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Reply 46540 of 47864, by weedeewee

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OMORES wrote on 2022-10-03, 17:15:

This Audiodrive ES-688, with many IDE connectors..

FYI, there might be one IDE connector, the others are mitsumi/Sony/Panasonic CDROM connectors.

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Reply 46541 of 47864, by Shponglefan

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I recently bought an Apple IIe via ebay. I'd hesitated buying online due to the prospect of shipping damage. In this case, the seller was only two hours away, so I offered to pick up instead of having it shipped. Frustratingly they responded that they don't do pick ups and that they had shipped out claiming it was "well packaged".

When the computer arrived my fears were confirmed: the outer case had been cracked and broken during shipment.

The monitor itself is still enroute and I have to wait to see if that survived or if it also suffered damage.

Very frustrating that a two hour drive would have prevented damage to this machine if the seller had only been willing to let me pick this thing up. 🙁

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Reply 46542 of 47864, by dormcat

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weedeewee wrote on 2022-10-03, 18:12:
OMORES wrote on 2022-10-03, 17:15:

This Audiodrive ES-688, with many IDE connectors..

FYI, there might be one IDE connector, the others are mitsumi/Sony/Panasonic CDROM connectors.

The left end of the photo is rather fuzzy, but one can still read those captions on PCB from top to bottom: Mitsumi, Sony, Panasonic, IDE.

Reply 46543 of 47864, by SteveC

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Shponglefan wrote on 2022-10-03, 19:34:
I recently bought an Apple IIe via ebay. I'd hesitated buying online due to the prospect of shipping damage. In this case, the s […]
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I recently bought an Apple IIe via ebay. I'd hesitated buying online due to the prospect of shipping damage. In this case, the seller was only two hours away, so I offered to pick up instead of having it shipped. Frustratingly they responded that they don't do pick ups and that they had shipped out claiming it was "well packaged".

When the computer arrived my fears were confirmed: the outer case had been cracked and broken during shipment.

The monitor itself is still enroute and I have to wait to see if that survived or if it also suffered damage.

Very frustrating that a two hour drive would have prevented damage to this machine if the seller had only been willing to let me pick this thing up. 🙁

Ah that's real sad 🙁 What will you do? Get some sort of refund?

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Reply 46544 of 47864, by pete8475

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Shponglefan wrote on 2022-10-03, 19:34:
I recently bought an Apple IIe via ebay. I'd hesitated buying online due to the prospect of shipping damage. In this case, the s […]
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I recently bought an Apple IIe via ebay. I'd hesitated buying online due to the prospect of shipping damage. In this case, the seller was only two hours away, so I offered to pick up instead of having it shipped. Frustratingly they responded that they don't do pick ups and that they had shipped out claiming it was "well packaged".

When the computer arrived my fears were confirmed: the outer case had been cracked and broken during shipment.

The monitor itself is still enroute and I have to wait to see if that survived or if it also suffered damage.

Very frustrating that a two hour drive would have prevented damage to this machine if the seller had only been willing to let me pick this thing up. 🙁

Seeing those pics is really frustrating.

I bet they insisted it'll be well packed too.

Argh.

Reply 46545 of 47864, by Shponglefan

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SteveC wrote on 2022-10-03, 23:14:

Ah that's real sad 🙁 What will you do? Get some sort of refund?

I'm going to wait and see what happens with the monitor (if and when it shows up), then we'll see.

If the monitor arrives intact at least I may have reason to keep things, albeit I will push for either a partial refund or see if they can supply a replacement case.

But if the monitor is also damaged, then I'll push for a full refund.

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Reply 46546 of 47864, by Shponglefan

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pete8475 wrote on 2022-10-03, 23:35:

Seeing those pics is really frustrating.

I bet they insisted it'll be well packed too.

They did. When I initially told them I wanted to do a pickup, they said they've sent other machines much further with no damage and not to worry.

And in fairness, the packing wasn't terrible. If it had been a normal PC case, it probably would have been fine.

But for something this old and with brittle plastic it really needed to be properly double boxed.

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Reply 46547 of 47864, by bjwil1991

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The other day, I bought a DataExpert EXP8551 ver 1.2 and a replacement Dallas RTC since the original might be flat.

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The board was sold as-is for parts/repairs and I got the board and replacement Dallas RTC today and I got some components out to give this a good testing. I just need to take the 386 board out of the PCS case and place the Pentium board in the case.

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Reply 46549 of 47864, by Veeb0rg

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bjwil1991 wrote on 2022-10-04, 01:17:

The other day, I bought a DataExpert EXP8551 ver 1.2 and a replacement Dallas RTC since the original might be flat.

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The board was sold as-is for parts/repairs and I got the board and replacement Dallas RTC today and I got some components out to give this a good testing. I just need to take the 386 board out of the PCS case and place the Pentium board in the case.

I thought about buying that board just for the white ISA slots.

Reply 46550 of 47864, by Nexxen

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Shponglefan wrote on 2022-10-03, 19:34:
I recently bought an Apple IIe via ebay. I'd hesitated buying online due to the prospect of shipping damage. In this case, the s […]
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I recently bought an Apple IIe via ebay. I'd hesitated buying online due to the prospect of shipping damage. In this case, the seller was only two hours away, so I offered to pick up instead of having it shipped. Frustratingly they responded that they don't do pick ups and that they had shipped out claiming it was "well packaged".

When the computer arrived my fears were confirmed: the outer case had been cracked and broken during shipment.

The monitor itself is still enroute and I have to wait to see if that survived or if it also suffered damage.

Very frustrating that a two hour drive would have prevented damage to this machine if the seller had only been willing to let me pick this thing up. 🙁

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Reply 46551 of 47864, by PcBytes

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Scored this nice Medion/MSI Geforce 4 Ti4200 AGP8x. Needs some cleaning and a bit of bicycle oil on the fan's bearings, but I have high hopes in getting it to work fine. 40ns memory, btw.

Any tips for the GF4 Ti4200? Anything I should be aware of in particular?

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Reply 46552 of 47864, by BitWrangler

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PcBytes wrote on 2022-10-04, 12:03:

Any tips for the GF4 Ti4200? Anything I should be aware of in particular?

Don't look up pencil mods, or you'll waste a year trying to get a 20,000 score on 3DMark2001SE... be happy with 19,450.... (Normal at stock clocks is more like 8-10k btw depending on CPU) No particular gotchas though, 4200 is a stout card, caps might be getting tired by now, but that goes for everything 10+ years old.

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Reply 46553 of 47864, by PcBytes

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I was sane enough to not try any pencil mods on Athlon XPs, so I'm good on that regard 😀

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Reply 46554 of 47864, by Meatball

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Found and bought this Voodoo4 4500 listed as a Voodoo3 2000.

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Reply 46557 of 47864, by Radical Vision

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Meatball wrote on 2022-10-04, 14:25:

Found and bought this Voodoo4 4500 listed as a Voodoo3 2000.

Nice found for sure.. Let me guess u did pay very good price of like 100-130$ since was listed as Voodoo III 2K.. Voodoo IV 4.5K usually sells for like 300-400$ i think..

stef80 wrote on 2022-10-04, 14:40:

Two notches on AGP connector are dead giveaway. Was this the only Voodoo with AGP 4x compatibility? (at least physical)

Nah there was Voodoo 5 5000 that had also universal AGP slot.. There are some indications of some rare V5 5500 with also universal AGP slot... But is whatever since many boards of that time period 1999-2000-2001 did have on them Universal AGP slot so in the end does not matter at all...

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Reply 46558 of 47864, by Meatball

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Radical Vision wrote on 2022-10-04, 15:48:

Nice found for sure.. Let me guess u did pay very good price of like 100-130$ since was listed as Voodoo III 2K.. Voodoo IV 4.5K usually sells for like 300-400$ i think..

Yes; something like that, heh.

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