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Descent II installation error

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First post, by mspc

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I'm trying to install Descent II in dosbox on a linux system and after doing the following:

Z:\>mount d /mnt/usb2 -t cdrom

Z:\>d:

D:\>install

I get the error:

Error: Descent II CD not in drive.
INSTALL must be run from your Descent II CD.

The CD is in the drive. Pls help.

Reply 4 of 27, by mspc

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sry mate, but D2X-XL and I have some beef with each other. I'm strongly opposed to the idea that higher resolution textures, alpha effects, addition of unnecessary interface components, etc. constitutes an improvement to the game; and in this case, it made the game worse. I'll either play it the classic way (the way it was meant to be played) or I won't play it at all.

Reply 7 of 27, by Dominus

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make an image (bin/cue not iso) of the CD and imgmount that.

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Reply 8 of 27, by Gamecollector

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Well, the trouble with the "play it the classic way" - there is NO fps limiter in the original Descent/Descent 2. It's too fast. Or the speed is floating constantly (DosBox). So you must use accelerated/modded version for the "original" play.

Can you test this cd with the DosBox+Windows PC?

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Reply 9 of 27, by leileilol

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Gamecollector wrote:

Well, the trouble with the "play it the classic way" - there is NO fps limiter in the original Descent/Descent 2.

I swore they added one by Descent 1.4

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Reply 11 of 27, by Gamecollector

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Ahcruna wrote:

I think the speed of everything else was just fine though.

No. Weapons are FPS-dependant too. Enemy's homing missile 180-degree turn after the miss is making the game impossible.

leileilol wrote:

I swore they added one by Descent 1.4

Nope.
So you must use d1x/d2x or the glide versions.

Reply 12 of 27, by Ahcruna

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Gamecollector wrote:
Ahcruna wrote:

I think the speed of everything else was just fine though.

No. Weapons are FPS-dependant too. Enemy's homing missile 180-degree turn after the miss is making the game impossible.

Ah yes, you're right. I forgot about those crazy missiles.

Reply 14 of 27, by mspc

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Is the original CD or a copy?

Original.

make an image (bin/cue not iso) of the CD and imgmount that.

I'm unsure how you think this will help. It will be mounting an image to a drive all the same.

Well, the trouble with the "play it the classic way" - there is NO fps limiter in the original Descent/Descent 2. It's too fast. Or the speed is floating constantly (DosBox). So you must use accelerated/modded version for the "original" play.

You can fix this by adjusting emulated CPU cycles in dosbox. I've done this successfully for Descent.

Can you test this cd with the DosBox+Windows PC?

I'm afraid I don't have one at my disposal.

Reply 16 of 27, by Dominus

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The image might be more compatible, but you don't have to do it, it's up to you.

More compatible because of the label (you can add this with the mount command though) but even more because it will allow the audio tracks to be "mounted" if there are any. Unless linux is way different than OSX, it only automatically mounts the data track of a mixed mode CD. So when you then use mount in Dosbox it misses those. Since I don't have this game I'm just guessing though.
But these are the differences between mounting a CD-Rom and an image.
Make sure you make a bin/cue image and not an iso (since that looses the audio tracks again).

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Reply 17 of 27, by mspc

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Okay Dominus, I've trying making and mounting a bin/cue, following several slightly differing instructions on the dosbox wiki and manual. First I mounted C:

mount c dosgames

then I tried the following commands and got the same error each time:

imgmount d dosgames/descent2.cue -t iso -fs iso
Could not load image file: dosgames/descent2.cue
MSCDEX: Failure: Invalid file or unable to open.
imgmount d dosgames/descent2.cue -t iso
Could not load image file: dosgames/descent2.cue
MSCDEX: Failure: Invalid file or unable to open.
imgmount d dosgames/descent2.cue -t cdrom -fs iso
Could not load image file: dosgames/descent2.cue
MSCDEX: Failure: Invalid file or unable to open.
imgmount d dosgames/descent2.cue -t cdrom
Could not load image file: dosgames/descent2.cue
MSCDEX: Failure: Invalid file or unable to open.
imgmount d c:\descent2.cue -t iso -fs iso
Could not load image file: dosgames/descent2.cue
MSCDEX: Failure: Invalid file or unable to open.
imgmount d c:\descent2.cue -t iso
Could not load image file: dosgames/descent2.cue
MSCDEX: Failure: Invalid file or unable to open.
imgmount d c:\descent2.cue -t cdrom -fs iso
Could not load image file: dosgames/descent2.cue
MSCDEX: Failure: Invalid file or unable to open.
imgmount d c:\descent2.cue -t cdrom
Could not load image file: dosgames/descent2.cue
MSCDEX: Failure: Invalid file or unable to open.

I've followed the instructions to the dot. Any ideas what's wrong? Btw, yes, the .bin file resides in the same directory.

Reply 18 of 27, by mspc

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Btw, about DXX-rebirth: it lags on my quad-core/4MB/768MB VRAM system, even at lowest resolution with no optional effect. I could try to troubleshoot that, but I have a feeling solving my mounting problem will be a much easier resolution.

Reply 19 of 27, by Dominus

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Is the name of the bin in the cue correct? Mind the case sensitivity as well...
And its just -t iso (see the manual).

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