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Re: Bought these (retro) hardware today

Postby kithylin » 2016-11-11 @ 08:29

Unknown_K wrote:I was looking at that board (seller also had a gateway single CPU PPro board for sale) but decided I didn't need another Dual PPro board (Have 2 already).
You will need 2 VRMs for that thing and PPro heatsinks are getting harder to find (so are cheap CPU's actually which is what made me not bid).

Same seller did have an old Laser 486sx server AMI BIOS ISA board with 16x30 pin SIMM RAM slots and socket for a 486DX and Weitek FPU that I did bid on and win for $11 shipped.


I found another listing where someone had a lot of new / oem-tray sets of P-Pro 200's with 1MB cache for about $34 each and had "more than 10 available" so it doesn't seem too difficult to get a set if I wanted em. I'm not even trying to get it up and running at the moment I just was going to bid on the board and secure a working one because it was cheap. I'll get chips for it later this year or next year.

luckybob wrote:These chips will draw from the 5v line, but aren't extremely heavy on power. A decent quality supply will be just fine. I used a new corsair 430w for almost everything.


Alrighty. Thanks for confirming this for me.
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Bought a single JBL 4410 loudspeaker

Postby Kreshna Aryaguna Nurzaman » 2016-11-11 @ 10:12

Just bought a single JBL 4410 studio monitor. Yes, single speaker. It would make a great center channel for my JBL 120Ti mains. Yes, there are slight difference, like the 4410's use JBL 035Ti tweeters while the 120Ti's use JBL 044Ti tweeters, but they should sound similar enough. I would originally go for JBL 4412 instead, since its frequency response curve is more similar to that of 120Ti's, but it seems 4412 wouldn't make a good center speaker, because it has asymmetrical off-axis response curve.

For games, I would connect the speakers to my Yamaha RX-V663 AV receiver. For music, however, I'd connect it to my Sansui-AU-7900, which is a stereo amplifier. But how would you connect L-C-R (Left-Center-Right) speaker to a stereo amplifier, then? Using Hafler Circuit, like a Dynaco QD-2 I've just bought on ebay. The QD-2 hasn't arrived yet though.

So, without further ado...

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Re: Bought these (retro) hardware today

Postby amnesia » 2016-11-11 @ 10:15

It's time to start programming like its 197x ;-)

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Also, a nice IBM - NOS/unused - keyboard.

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Lastly, I found a media for my newly acquired LS-120 drive. Where they all with lifetime warranty?

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Re: Bought these (retro) hardware today

Postby keropi » 2016-11-11 @ 10:29

got this nice 386DX/40 mobo:

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for some reason it reports a "Cyrix M6 CPU"

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mobo model is "364 v1.1" will try and locate it , battery damage is zero luckily

edit: bleh I can't find anything on it and there are some jumpers that I have no idea what they do :dead:
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Re: Bought these (retro) hardware today

Postby kanecvr » 2016-11-11 @ 10:46

I have a similar mainboard, but with a ALi chipset. Online I found this - similar layout, sans the cache sockets:

http://th99.classic-computing.de/src/m/M-O/31690.htm

My board is labeled 386AD-III:

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It's a little weird how your board sees the CPU as a Cyrix M6 :P
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Re: Bought these (retro) hardware today

Postby stamasd » 2016-11-11 @ 13:51

I'm going a bit crazy with upgrades to the Thinkpad 770Z.

Ordered a docking unit - the Selectadock III, and the Selectabase 770 which is required to connect the laptop to the dock. Surprisingly the Selectabase was much harder to find than the dock and almost twice as expensive. But with those on hand I will be able to transform this system into a little monster. The dock provides internal bays for devices (1 Ultrabay for Thinkpad-only devices, and a regular 5.25" bay), SCSI adapter with both internal and external connectors, USB hub and, best of all, 3 PCI and 2 ISA slots (2 pairs of shared ISA/PCI and 1 independent PCI). :)

I think I'm about to build a "mobile" juggernaut here. I say "mobile" because the laptop by itself is barely portable (big and heavy), but with the base+dock it will become desktop-sized and over 15lbs total. :)

I have some plans for those PCI and ISA slots... perhaps a TNT2+V2, or a V3 instead; and also an ISA sound card. Or just 2xV2 SLI using the internal Trident video... hmmm. There are also reports from back in 2001 that a V5-5500 PCI fits and works fine in this dock, but I don't have one.

Overall I'm pleased, and I managed to stay below $100 for the whole system (laptop+selectabase+selectadock).

(edit) Attaching the Selectadock III user's guide since it wasn't easy to find, for further reference
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Re: Bought these (retro) hardware today

Postby nemail » 2016-11-11 @ 14:55

luckybob wrote:@nemail

Oh what a nice system! The sound card is a nice find! They are typically very rare! I'd say the sound card alone is worth more than what you paid for everything.

There are MANY, MANY quirks of this system. If you ever need some 1 on 1 advice, hit me up. I have 3 of these machines and I like to think I know them well. the reference disk mentioned is available here: http://www.ibmfiles.com/ps2disketteimages.htm error codes are here: http://www.tavi.co.uk/ps2pages/ohland/error_02.htm


Thanks for that offer, actually I think I'm gonna need you already :D

When the Audiovation card is installed, it said that it needs the ADF so I installed the "option disk", rebooted and ran the automatic configuration.
but after that, it still reports an error and says that I have to run the tests, if I didn't install or uninstall any cards.

when I pull the audiovation card out, it immediately boots to a Windows 95 installation.
errorcode is always 16500 (if audiovation is installed)...
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Re: Bought these (retro) hardware today

Postby TheAbandonwareGuy » 2016-11-11 @ 15:03

Ok. I've actually had this system for a week but mental health issues have kept me from posting about it.

It's a Compaq Deskpro EN with a 933MHz PentiumIII (according to the start up console for American McGee's Alice it's a Copper mine), 128MB PC133 SDRAM (Expandable to 512MB via 3 DIMM slots), Intel PremierSound (which only provides DOS Audio under Windows 98's DOSBOX @ channel settings 5-1-5, if I restart into DOS mode I can't get anything to detect audio. I suspect I'm short a driver, anyone got any suggestions?),
Standard 3.5 Floppy, and a 52x CD-ROM. It's currently running Windows 98 Second Edition. I have the missing piece to the front panel as well.

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The entire inside of the case smells like mold. Nothing visible and she runs solid though. The motherboard is an i820 Socket 370 with 5 PCI and 1 AGP. The case is ATX but the motherboard is somewhere in-between ATX and mATX. The AGP is unkeyed Universal which is nice meaning I can run anything from a RIVA128 to a 7800GS in it.

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Currently I've installed some networking cards, my ASUS Falcon2 TV Tuner, and a Jaton Geforce2MX 32MB PCI. I plan to get a Geforce2GTS, a DXR3 DVD Decoder (along with a DVD Drive), and a Soundblaster128 for this system since those were the parts listed as "top" for this model in the OEM PDF files. I may also go for a 1.4GHZ Tualatin. I'm not sure if this motherboard would accept it though. It's also probably worth it to upgrade the memory to 256MB.

On board sound is really Skippy along with the flaky DOS audio. Not sure if it's the drivers or the hardware. Either way once I get the SB128 hopefully that fixs all of the above. Still if anyone has any suggestions for the PremierSound I'd love to hear them.
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Re: Bought these (retro) hardware today

Postby stamasd » 2016-11-11 @ 15:08

keropi wrote:got this nice 386DX/40 mobo:



for some reason it reports a "Cyrix M6 CPU"



mobo model is "364 v1.1" will try and locate it , battery damage is zero luckily

edit: bleh I can't find anything on it and there are some jumpers that I have no idea what they do :dead:


Nice late 386 motherboard. I have about 3 with this type of layout, (one 386SX, one 486DLC and one 486SX). Good luck finding information of them. Many are known to have fake cache chips (one of mine does) but since your cache is socketed there, the chances of that are low.

Here's a discussion of my motherboard with fake cache (I am jh1523) http://www.vcfed.org/forum/showthread.p ... fake+cache
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Re: Bought these (retro) hardware today

Postby keropi » 2016-11-11 @ 16:24

^that pic you posted over at VCF is mine LOL , I still have the BIOTEQ mobo
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Re: Bought these (retro) hardware today

Postby stamasd » 2016-11-11 @ 16:33

And so after a few years the circle closes. :)
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Re: Bought these (retro) hardware today

Postby kithylin » 2016-11-11 @ 18:23

TheAbandonwareGuy wrote:Ok. I've actually had this system for a week but mental health issues have kept me from posting about it.

It's a Compaq Deskpro EN with a 933MHz PentiumIII (according to the start up console for American McGee's Alice it's a Copper mine), 128MB PC133 SDRAM (Expandable to 512MB via 3 DIMM slots), Intel PremierSound (which only provides DOS Audio under Windows 98's DOSBOX @ channel settings 5-1-5, if I restart into DOS mode I can't get anything to detect audio. I suspect I'm short a driver, anyone got any suggestions?),
Standard 3.5 Floppy, and a 52x CD-ROM. It's currently running Windows 98 Second Edition. I have the missing piece to the front panel as well.

.....

The entire inside of the case smells like mold. Nothing visible and she runs solid though. The motherboard is an i820 Socket 370 with 5 PCI and 1 AGP. The case is ATX but the motherboard is somewhere in-between ATX and mATX. The AGP is unkeyed Universal which is nice meaning I can run anything from a RIVA128 to a 7800GS in it.

.....

Currently I've installed some networking cards, my ASUS Falcon2 TV Tuner, and a Jaton Geforce2MX 32MB PCI. I plan to get a Geforce2GTS, a DXR3 DVD Decoder (along with a DVD Drive), and a Soundblaster128 for this system since those were the parts listed as "top" for this model in the OEM PDF files. I may also go for a 1.4GHZ Tualatin. I'm not sure if this motherboard would accept it though. It's also probably worth it to upgrade the memory to 256MB.

On board sound is really Skippy along with the flaky DOS audio. Not sure if it's the drivers or the hardware. Either way once I get the SB128 hopefully that fixs all of the above. Still if anyone has any suggestions for the PremierSound I'd love to hear them.


Just a suggestion.... but.. if you resized your pictures to fit into the forums, we could actually see them.. :D
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Re: Bought these (retro) hardware today

Postby luckybob » 2016-11-11 @ 18:38

kithylin wrote:Just a suggestion.... but.. if you resized your pictures to fit into the forums, we could actually see them.. :D


Or just buy a bigger screen.
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Re: Bought these (retro) hardware today

Postby TheAbandonwareGuy » 2016-11-11 @ 18:39

kithylin wrote:
TheAbandonwareGuy wrote:Ok. I've actually had this system for a week but mental health issues have kept me from posting about it.

It's a Compaq Deskpro EN with a 933MHz PentiumIII (according to the start up console for American McGee's Alice it's a Copper mine), 128MB PC133 SDRAM (Expandable to 512MB via 3 DIMM slots), Intel PremierSound (which only provides DOS Audio under Windows 98's DOSBOX @ channel settings 5-1-5, if I restart into DOS mode I can't get anything to detect audio. I suspect I'm short a driver, anyone got any suggestions?),
Standard 3.5 Floppy, and a 52x CD-ROM. It's currently running Windows 98 Second Edition. I have the missing piece to the front panel as well.

.....

The entire inside of the case smells like mold. Nothing visible and she runs solid though. The motherboard is an i820 Socket 370 with 5 PCI and 1 AGP. The case is ATX but the motherboard is somewhere in-between ATX and mATX. The AGP is unkeyed Universal which is nice meaning I can run anything from a RIVA128 to a 7800GS in it.

.....

Currently I've installed some networking cards, my ASUS Falcon2 TV Tuner, and a Jaton Geforce2MX 32MB PCI. I plan to get a Geforce2GTS, a DXR3 DVD Decoder (along with a DVD Drive), and a Soundblaster128 for this system since those were the parts listed as "top" for this model in the OEM PDF files. I may also go for a 1.4GHZ Tualatin. I'm not sure if this motherboard would accept it though. It's also probably worth it to upgrade the memory to 256MB.

On board sound is really Skippy along with the flaky DOS audio. Not sure if it's the drivers or the hardware. Either way once I get the SB128 hopefully that fixs all of the above. Still if anyone has any suggestions for the PremierSound I'd love to hear them.


Just a suggestion.... but.. if you resized your pictures to fit into the forums, we could actually see them.. :D



I thought I did. Im on mobile, imgur upload must have messed up. Oh well, there only 26 megapixel
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Re: Bought these (retro) hardware today

Postby luckybob » 2016-11-11 @ 18:40

TheAbandonwareGuy wrote:I thought I did. Im on mobile, imgur upload must have messed up. Oh well, there only 26 megapixel


*They're

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Re: Bought these (retro) hardware today

Postby debs3759 » 2016-11-11 @ 19:27

SW-SSG wrote:
debs3759 wrote:More accurately, all Celeron on socket 478 have Northwood-128 core. ...

Incorrect! There are s478 Willamette-128 Celerons also.


I stand corrected :)

SL68F is a 2.0 GHz Willamette-128 Celeron
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Re: Bought these (retro) hardware today

Postby kithylin » 2016-11-11 @ 19:29

luckybob wrote:
kithylin wrote:Just a suggestion.... but.. if you resized your pictures to fit into the forums, we could actually see them.. :D


Or just buy a bigger screen.


I'm already on 1080p screens everywhere, that's the standard today. Everything should at least fit that.
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Re: Bought these (retro) hardware today

Postby debs3759 » 2016-11-11 @ 19:31

Kamerat wrote:
SW-SSG wrote:
debs3759 wrote:More accurately, all Celeron on socket 478 have Northwood-128 core. ...

Incorrect! There are s478 Willamette-128 Celerons also.

...and Prescotts: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_I ... 2890_nm.29


In my post I also said

Celeron D are Prescott-256. Both are built around the Netburst architecture.


Celeron by another name :)
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Re: Bought these (retro) hardware today

Postby TheAbandonwareGuy » 2016-11-11 @ 19:52

kithylin wrote:
luckybob wrote:
kithylin wrote:Just a suggestion.... but.. if you resized your pictures to fit into the forums, we could actually see them.. :D


Or just buy a bigger screen.


I'm already on 1080p screens everywhere, that's the standard today. Everything should at least fit that.


Those images wouldn't even fit on a 4k screen in Fullscreen mode. There slightly larger than that.
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Re: Bought these (retro) hardware today

Postby James-F » 2016-11-11 @ 19:59

I'm building another Socket 7 machine.

PC Partner 35-8333-04, Intel 430TX:
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I'm also modding one of these to include -5v using a LM7905.
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I also bought a bunch of related stuff like heatsink, fan, USB PCS cards, USB header bracket, Serial+Parallel Bracket, PS/2 to AT adapter, and more.
I already have CPUs, video cards, sound cards, network card, HDD, CD-ROM, to choose from.

One can't have enough Pentiums, don't you know? :cool:
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