is over used. I do not consider my XT Turbo, 286, 386, 486s and P1 era stuff or my various Acorn systems "retro". Old yes. Of the era yes. I can still do today with them the same things I did back when they were new and "current" plus more given that parts are usually a hell of a lot cheaper now then they were back then. It's good that some folk see the value(I don't mean monitory) to keep these systems alive, even if it is for just gaming.

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Reply 19 of 40, by dr_st

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oeuvre wrote:

Windows 7 is still supported until January.

So is Vista! (for security purposes only)

BRB, going to build my retro Ice Lake build with the unsupported Win10 version 1607.

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