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Reply 2300 of 2309, by Harry Potter

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I have some floppies at my mother's house for a Win98SE computer there, and they are compressed with DriveSpace. Can I use them with a Win98SE installation with DriveSpace installed? Same with Zip100 disks?

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Reply 2301 of 2309, by darry

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Harry Potter wrote on 2022-07-16, 20:34:

I have some floppies at my mother's house for a Win98SE computer there, and they are compressed with DriveSpace. Can I use them with a Win98SE installation with DriveSpace installed? Same with Zip100 disks?

It might work in Dosbox-X (honestly don't know, somebody else might chime in on that), but my first thing to try would be Virtualbox instead for that use case. For the ZIP, if yourdisks your ZIP Drive is USB, Virtualbox's USB passthrough will likely make things easier.

Reply 2302 of 2309, by TheGreatCodeholio

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darry wrote on 2022-07-17, 03:23:
Harry Potter wrote on 2022-07-16, 20:34:

I have some floppies at my mother's house for a Win98SE computer there, and they are compressed with DriveSpace. Can I use them with a Win98SE installation with DriveSpace installed? Same with Zip100 disks?

It might work in Dosbox-X (honestly don't know, somebody else might chime in on that), but my first thing to try would be Virtualbox instead for that use case. For the ZIP, if yourdisks your ZIP Drive is USB, Virtualbox's USB passthrough will likely make things easier.

Zip 100 disks could be mounted as if a hard disk image. I've archived ZIP disks before (it's easy in Linux using ddrescue and the USB version of the ZIP drive), the medium itself appears as an array of 512-byte sectors regardless of the file system written on it.

Are you sure the floppies are DriveSpace compressed? I've only ever heard of DriveSpace compressed hard disk partitions, but never floppies.

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Reply 2303 of 2309, by Harry Potter

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Yes, the floppies are DrivrSpace-compressed. I compressed them myself. 😀 Thank you for the info! 😀

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Reply 2304 of 2309, by buckeye

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New to Dosbox-x and got windows 98 running through it on a win10 system. Question I have is what is the procedure to get usb sticks to interact with it?
Install usb drivers via an image file? Can't seem to find any info on it so maybe it's a no go.

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Reply 2305 of 2309, by Harry Potter

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Try:

mount e d:\ -t floppy

where e is the name of the drive to call it and d:\ is the drive as Windows sees it.

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Reply 2306 of 2309, by _Rob

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buckeye wrote on 2022-08-01, 15:24:

New to Dosbox-x and got windows 98 running through it on a win10 system. Question I have is what is the procedure to get usb sticks to interact with it?
Install usb drivers via an image file? Can't seem to find any info on it so maybe it's a no go.

There is no support for USB pass-through.

Reply 2307 of 2309, by _Rob

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Harry Potter wrote on 2022-08-02, 14:51:

Try:

mount e d:\ -t floppy

where e is the name of the drive to call it and d:\ is the drive as Windows sees it.

That is a folder mount, and will not work with a guest OS as such.

But starting with the latest DOSBox-X release, there is now support for dynamically converting a folder mount into a FAT HDD partition, available to a guest OS. This is documented on the DOSBox-X wiki. e.g.,
https://dosbox-x.com/wiki/Guide%3AInstalling- … t_folder_mounts

Reply 2308 of 2309, by buckeye

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Thanks all for the info, like to keep it simple so I'll stick to image files for transferring stuff for now.

On a side note can anyone explain why when in the guest os under the dosbox-x drive menu all the drives are "grayed out"?

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Reply 2309 of 2309, by _Rob

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buckeye wrote on 2022-08-08, 15:43:

Thanks all for the info, like to keep it simple so I'll stick to image files for transferring stuff for now.

On a side note can anyone explain why when in the guest os under the dosbox-x drive menu all the drives are "grayed out"?

That is a known limitation. It is because the DOSBox-X drive letters loose their meaning once you boot a guest OS. At that point the guest OS is responsible for assigning drive letters and therefore DOSBox-X does not know which drive letter corresponds to the drive letters from the guest OS. Internally a drive ID is used, and really once you boot a guest OS, those drive letters should probably be replaced by the drive ID, but that has yet to be implemented.