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Reply 27800 of 34294, by doaks80

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I have a chance to get a Power Mac G4 in good optical and technical condition for around 20 USD incl. the system installation discs. I have never owned a Mac, is that considered to be a good price? Are these systems worth it? I just realized, they are all over the place on classified ads and eBay and can't really figure out if these systems are good or not. Are they fun to fiddle around with? Do they work out of the box with USB keyboard/mice? Do they require a VGA adapter like these super old Macintoshs? So much questions, so little Mac knowledge... 😵

Did you play mac games in the mid 90s? If not then no, as every game on the mac in the late 90s onwards was also on PC. However if you have a thing for hypercard based black and white games and lode runner and the original prince of persia...then maybe. Of course they all run under emulation on the g4, so you might as well run a mac emulator on windows, or find an earlier g3 imac with system9, or an even earlier model. Note old mac games basically suck....but have big nostalgia value for people who went to school in the 90s, as we used them more than PCs.

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Reply 27801 of 34294, by arncht

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i remember to 1993 (94?) - our school got a Mac. I was like a spaceship, compared to the average PCs in the high school (286-486 w/o sound card, etc). Basically nobody could use it, just showed it. 😀

it looked like this (or similar), with a lot of ram (24m maybe), high resolution educational game (not 320x200).

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Reply 27802 of 34294, by retardware

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doaks80 wrote:
blurks wrote:

I have a chance to get a Power Mac G4 ... Are these systems worth it? ...

... every game on the mac in the late 90s onwards was also on PC.

The very first G4 generation also was the last one to be able to run MacOS 9.22.
For the reasons explained by doaks, there is no point in keeping any newer mac than this very first G4, if your goal is to play games that weren't available in the PC world.

Reply 27803 of 34294, by yawetaG

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doaks80 wrote:
blurks wrote:

I have a chance to get a Power Mac G4 in good optical and technical condition for around 20 USD incl. the system installation discs. I have never owned a Mac, is that considered to be a good price? Are these systems worth it? I just realized, they are all over the place on classified ads and eBay and can't really figure out if these systems are good or not. Are they fun to fiddle around with? Do they work out of the box with USB keyboard/mice? Do they require a VGA adapter like these super old Macintoshs? So much questions, so little Mac knowledge... 😵

Did you play mac games in the mid 90s? If not then no, as every popular, normal commercial game on the mac in the late 90s onwards was also on PC.

Loads of shareware games that were only available on the Mac, including some that were included in Apple's official pre-installed software.

But well, PowerMac G4s (and G5s) are the last PowerPC Macs, and are the only factory Macs that can run both 68k code and PowerPC code from within OS X (if it's installed), because PowerPC Mac OS X includes Classic, which can run classic Mac programs.

They work out of the box with USB keyboards and mice, although you'll want to pick up an Apple(-compatible) keyboard for the best user experience. Skip Apple mice, they suck - also only a single button, while thrid-party USB mice with two buttons are supported right out of the box.

IIRC, no VGA adapter required. Some even included DVI ports before they became standard on PCs.

Reply 27804 of 34294, by blurks

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Thanks for the information. Will pick up the unit later. Curious to see which specs the system has. Seller provided some photos which indicate a Power Mac G4 Quicksilver according to apple-history.com, but the exact specs are unknown until pickup. Also I'm not really into gaming anymore, I just want to play around with its OS and see how the Mac user experience is to me as I totally missed it when I very early on decided to be a x86 PC guy...

Reply 27805 of 34294, by Shagittarius

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I have a G4 quicksilver that I picked up for 10$ and also a mac mini that has a custom installer to run 9.22. My opinion now is that with both the G4 and the mac mini compatiability issues exist for running a lot of early games equally. I would say get the appropriate mac G4 mini and install 9.22 on it. It will be much faster take up less space and the only caveat is that you have to plug in the sound out plug to get audio (the internal speaker wont work).

Here is a link to the mac mini project:
http://macos9lives.com/smforum/index.php?topic=4365.0

I dual boot with true 9.22 and the last version of OSX that supported PPC macs,leopard? I wouldn't care if the G4 quicksilver died the mini does everything that does and faster.

Reply 27806 of 34294, by blurks

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OK, it's a Power Mac G4 Quicksilver (933 MHz, DVD, GF4 MX, 256 MB RAM upgraded to 768 MB, 60 GB HDD) in immaculate optical condition. It even has the protective stickers on the drive bays. A little dusty on the inside but that's to be expected. Works great with MacOS 9.2.2. Seller was so kind to provide the original set of system disks and the power chord. Definitely one of the best looking systems in my opinion. Not bad for 20 bucks.

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Reply 27807 of 34294, by schlang

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Definitely one of the worst looking systems in my opinion. Crapple, what do you expect

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Reply 27808 of 34294, by arncht

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schlang wrote:

Definitely one of the worst looking systems in my opinion. Crapple, what do you expect

Same 😀 it looks cheap, the alloy version was great.

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Reply 27810 of 34294, by liqmat

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blurks wrote:

OK, it's a Power Mac G4 Quicksilver (933 MHz, DVD, GF4 MX, 256 MB RAM upgraded to 768 MB, 60 GB HDD) in immaculate optical condition. It even has the protective stickers on the drive bays. A little dusty on the inside but that's to be expected. Works great with MacOS 9.2.2. Seller was so kind to provide the original set of system disks and the power chord. Definitely one of the best looking systems in my opinion. Not bad for 20 bucks.

Not an Apple fan, BUT a good deal regardless. You're right, that's in great shape.

Reply 27811 of 34294, by hard1k

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Very happy day today as I've finally completed my humble collection of my favorite boxed Intel CPUs by adding these two mint new-in-box Pentium III Xeon's 900/2M/2.8V (SL5D3):

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Reply 27812 of 34294, by SpectriaForce

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blurks wrote:

OK, it's a Power Mac G4 Quicksilver (933 MHz, DVD, GF4 MX, 256 MB RAM upgraded to 768 MB, 60 GB HDD) in immaculate optical condition. It even has the protective stickers on the drive bays. A little dusty on the inside but that's to be expected. Works great with MacOS 9.2.2. Seller was so kind to provide the original set of system disks and the power chord. Definitely one of the best looking systems in my opinion. Not bad for 20 bucks.

It’s only worth € 20 for a reason in this case 😊

The good thing is that everyone has their own interests. It would become very boring and costly if everyone would collect e.g. 3dfx Voodoo 5 cards.

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Reply 27813 of 34294, by brostenen

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Bought an Commodore64 Breadbin model from the netherlands on eBay, and one hour later the seller cancelled my order.
The seller said that he just sold it to someone else. DUDE WHAT GIVES!!! 😢 😢

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Reply 27814 of 34294, by bjwil1991

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Some sellers are jerks. The item I won on eBay said in the listing was supposed to be shipped via USPS, however, it's FedEx, which I loathe entirely. Hope my item gets sent from FedEx to USPS since I lost good hardware years ago from neglect by FedEx and UPS (organizing was bad).

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Reply 27815 of 34294, by Merovign

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blurks wrote:

Which alloy version?

The Powermac G5: https://www.macstories.net/mac/the-mighty-power-mac-g5/

Thing was a freakin' piece of art. It's too bad so many of the hot ones were water-cooled and leaked, it can be hard to find a dual 2.7GHz or quad 2.5GHz.

I have a Dual 2.7 but it completely ate itself (before I got it) because of the water cooling. Kind of have a small hope cheap replacements will fall into my lap but not yet.

Reply 27816 of 34294, by wiretap

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That's weird, I loathe USPS since they can't deliver a package without running it over with the truck first and shipping it through 7 unnecessary states. 😵

Anyhow, here's my latest purchase.. Asus GeForce 4 Ti 4600 V8460ULTRA. Seller photo, looks like it has had the cooler replaced with an OEM GeForce4 cooler -- which I'll swap out for a Thermaltake G4-VGA cooler and RAM heatsinks. My last GeForce4 Ti 4600 I bought was DoA, so hopefully this one works. I got it for under $40 w/ 8% Ebay Bucks and it claims it is tested/working from a 30-day money back return policy.
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Reply 27817 of 34294, by brostenen

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Merovign wrote:
The Powermac G5: https://www.macstories.net/mac/the-mighty-power-mac-g5/ […]
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blurks wrote:

Which alloy version?

The Powermac G5: https://www.macstories.net/mac/the-mighty-power-mac-g5/

Thing was a freakin' piece of art. It's too bad so many of the hot ones were water-cooled and leaked, it can be hard to find a dual 2.7GHz or quad 2.5GHz.

I have a Dual 2.7 but it completely ate itself (before I got it) because of the water cooling. Kind of have a small hope cheap replacements will fall into my lap but not yet.

You do know what "Alloy" means?
It is not a specific material, it is the specific combination of material's. (It can be bronze, brazz or solder)

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My guess is that you have been thinking of aluminium, and not alloy.

Don't eat stuff off a 15 year old never cleaned cpu cooler.
Those cakes make you sick....

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Reply 27818 of 34294, by brostenen

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bjwil1991 wrote:

Some sellers are jerks. The item I won on eBay said in the listing was supposed to be shipped via USPS, however, it's FedEx, which I loathe entirely. Hope my item gets sent from FedEx to USPS since I lost good hardware years ago from neglect by FedEx and UPS (organizing was bad).

What I do not understand, is why on earth relist it, when it was already picked up by a local buyer?
It is like sellers on Amibay, neglecting to flag their sales add, as sold. Freaking frustrating.
And yes. I do know that you have to write a moderator to change it, yet +6 months after sale?

Naaa... Can't be a bad moderator, or can it be? Sure it is never the seller.

Don't eat stuff off a 15 year old never cleaned cpu cooler.
Those cakes make you sick....

My blog: http://to9xct.blogspot.dk

001100 010010 011110 100001 101101 110011

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Reply 27819 of 34294, by doaks80

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brostenen wrote:

Bought an Commodore64 Breadbin model from the netherlands on eBay, and one hour later the seller cancelled my order.
The seller said that he just sold it to someone else. DUDE WHAT GIVES!!! 😢 😢

Might have been listed elsewhere or in a pawn shop.

k6-3+ 400 / s3 virge DX+voodoo1 / awe32(32mb)
via c3 866 / s3 savage4+voodoo2 sli / audigy1+awe64(8mb)
athlon xp 3200+ / voodoo5 5500 / diamond mx300
pentium4 3400 / geforce fx5950U / audigy2 ZS
core2duo E8500 / radeon HD5850 / x-fi titanium