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Reply 29340 of 37074, by cyclone3d

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Yet another mysterious Japanese Yamaha CD-ROM: […]
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Yet another mysterious Japanese Yamaha CD-ROM:

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This is a disc version of an old online music magazine by Yamaha (and longer ago it was on paper), with extra software thrown in:
- Midplug control for XG v1.01b-J and Midplug for XG v1.01-J (both PC, I guess the first is the beta version) and v1.10 for Mac
- S-YG20T trial softsynth (PC-only)
- S-YXG50 trial softsynth (Mac and PC)
- S-YXG100 trial softsynth (PC)
- SoundVQ (Mac and PC)
- XGWorks v3.01 Trial (PC)
- RakuRaku-whatever and some other program of which I can't read the name (both PC)
- A folder titled "Digicame-Trial" (oopsie by Yamaha? 😲 ) that contains Acrobat Reader, MA71w (which is a Yamaha product code, no clue what software it refers to), and the Yamaha MIDI driver for Windows 95.
- And various other stuff.

Based on the original price of the CD (2,500 yen) I expect all software to be trial versions.

The CD-ROM has a PC and Mac side.

The Mac side is pretty spare, containing the three Mac programs listed above and also a local copy of one issue of the online magazine and information on various products. One thing has that I haven't seen on other Yamaha CD-ROMs yet is that it contains AWM (not explicitly XG, AWM) MIDI files. AWM is Yamaha's sound generation method use on their more advanced synthesizers at the beginning of the 1990s.

The PC side is more extensive, with Macromedia Flash games with MIDI music (which I haven't tried yet because my vintage PC has no Flash installed) and a lot of software. Unfortunately it appears to have some authoring errors resulting in blank folders and empty files. However, it lacks the AWM files...

Very nice. Can we get an image of that to put up on vogonsdrivers... or at least on my Yamaha XG repository? Do you have any other random XG disks?

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Reply 29342 of 37074, by PcBytes

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Small update on the TK-8498F board I got.

Installed some PARADIGM cache chips from a Freetech SiS-based 486 board I have, along with new caps. No POST, CPU warms up (i486DX-50MHz, SX710) and jumpers set accordingly but other than that it's doing nothing, no beeps or anything.

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Reply 29343 of 37074, by PC Hoarder Patrol

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Already have a few Slot 1 BX boards, but none from QDI, so...

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Reply 29345 of 37074, by xjas

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I responded to an ad for a "massive pile of free electronics" today. I went over and the guy was putting TONS of things out into the driveway for people to take - mostly old radio gear, test equipment, stuff like that. He was losing his rental & had to move in a hurry, so everything had to go. Here's what I snagged:

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^^ two towers of power, four Genexxa speakers (we looked everywhere for the grills for the 3.5" ones but sadly they were nowhere to be found 🙁 ), two classic Gravis joysticks, two 1-in, 4-out VGA splitters (one in box, one loose), a Trinitron monitor and a handy Dell E177FPb.

Also not pictured: an original Xbox (for parts, probably), another sick-as-hell boombox, a Realistic hi-fi EQ, a tape head demagnetizer, and a few other odds & ends. I ended up giving the guy $20, just because I've been in that situation too and it sucks donkey nuts. Fair's fair.

So what's in the towers? Well, for starters, here's the black one:

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^^ an EVGA 3-way SLI board with a Q6600, 8GB OCZ Platinum DDR2 (PC2-6400 5-4-4), two single-slot 8800GTs, a complete brute of an Antec 1kW power supply, and even a pair of hard drives (40GB IDE & 500GB SATA.) Hell yeah. I fired it up and it booted to Vista off the 40GB drive; everything seemed to be working fine. This was a pretty amazing gaming rig back in the day.

And the beige one?

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How about a PIII-500 on a compact BX board with an ISA slot, 128MB SDRAM, a modem, ethernet card, the worst I/O shield I've ever seen, and a 16MB Voodoo3 2000? Not bad!

I fired it up and was greeted by a lovely white Emachines boot screen, so definitely not the original board that was in this case. Which explains why the proprietary LED panel was bodged on to the front. Looks like it was originally built by Seanix, who were a fairly-popular mail-order(?) distributor in this area in the '90s, but somebody "upgraded" it with leftover Emachines parts a couple years later.

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The cases are both pretty dirty and are missing parts, so they're going to E-waste, and I'll probably pass the P3 board onto someone else who needs a retro system, but the Voodoo3 was a nice find!

I'll hang onto the SLI system for now; I have one last project I need to do before I move on from the platform. 😉 What a cool setup though.

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Reply 29346 of 37074, by xjas

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^^ Oh yeah, said boombox. I guess I "collect" these now. Great.

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Reply 29348 of 37074, by yawetaG

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^^ Oh yeah, said boombox. I guess I "collect" these now. Great.

That would not look out of place next to a couple of 1980s Yamaha FM keyboards (same colours). 😀

Reply 29349 of 37074, by yawetaG

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Very nice. Can we get an image of that to put up on vogonsdrivers... or at least on my Yamaha XG repository? Do you have any other random XG disks?

Currently in my possession:

- Internet Singer Song Writer 4 + bonus disk (very extensive JP sequencer with tons of Roland & Yamaha extras)
- Yamaha Special CD-ROM XG selection & others (drivers, MIDI files, Daisuke Asakura pictures 😘 🤣 )
- Yamaha Special Edition '96 (like previous except no pictures)
- XGWorks 4.0 CD that was packed with Hello Music packages
- XGWorks ST (SOL-lite)
- Midradio Music Data Easy Search CD-ROM (PDF-catalogue of online Yamaha service)
- Roland Musi-kun CD-ROM
- Yamaha Visual Arranger (full version)
- CV01 Hatsune Miku demo version
- CV03 Megurine Luka demo version

I really should be getting myself an external disk to store disk images on (before uploading them), eh 😊 ? *adds it to the list of stuff to buy using the holiday allowance*

Reply 29350 of 37074, by xjas

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^^ Oh yeah, said boombox. I guess I "collect" these now. Great.

That would not look out of place next to a couple of 1980s Yamaha FM keyboards (same colours). 😀

L0L, it was literally next to a couple of '80s Yamaha keyboards when I took the picture. They were just out of frame. 😜

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Speaking of Yamaha, @Cyclone3D: is this one you don't have yet?

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^^ Still sealed... Apparently I used this card for a few years & never realized there was anything cool on the disc. Now I have no idea where the card's gone. 🙁

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Reply 29351 of 37074, by jaZz_KCS

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yawetaG wrote:
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cyclone3d wrote:

Very nice. Can we get an image of that to put up on vogonsdrivers... or at least on my Yamaha XG repository? Do you have any other random XG disks?

Currently in my possession:

- Internet Singer Song Writer 4 + bonus disk (very extensive JP sequencer with tons of Roland & Yamaha extras)
- Yamaha Special CD-ROM XG selection & others (drivers, MIDI files, Daisuke Asakura pictures 😘 🤣 )
- Yamaha Special Edition '96 (like previous except no pictures)
- XGWorks 4.0 CD that was packed with Hello Music packages
- XGWorks ST (SOL-lite)
- Midradio Music Data Easy Search CD-ROM (PDF-catalogue of online Yamaha service)
- Roland Musi-kun CD-ROM
- Yamaha Visual Arranger (full version)
- CV01 Hatsune Miku demo version
- CV03 Megurine Luka demo version

I really should be getting myself an external disk to store disk images on (before uploading them), eh 😊 ? *adds it to the list of stuff to buy using the holiday allowance*

Please do image them so they can be added to the VogonsDrivers archive and the XG repository of cyclone3d

Reply 29352 of 37074, by Madowax

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PC Hoarder Patrol wrote:

Already have a few Slot 1 BX boards, but none from QDI, so...

QDI Legend BrillianX IS

I always liked QDI boards, they are not features rich but they are quite reliable. Of the BX series I love this one:

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QDI Legend BrillianX 9

Nice catch btw

Reply 29353 of 37074, by oeuvre

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does it take PIIIs?

I'll need to update the bios but yes, it will support P3 coppermines to 800MHz

w00t nice find!

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Reply 29354 of 37074, by cyclone3d

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yawetaG wrote:
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Very nice. Can we get an image of that to put up on vogonsdrivers... or at least on my Yamaha XG repository? Do you have any other random XG disks?

Currently in my possession:

- Internet Singer Song Writer 4 + bonus disk (very extensive JP sequencer with tons of Roland & Yamaha extras)
- Yamaha Special CD-ROM XG selection & others (drivers, MIDI files, Daisuke Asakura pictures 😘 🤣 )
- Yamaha Special Edition '96 (like previous except no pictures)
- XGWorks 4.0 CD that was packed with Hello Music packages
- XGWorks ST (SOL-lite)
- Midradio Music Data Easy Search CD-ROM (PDF-catalogue of online Yamaha service)
- Roland Musi-kun CD-ROM
- Yamaha Visual Arranger (full version)
- CV01 Hatsune Miku demo version
- CV03 Megurine Luka demo version

I really should be getting myself an external disk to store disk images on (before uploading them), eh 😊 ? *adds it to the list of stuff to buy using the holiday allowance*

Sweet. I'll add all those to my repository if you image them.

Yamaha YMF modified setupds and drivers
Yamaha XG resource repository - updated November 27, 2018
Yamaha YMF7x4 Guide
AW744L II - YMF744 - AOpen Cobra Sound Card - Install SB-Link Header
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Reply 29355 of 37074, by appiah4

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I had never intended to collect any 286/386 era hardware but lately I've just been coming across these things and for good prices, usually below $20 per motherboard. This one here was on sale for $15 only. I grabbed it. Untested and has some battery damage but it should work I would think.

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Has an AMD 286-16 on it and a fixed amount of ram. I wonder how fast that is compared to the current 386SX-25 I am working on right now.. I can't wait to put this in a suitable case alongside my Adlib clone and MusicQuest clone to play some sweet Sierra games 😀

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Only question is, what is that unpopulated IC socket to the north of the CPU? Coprocessor? Hmm..

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Reply 29356 of 37074, by dionb

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Picked this up for a bottle of wine today:
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Power Mac G5 1.8 DP PCI-X. The most powerful Mac you could buy 15 years ago. Also one of the heaviest non-server computers you could buy. My back is not going to be happy with me tomorrow. Upshot: even though my metro this afternoon was very busy, I had my own seat 😉

Reply 29357 of 37074, by mothergoose729

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Picked this up for a bottle of wine today: https://tweakers.net/ext/f/crqEI7C6jh4b1yszqrEAUPyB/full.jpg […]
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Picked this up for a bottle of wine today:
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Power Mac G5 1.8 DP PCI-X. The most powerful Mac you could buy 15 years ago. Also one of the heaviest non-server computers you could buy. My back is not going to be happy with me tomorrow. Upshot: even though my metro this afternoon was very busy, I had my own seat 😉

Apple has always had a penchant for making beautiful machines. I love the chrome, acrylic, and white glossy plastic of the power mac PCs, such a great aesthetic.

Reply 29359 of 37074, by dionb

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Apple has always had a penchant for making beautiful machines. I love the chrome, acrylic, and white glossy plastic of the power mac PCs, such a great aesthetic.

Great - and functional - design. It's not just beautiful, it has thermal/airflow management that puts most enthousiast homebrew stuff to shame, it's effortlessly easy and intuitive to open up and mess around in. But you paid through the teeth for that privilege of course, and the almost religious fanaticism of users was also a bit off-putting. Fortunately neither are an issue here. If it works I still have to figure out what to actually do with it, but a MacOS 10.4 Tiger / Linux dualboot on an SSD is sort of what I'm thinking now.

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Just hooked it up to see what state it was in. Seller told me he'd wanted to wipe the disks and leave a clean install of MacOS, but messed up the latter. Not quite sure why he thought that though, as it booted straight into MacOS 10.5.8. Still urgently needs an SSD, but it's clear the system is in perfect working order 😁