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Reply 29980 of 33296, by xjas

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oh no, now I have to sort through all of these 🤣

Gravis Grip Multiport including 4 gamepads
a bunch of Saitek pads, Logitech Wingman, several other multi-adapters and pads

2x Sidewinder Force Feedback Pro, 1x Sidewinder Joystick
Gravis and several others...

not pictured: I also got a CH Flightstick pro for €1,50 + shipping

...does anyone want to come over and play some games? 😁

I see some interesting stuff there. The Grip setup is really cool & that Interact N64 controller looks a hell of a lot more comfortable than a real N64 pad. Nice score!

I stumbled on this "word processor" for a few bucks today. I say "word processor" but it's clearly a little PC of some kind, booting a bespoke software suite from ROM. Normally I wouldn't bother with something like this, but it was cheap, in exceptionally nice shape, works perfectly, and I just like the way it looks. Great keyboard too.

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The floppy drive seems to need a belt but it's otherwise fully intact. I would love to find some hidden way to get it to boot from floppy, but I don't see anything obvious. Panasonic even called it a "lap top", although they didn't quite commit to it.

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There was some nastiness in the battery compartment, because of course there was, but fortunately it cleaned up OK and doesn't seem to have damaged the plastic. Apparently nicad batteries "leak" into a weird fibrous solid. Now I'm wondering if it has a separate barrel battery on the motherboard I need to worry about. It doesn't seem to have one (there's no clock & no battery-backed RAM saves as far as I can tell) but who knows.

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After confirming it runs without a battery pack, I put the old one in my recycle pile. Yick.

It has a (probably serial) data port on the side & a parallel port for standard printers. There's an option in the menu for connecting it to a "compatible Panasonic typewriter" - apparently you can slave an electronic typewriter to it instead of a printer? Somebody thought that was a great idea.

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The model is KX-WL50. There's very little info about this online. I have no idea what's inside, but I'd bet anything it's an 8088 or Z80 and some fairly off-the-shelf parts. I can't even figure out how to open it; there's no visible screws on the outside, but there are some suspicious screwdriver marks in places where plastic clips are likely to be.

If anyone can find a disassembly manual or even a specs sheet for this thing online, hit me up! Maybe I'm just failing at searching again but I'd love to have some more info on it.

Edit: jesus christ, 1500 pages of pickups. What a lot of obsolete crap. 10/10, keep it up you all. 😉

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Reply 29981 of 33296, by cyclone3d

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xjas wrote:
I stumbled on this "word processor" for a few bucks today. I say "word processor" but it's clearly a little PC of some kind, boo […]
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I stumbled on this "word processor" for a few bucks today. I say "word processor" but it's clearly a little PC of some kind, booting a bespoke software suite from ROM. Normally I wouldn't bother with something like this, but it was cheap, in exceptionally nice shape, works perfectly, and I just like the way it looks. Great keyboard too.

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The floppy drive seems to need a belt but it's otherwise fully intact. I would love to find some hidden way to get it to boot from floppy, but I don't see anything obvious. Panasonic even called it a "lap top", although they didn't quite commit to it.

CameraZOOM-20190826171641732.jpg

There was some nastiness in the battery compartment, because of course there was, but fortunately it cleaned up OK and doesn't seem to have damaged the plastic. Apparently nicad batteries "leak" into a weird fibrous solid. Now I'm wondering if it has a separate barrel battery on the motherboard I need to worry about. It doesn't seem to have one (there's no clock & no battery-backed RAM saves as far as I can tell) but who knows.

CameraZOOM-20190826164235952.jpg

After confirming it runs without a battery pack, I put the old one in my recycle pile. Yick.

It has a (probably serial) data port on the side & a parallel port for standard printers. There's an option in the menu for connecting it to a "compatible Panasonic typewriter" - apparently you can slave an electronic typewriter to it instead of a printer? Somebody thought that was a great idea.

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The model is KX-WL50. There's very little info about this online. I have no idea what's inside, but I'd bet anything it's an 8088 or Z80 and some fairly off-the-shelf parts. I can't even figure out how to open it; there's no visible screws on the outside, but there are some suspicious screwdriver marks in places where plastic clips are likely to be.

If anyone can find a disassembly manual or even a specs sheet for this thing online, hit me up! Maybe I'm just failing at searching again but I'd love to have some more info on it.

Found the user manual for the KX-WL55:
https://manualmachine.com/panasonic/kx-wl55/1 … 40-user-manual/

And the printer that goes along with it:
https://manualmachine.com/panasonic/kx-wd55/1 … 50-user-manual/

And a blog post about the same:
http://aboredprogrammer.com/panasonic-wl55-kx-wl55/

KX-WL50 specifications:
http://salestores.com/panasonickxw.html#.XWSRvOhKiUk

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Reply 29982 of 33296, by xjas

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Thanks man! Still doesn't tell me how to open the thing, but I'll take it.

Apparently the WL55 is a slightly revised model with at least one feature mine doesn't have: DOS disk compatibility. Oh well, my drive doesn't work yet anyway...

I don't think it will turn out to be particularly useful as-is, but this thing might make a nice little home for an Arduino or even a Raspberry Pi. Keep the original LCD & keyboard, and interface to them through the GP I/O pins. I'll file that on the list of things I'm never going to have time to do...

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Reply 29983 of 33296, by yawetaG

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xjas wrote:

There was some nastiness in the battery compartment, because of course there was, but fortunately it cleaned up OK and doesn't seem to have damaged the plastic. Apparently nicad batteries "leak" into a weird fibrous solid.

Er, no, that means you just were lucky. Normally they leak all over the place and destroy the battery terminals, which often may look somewhat fine but turn out to be so brittle they shatter upon touch. So better open it up and check for other damage.

Very cool machine, BTW. I would leave it as is, nice piece of history. You may want to trawl through Japanese webpages and see whether it can do more than just load stuff from the ROM, because it sure looks like a Western version of a Japanese "Office Assistant" machine (and some of those can do a lot, including sometimes play simple games).

Reply 29984 of 33296, by imi

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found a scrap box locally for once...

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whyyyy 😢

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Reply 29986 of 33296, by Predator99

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Well if you're brave enough you can try to replace the chip, they're easily available on eBay

Imi, also bought from the "screwdriver-man"? 😉 my cards look similar.

Deksor you are right: 355-0026-320 and 355-0026-220 are still available. And they seem to be exchangable. That means there is still hope for my screwdrivered 5500 too.

Reply 29987 of 33296, by Predator99

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yawetaG wrote:
xjas wrote:

There was some nastiness in the battery compartment, because of course there was, but fortunately it cleaned up OK and doesn't seem to have damaged the plastic. Apparently nicad batteries "leak" into a weird fibrous solid.

Er, no, that means you just were lucky. Normally they leak all over the place and destroy the battery terminals, which often may look somewhat fine but turn out to be so brittle they shatter upon touch. So better open it up and check for other damage.

Very cool machine, BTW. I would leave it as is, nice piece of history. You may want to trawl through Japanese webpages and see whether it can do more than just load stuff from the ROM, because it sure looks like a Western version of a Japanese "Office Assistant" machine (and some of those can do a lot, including sometimes play simple games).

Look nice. Would also keep it as is. If it turns to be a standard 8088: Maybe you can exchange the ROM to make it boot DOS?

Reply 29988 of 33296, by dionb

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imi wrote:
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found a scrap box locally for once...

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whyyyy 😢

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I think I spotted that one for sale. Despite really wanting a V4, I decided against it... looks like a good call.

Make sure the seller knows how much value he destroyed.

Reply 29989 of 33296, by mpe

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Got two GUS cards for my collection - GUS MAX and GUS P&P Pro.

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I already own a GUS classic, so hope I will be eventually able to trace down also GUS ACE, GUS extreme and possibly non-pro P&P to own the complete family.

I plan to picture frame them as these are too troublesome to use in an actual PC 😀

These things are getting really expensive these days. Funnily back in 1995 I used GUS ACE since it was cheap. Now it costs a small fortune.

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Reply 29990 of 33296, by cyclone3d

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mpe wrote:
Got two GUS cards for my collection - GUS MAX and GUS P&P Pro. […]
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Got two GUS cards for my collection - GUS MAX and GUS P&P Pro.

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I already own a GUS classic, so hope I will be eventually able to trace down also GUS ACE, GUS extreme and possibly non-pro P&P to own the complete family.

I plan to picture frame them as these are too troublesome to use in an actual PC 😀

These things are getting really expensive these days. Funnily back in 1995 I used GUS ACE since it was cheap. Now it costs a small fortune.

Very nice.

But why do you think they are too troublesome to use?

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Reply 29991 of 33296, by imi

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dionb wrote:

I think I spotted that one for sale. Despite really wanting a V4, I decided against it... looks like a good call.

Make sure the seller knows how much value he destroyed.

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Imi, also bought from the "screwdriver-man"? 😉 my cards look similar.

haha yeah, their kind seems to be spreading... I jumped on it since it doesn't happen often that one pops up locally, and since I didn't have to pay an arm and a leg for shipping for once, this one wasn't all that expensive, the damage was not apparent from the sellers picture, but I knew I took a gamble when I saw all the heatsinks being popped off.

I'm trying to get into contact with a few people around and I'm seriously considering trying to get this card repaired... going the check out the PCB for any other damage since the bracket was pretty bent too.

but spending another $30 for the chip and then some for getting it soldered is another gamble in case it still won't work.

Reply 29992 of 33296, by RandomStranger

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It's been a while again since I've been here. Last week I've been browsing a local online flea market and found something listed as an "Inno3D Innovision PCI videocard" untested, but just for 1.60$ which with shipping came out to be about 4.30$ total. I wanted one for a while for my 450MHz Deschutes build but 100$ on ebay wasn't the price I'd pay with a smile. It arrived today but sadly I have to wait until the weekend to check if it actually works. 😒

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Over all it looks to be in decent shape. A bit dirty, there is a little bit of spider web in one of the heatsinks so I hope for the best.

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Reply 29994 of 33296, by Merovign

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Great, another "word processor" I am now compelled to find.

I love those funky semi-computers, at least the ones that have screens (not that one-line-screen typewriter jobby).

I won't be in the market for a couple of months but I hope to find a good example of one of the late 80s/early 90s CRT word processors, especially one of the z80 machines because CPM, but it will depend on what shows up.

Also looks like 3dfx cards are falling from the sky, of course, timing!

Reply 29995 of 33296, by canthearu

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Because I need another ISA sound card, the other 10 I have in my collection just isn't enough!

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At least I get them cheaply.

Reply 29997 of 33296, by bjwil1991

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Picked up a nice condition Asus P2B V1.12 Slot 1 motherboard. Love the build quality of Asus motherboard. Happy with this one! […]
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Picked up a nice condition Asus P2B V1.12 Slot 1 motherboard. Love the build quality of Asus motherboard. Happy with this one!

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I have one similar to that, except 2 ISA, 5 PCI, 1 AGP, and 4 RAM slots (up to 1GB supported), P2B-F, except the board is erratic at times: 1 long beep, pause, repeat, or no beeps. Need to replace the RAM and CPU slots and I flashed the BIOS chips with different build numbers.

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Reply 29998 of 33296, by Intel486dx33

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keropi wrote:
combo complete! :D […]
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combo complete! 😁

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Wow, Very nice. How many turtle beach ISA cards do you have?
I only have a Monte Carlo.

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^ actually atm this and a malibu nothing more in the TB front

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