Guide - Windows 95 on DOSBox 0.74

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Re: Guide - Windows 95 on DOSBox 0.74

Postby Shouker » 2010-6-05 @ 16:55

Thank you very much h-a-l-9000! Trio64 PCI driver works fine!
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Re: Guide - Windows 95 on DOSBox 0.74

Postby Dominus » 2010-6-05 @ 19:40

@Svenne, it's explained in the guide and in my second post...
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Re: Guide - Windows 95 on DOSBox 0.74

Postby dada » 2010-6-05 @ 23:01

Shouker wrote:Hi
I run windows 95B under dosbox 0.74
With machine=svga_s3 the display of icons is completely messed up for 256 colors, 16 bits and 32 bits colors.
I tried somes other s3 drivers but I didn't found something working properly
It is working for someone with svga_s3 ?

It should work just fine. I'm using svga_s3 as well. Try changing the output system (up in the sdl section). I've also got RAM set to 32 but I don't think that should matter. But Windows supports other video cards as well so svga_paradise would probably work as well.
edit: didn't realize there was a page 2 already, so I guess you already fixed it!
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Re: Guide - Windows 95 on DOSBox 0.74

Postby robertmo » 2010-6-06 @ 09:11

dada wrote:TODO
  • Get internet working
  • Get CD-ROM drive working (is this possible?)
  • Find out how to easily move win95 dir to disk image on Windows host operating system


internet:
use hal's build

cd:
it is possible viewtopic.php?p=176296#176296

easily move win95 dir to disk image:
just do both: mount and imgmount (don't boot) and copy whatever you want wherever you want
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Re: Guide - Windows 95 on DOSBox 0.74

Postby Gadget2006 » 2010-6-06 @ 11:29

Hello,
I'm trying to install Windows 95B under DOSBox 0.74 (stock version, not the MegaBuild or any other modified revisions) - I got it all working smooth until the finalization stage when the installer sets up the Control Panel etc., there are many errors at that period saying "The program performed an illegal operation and will be closed" (this is usually referring to RegSvr32 or RunDll32). The installation completes and Win95 runs, but it's impossible to open the control panel to change the settings (the Explorer crashes) - is that normal behavior so far or is it just me doing something wrong?

P.S. I'm running with core=normal, cputype=pentium_slow, cycles=max, machine=svga_s3, all other settings at their default values.
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Re: Guide - Windows 95 on DOSBox 0.74

Postby h-a-l-9000 » 2010-6-06 @ 11:33

core=normal won't do
1+1=10
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Re: Guide - Windows 95 on DOSBox 0.74

Postby Gadget2006 » 2010-6-06 @ 11:42

Well, I just retried with core=simple and core=dynamic, but both failed with the same symptoms...
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Re: Guide - Windows 95 on DOSBox 0.74

Postby dada » 2010-6-06 @ 11:53

My install was entirely done on core=normal. Actually, I installed it on core=simple before, which worked too until I reached Windows proper at which point it resulted in massive visual glitches. It should be working. Are you sure your Windows ISO is not damaged somehow?
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Re: Guide - Windows 95 on DOSBox 0.74

Postby Gadget2006 » 2010-6-06 @ 12:02

dada wrote:My install was entirely done on core=normal. Actually, I installed it on core=simple before, which worked too until I reached Windows proper at which point it resulted in massive visual glitches. It should be working. Are you sure your Windows ISO is not damaged somehow?


Well, it's the same thing I installed totally successfully over 15 years ago on my real DOS/Win9x rig, and I'm running it off of a backup ISO which I made from the CD several years ago - and I did try it out under VMWare some time ago and it did work fine, which means that the ISO was and is good... *shrug* Should be good as far as I can tell, but I'll check again to make sure of course. Will report back.
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Re: Guide - Windows 95 on DOSBox 0.74

Postby robertmo » 2010-6-06 @ 12:04

Maybe both start by telling what exact versions (and language version) you used.
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Re: Guide - Windows 95 on DOSBox 0.74

Postby h-a-l-9000 » 2010-6-06 @ 12:14

Only the first Win95 version runs more or less okay.
1+1=10
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Re: Guide - Windows 95 on DOSBox 0.74

Postby Gadget2006 » 2010-6-06 @ 12:23

h-a-l-9000 wrote:Only the first Win95 version runs more or less okay.


OK, I see. The only one I have is OSR2 (95B), so I guess that rules it out... Thanks for the advice.
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Re: Guide - Windows 95 on DOSBox 0.74

Postby Svenne » 2010-6-06 @ 22:35

I got it working in DOSBox 0.74, but it doesn't work in the Megabuild. It plays half of the startup sound, and then DOSBox crashes. Any help, please?
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Re: Guide - Windows 95 on DOSBox 0.74

Postby XP1 » 2010-8-20 @ 06:58

This looks like a nice time-killer for Windows 95 lovers. However, wouldn't Windows 95 be more useful and functional if you used an actual OS virtualization software?
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Re: Guide - Windows 95 on DOSBox 0.74

Postby Jorpho » 2010-8-20 @ 13:00

h-a-l-9000 wrote:Only the first Win95 version runs more or less okay.
Is it the 95B/98 shell that causes the problem? (If it's installing but Explorer is crashing, it's a possibility, right?) It is a fairly straightforward matter to replace it with the shell from the first version of Win95 (either by using 98lite or by manually replacing a couple of files).

XP1 wrote:This looks like a nice time-killer for Windows 95 lovers. However, wouldn't Windows 95 be more useful and functional if you used an actual OS virtualization software?
Indeed. I have the impression that Mr. Gadget2006 is seeking to run it on other platforms, however.
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Re: Guide - Windows 95 on DOSBox 0.74

Postby h-a-l-9000 » 2010-8-20 @ 13:18

I've had better luck with modified DOSBox paging and cycles > 15000. Also it needs the 32-bit dynamic core because its the only one that supports non-recursive page fault handling.
1+1=10
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Re: Guide - Windows 95 on DOSBox 0.74

Postby ppgrainbow » 2010-8-20 @ 17:09

As I'm still stuck with the Megabuild version of DOSBox 0.73, what configurations did you use in DOSBox in order to get Windows 95 working properly?
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Re: Guide - Windows 95 on DOSBox 0.74

Postby h-a-l-9000 » 2010-8-20 @ 17:39

- first Win95 version
- 32 bit dynamic core
- cputype=pentium_slow or 486_slow
- memsize to maximum, though not sure if it is a must
1+1=10
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Re: Guide - Windows 95 on DOSBox 0.74

Postby ppgrainbow » 2010-8-21 @ 07:36

Thanks. Do you mean the original release of Windows 95 or Windows 95 OEM Service Release 1? I thought that the OSR2 version of Windows 95 would work in DOSBox 0.73MB5, but it turns out that it is not supported.

And it's a good thing that I'm still running Windows 95 OSR2 under VMware Player with a 4 GB hard disk image, 64 MB of memory and 4 MB of video.
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Re: Guide - Windows 95 on DOSBox 0.74

Postby Qbix » 2010-8-21 @ 07:54

no version of win95 is supported.
Some work to some extend. nothing more.
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