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First post, by leonardo

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So I decided to get back to my hobby, and realised one of my retro rigs didn't make a lot of sense.

The 1 GHz Pentium III was held back a little too much by the PCI graphics card for the later games in my collection I keep it around for, and thus I decided to explore if upgrading the video card (and Windows) would be a worthwhile venture. My theory was that despite having to reduce the CPU clock from 1 GHz by a hefty 250 MHz to get the AGP bus back to the specced 66 MHz, the difference in upgrading my RivaTNT2 to an early GeForce or Radeon would make up the difference.

I was right. At 750 MHz and with a Radeon 9200 the system runs late 90's/early 2000's 3D games with a considerable improvement in performance compared to 1 GHz with a PCI based RivaTNT2. For any other apps I really can't tell the difference between a 750 MHz and a 1 GHz P III, though I'm sure it would show in benchmarks.

My question to you is this:
Are there video cards from the era with comparable performance to that of the Radeon 9200 that can also handle an overclocked AGP bus?
I ask because I want to figure out if I'm settling on this Radeon 9200 in AGP 1x mode. It sure would be nice to be able to run the CPU and RAM at 133 MHz FSB.

Full rig details are in the sig.

My retro rigs
Methuselah, AMD K6-III+ 400 MHz, Voodoo 3 PCI, etc...
Longbottom, Pentium III 1 GHz, Radeon 9200, Aureal Vortex2

Reply 1 of 3, by darry

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leonardo wrote on 2021-01-13, 22:35:
So I decided to get back to my hobby, and realised one of my retro rigs didn't make a lot of sense. […]
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So I decided to get back to my hobby, and realised one of my retro rigs didn't make a lot of sense.

The 1 GHz Pentium III was held back a little too much by the PCI graphics card for the later games in my collection I keep it around for, and thus I decided to explore if upgrading the video card (and Windows) would be a worthwhile venture. My theory was that despite having to reduce the CPU clock from 1 GHz by a hefty 250 MHz to get the AGP bus back to the specced 66 MHz, the difference in upgrading my RivaTNT2 to an early GeForce or Radeon would make up the difference.

I was right. At 750 MHz and with a Radeon 9200 the system runs late 90's/early 2000's 3D games with a considerable improvement in performance compared to 1 GHz with a PCI based RivaTNT2. For any other apps I really can't tell the difference between a 750 MHz and a 1 GHz P III, though I'm sure it would show in benchmarks.

My question to you is this:
Are there video cards from the era with comparable performance to that of the Radeon 9200 that can also handle an overclocked AGP bus?
I ask because I want to figure out if I'm settling on this Radeon 9200 in AGP 1x mode. It sure would be nice to be able to run the CPU and RAM at 133 MHz FSB.

Full rig details are in the sig.

Look here : 440BX 133Mhz FSB 89Mhz AGP Video Card Compatibility? agp#p500328

Reply 2 of 3, by leonardo

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darry wrote on 2021-01-13, 22:45:
leonardo wrote on 2021-01-13, 22:35:
So I decided to get back to my hobby, and realised one of my retro rigs didn't make a lot of sense. […]
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So I decided to get back to my hobby, and realised one of my retro rigs didn't make a lot of sense.

The 1 GHz Pentium III was held back a little too much by the PCI graphics card for the later games in my collection I keep it around for, and thus I decided to explore if upgrading the video card (and Windows) would be a worthwhile venture. My theory was that despite having to reduce the CPU clock from 1 GHz by a hefty 250 MHz to get the AGP bus back to the specced 66 MHz, the difference in upgrading my RivaTNT2 to an early GeForce or Radeon would make up the difference.

I was right. At 750 MHz and with a Radeon 9200 the system runs late 90's/early 2000's 3D games with a considerable improvement in performance compared to 1 GHz with a PCI based RivaTNT2. For any other apps I really can't tell the difference between a 750 MHz and a 1 GHz P III, though I'm sure it would show in benchmarks.

My question to you is this:
Are there video cards from the era with comparable performance to that of the Radeon 9200 that can also handle an overclocked AGP bus?
I ask because I want to figure out if I'm settling on this Radeon 9200 in AGP 1x mode. It sure would be nice to be able to run the CPU and RAM at 133 MHz FSB.

Full rig details are in the sig.

Look here : 440BX 133Mhz FSB 89Mhz AGP Video Card Compatibility? agp#p500328

Thanks. Looks like based on the thread and the linked Anandtech article I can rest happy. Most cards that would handle the overclock (potentially) are in the same weight class. Interesting tidbit was the knowledge that disabling sideband addressing helps with some cards.

My retro rigs
Methuselah, AMD K6-III+ 400 MHz, Voodoo 3 PCI, etc...
Longbottom, Pentium III 1 GHz, Radeon 9200, Aureal Vortex2