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Reply 16220 of 52819, by Unknown_K

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What a purchase! I just bought an IBM PS/2 Model 60 tower for 50$. It was listed locally and there was hardly anyone interested. […]
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What a purchase! I just bought an IBM PS/2 Model 60 tower for 50$. It was listed locally and there was hardly anyone interested. I thought it would score higher price, but no.

It's a 286 processor (PGA package) @ 10mhz. I don't know if there are any interesting expansions. It comes with 2(!) IBM mono CRT monitors and original Model M Keyboard (silver label).

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I like the old PS/2towers as well (model 80's, 60's 65sx and 95). There are some decent MCA cards you can install as well as CPU upgrades. Wish I had a nice mono IBM monitor for them.

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Reply 16221 of 52819, by tikoellner

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Mine came with 2 mono crt's but I wish it was a colour one.

By processor card do you mean that this system can be upgraded to something past 286@10MHz? Thought it was not possible 😀

Reply 16222 of 52819, by kixs

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Mine came with 2 mono crt's but I wish it was a colour one.

By processor card do you mean that this system can be upgraded to something past 286@10MHz? Thought it was not possible 😀

Look here:

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Kingston SX Now! CPU upgrades for different IBM computers (IBM PS/2 Model 50, 60...) from USA
http://www.ebay.com/itm/386-CPU-math-coproces … 4-/152465686920

Be fast... 😉

Requests are also possible... /msg kixs

Reply 16223 of 52819, by Unknown_K

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There are the CPU upgrades that plug into the CPU socket like the Kingston upgrades listed above, and there are MCA cards (386) that plug into a MCA slot and take over the system made my McMaster or MicroMaster whatever they are called.

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Reply 16224 of 52819, by Skyscraper

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A week ago I made a post in this thread about a very expensive Socket 939 motherboard I bought on Ebay, the motherboard cost me 80 euro.

I asked if anyone wanted to take a guess what Socket 939 motherboard I think is worth that kind of money but no one dared (-d+c). 😁

Today I got the motherboard and here it is! The DFI LanPARTY CFX3200 ATI (AMD) RD580 motherboard! In my opinion this is the second most valuable/rare Socket 939 motherboard after the DFI LanPARTY nF4 SLI-DR Venus Limited Edition (but they are not necessarily second best and best).

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As often with Ebay, never trust what the store selling the item says...

Even when buying from a large store with only good feedback you can still get an item in less than stellar condition. Ebay should not let sellers use "Potato photos"!

When a store writes stuff like this I'm going to make a noise when I get an item with damages.

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- gebraucht
- geprüft, technisch einwandfrei
- optischer Zustand: Gebrauchsspuren sind vorhanden
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This capacitor does seem to have some issues with its "optischer Zustand"! It looks even worse IRL as the image dosn't show just how deformed it actually is.

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Last edited by Skyscraper on 2017-03-14, 19:31. Edited 1 time in total.

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Reply 16225 of 52819, by schlang

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that's why you always pay with paypal and directly open a claim with them

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Reply 16226 of 52819, by xplus93

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Got a free case off craigslist to put my PIII 1Ghz build into and ended up getting some decent P4 stuff. It came with an ASUS P4PE board with RAID controller, SB Live 24-Bit, an FX 5200. But what was really sweet was a P4 HT 3.06 533Mhz. So, I put my 6800 GS in there instead and i'll wait for another case to put my PIII into. Then I head to the thrift store and got even luckier. Found two latitudes for 2 dollars each. A D630C that POSTs and a D620 that's dead. Gonna get batteries, chargers, caddies and a new MB to fix them up. I also found a xircom realport lan/56k to go with my C810 since it had to have those features removed to make room for wifi. Total spent was 6USD.

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Reply 16227 of 52819, by Skyscraper

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that's why you always pay with paypal and directly open a claim with them

Paid with Pay Pal, check!

I'm not going to open a claim with Pal Pal unless I can't get the Ebay store to give me a partial refund. Unless the motherboard starts acting up I don't even want that much. I will probably be satisfied with getting back 20 out of the 80 euro I paid or something like that.

I'm installing Windows XP at the moment and I'm going to do some stability testing. Even if the motherboard turns out to be working prefectly which I think is likely you do not expect to get a motherboard with a capacitor this deformed by physical violence when buying a motherboard costing €80 from an Ebay store. The capacitor will have to be replaced sooner or later even if it's for no other good reason than a peace of mind and that means replacing all 5 of the same kind. I think asking for an €20 refund is reasonable.

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Old PC: Dual Xeon X5690@4.6GHz, EVGA SR-2, 48GB DDR3R@2000MHz, Intel X25-M. GTX 980ti.
Older PC: K6-3+ 400@600MHz, PC-Chips M577, 256MB SDRAM, AWE64, Voodoo Banshee.

Reply 16228 of 52819, by xplus93

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Skyscraper wrote:
Paid with Pay Pal, check! […]
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schlang wrote:

that's why you always pay with paypal and directly open a claim with them

Paid with Pay Pal, check!

I'm not going to open a claim with Pal Pal unless I can't get the Ebay store to give me a partial refund. Unless the motherboard starts acting up I don't even want that much. I will probably be satisfied with getting back 20 out of the 80 euro or something like that.

I'm installing Windows XP at the moment and I'm going to do some stability testing. Even if the motherboard turns out to work prefectly which I think is likely you do not expect to get a motherboard with a capacitor this deformed by physical violence when buying a motherboard costing €80 from an Ebay store. The capacitor will have to be replaced sooner or later even if it's for no other good reason than a peace of mind and that means replacing all 5 of the same kind, I think asking for an €20 refund is reasonable.

Last time I had to do that the seller banned me afterwards. It was a pressure spot on the LCD of a rare laptop.

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Reply 16229 of 52819, by schlang

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I will probably be satisfied with getting back 20 out of the 80 euro I paid or something like that.

If you can live with that, okay, but I wouldn't pay 80€ for an obviously damaged board. Your comment also sounded rather angry so I am a little bit surprised by your statement - did the Swedish people forget how to complain properly? (would explain your immigration policy though)

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Reply 16230 of 52819, by Skyscraper

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schlang wrote:
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I will probably be satisfied with getting back 20 out of the 80 euro I paid or something like that.

If you can live with that, okay, but I wouldn't pay 80€ for an obviously damaged board. Your comment also sounded rather angry so I am a little bit surprised by your statement - did the Swedish people forget how to complain properly? (would explain your immigration policy though)

You should have seen the message I sent to the store who sold me a beat up Intel PR440FX motherboard with a memory module littered with short circuits from physical damage. The memory module went up in smoke when I tested the motherboard! It seems many of these Ebay stores do not store their items in a proper way, just stacking unprotected motherboards on shelves is a bad idea.

In the end I only asked for a £20 refund out of the £75 I had paid, £10 for the memory and £10 for the hassle. I'm a very reasonable guy, a typical Swede you might say! 😁

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Skyscraper wrote:
Paid with Pay Pal, check! […]
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schlang wrote:

that's why you always pay with paypal and directly open a claim with them

Paid with Pay Pal, check!

I'm not going to open a claim with Pal Pal unless I can't get the Ebay store to give me a partial refund. Unless the motherboard starts acting up I don't even want that much. I will probably be satisfied with getting back 20 out of the 80 euro or something like that.

I'm installing Windows XP at the moment and I'm going to do some stability testing. Even if the motherboard turns out to work prefectly which I think is likely you do not expect to get a motherboard with a capacitor this deformed by physical violence when buying a motherboard costing €80 from an Ebay store. The capacitor will have to be replaced sooner or later even if it's for no other good reason than a peace of mind and that means replacing all 5 of the same kind, I think asking for a €20 refund is reasonable.

Last time I had to do that the seller banned me afterwards. It was a pressure spot on the LCD of a rare laptop.

This will be the second time from this same store and that is out of three items total... The other defect item from the same store was an AWE32 with a short circuit muting the EMU8000, I found the short and fixed it after I got a partial refund. There is a thread about this experience here on the forum.

When you present your store as a serious business with quality control and you say you are only selling (expensive) inspected thoroughly tested items you will be held to a much higher standard than "Ebay Vlad" from the Ukraine selling the same items but truthfully describing them as old motherboards from god knows where only tested so far as "POSTing to BIOS".

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Older PC: K6-3+ 400@600MHz, PC-Chips M577, 256MB SDRAM, AWE64, Voodoo Banshee.

Reply 16231 of 52819, by luckybob

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I picked up an IBM 5170 last weekend from Craigslist. I'm quite pleased with what I got: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZUKQNojdwIo

It is a mistake to think you can solve any major problems just with potatoes.

Reply 16232 of 52819, by Bancho

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This showed up this morning and will be going into my 200mmx machine. […]
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This showed up this morning and will be going into my 200mmx machine.

Terratec EWS64s card with an unknown size simm module. Came with manuals but unfortunately no Driver CD. Does anyone have this they could upload or know where I can get it?

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That's a nice one. Congrats. 😀
Been lurking on them Terratec cards my self, yet I can not decide if they are worth what people charge.

Thanks, I managed to win this off the bay for £22 shipped which i think is a very fair price. The ram module is only 8mb but i'm sure i have a 32mb stick floating about and certainly have 16mb modules.

Reply 16233 of 52819, by tikoellner

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Love those XT machines! Hard to get in Europe, though.

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I picked up an IBM 5170 last weekend from Craigslist. I'm quite pleased with what I got: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZUKQNojdwIo

Reply 16234 of 52819, by melbar

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This capacitor does seem to have some issues with its "optischer Zustand"! It looks even worse IRL as the image dosn't show just how deformed it actually is.

It looks like the previous owner has eventually damaged this capacitor during connecting the 3-pin fan and /or the IDE cable...

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looks more that he has used a screwdriver... 😊

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This capacitor does seem to have some issues with its "optischer Zustand"! It looks even worse IRL as the image dosn't show just how deformed it actually is.

It looks like the previous owner has eventually damaged this capacitor during connecting the 3-pin fan and /or the IDE cable...

He must have reconneced these cables using force hundreds of times with the precision of a blind hippo. The picture does a really bad job showing the deformation as it lacks the depth needed, one side of the cap is pushed in perhaps 5 mm. A few of the other larger caps also show damage so I think stuff has been stacked on top of this motherboard. I think it was probably a huge pile of motherboards with the damage to the cap done by another motherboards attached heat sink or something like that.

The motherboard seems to be working just fine but the first response from the seller was that all hardware sold is inspected and tested and that the motherboard was spotless when they shipped it. Now when I know about the damage I can see it in the low quality picture they used on Ebay...

My second message to the store which sold me the motherboard was a little bit more harsh than the first and I have now asked for a 20 euro refund out of the 80 euro I paid. I don't know if I will involve Ebay or Pay Pal in this, I think I perfer to just shame them on the Internets if they continue to play dumb.

New PC: i9 12900K @5GHz all cores @1.2v. MSI PRO Z690-A. 32GB DDR4 3600 CL14. 3070Ti.
Old PC: Dual Xeon X5690@4.6GHz, EVGA SR-2, 48GB DDR3R@2000MHz, Intel X25-M. GTX 980ti.
Older PC: K6-3+ 400@600MHz, PC-Chips M577, 256MB SDRAM, AWE64, Voodoo Banshee.

Reply 16236 of 52819, by Asomodai

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Just picked up one of these on ebay.

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Nvidia 7950 GX2. Two 7950GTs in one card. This is going into my fast Win98/Windows XP build along with my P4 Cedar Mill. Whilst 98 wont recognise one of the cards, it's still fast with just one of them operating in it's own right. Of course XP will recognise both.

Reply 16237 of 52819, by xplus93

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Skyscraper wrote:

This capacitor does seem to have some issues with its "optischer Zustand"! It looks even worse IRL as the image dosn't show just how deformed it actually is.

It looks like the previous owner has eventually damaged this capacitor during connecting the 3-pin fan and /or the IDE cable...

He must have reconneced these cables using force hundreds of times with the precision of a blind hippo. The picture does a really bad job showing the deformation as it lacks the depth needed, one side of the cap is pushed in perhaps 5 mm. A few of the other larger caps also show damage so I think stuff has been stacked on top of this motherboard. I think it was probably a huge pile of motherboards with the damage to the cap done by another motherboards attached heat sink or something like that.

The motherboard seems to be working just fine but the first response from the seller was that all hardware sold is inspected and tested and that the motherboard was spotless when they shipped it. Now when I know about the damage I can see it in the low quality picture they used on Ebay...

My second message to the store which sold me the motherboard was a little bit more harsh than the first and I have now asked for a 20 euro refund out of the 80 euro I paid. I don't know if I will involve Ebay or Pay Pal in this, I think I perfer to just shame them on the Internets if they continue to play dumb.

Sometimes that even happens during shipping to the reseller. When I worked at staples we had to pile everything into a single gaylord and ship it off to the "electronics recycler". Desktops and CRTs were too big for me to sneak home and it was just painful to see what happened to them.

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Reply 16238 of 52819, by Carlos S. M.

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Got all of these for 10 €

two computers, parts from a 3rd computer, a Radeon 7500 AGP and Radeon x1650 PRO AGP

PC1 (left tower):
PCChips M747
Pentium II 350
SiS 6326 onboard video
Realtek 8139 network card
Seagate Medalist 3.2 GB
CD drive
235 watt PSU

PC2 (right tower, blue case):
QDI Advance 10F
Pentium III 866
Geforce 2 MX/400
CMI-8738 PCI soundcard
Realtek 8139 network card
56k Modem
Phillips TV tunner
no HDD
250 watt PSU

PC3 (in parts, probably upgraded in the past):
Shuttle HOT-637
Celeron 333 with Slot 1 to Socket 370 adapter
SiS 6326 AGP
Soundblaster Live! SB0100
Realtek 8139 network card
Quantum Fireball 1280 AT 1.2 GB
VSI005.2 8 bit ISA card (idk what is this card)
Windows 98 SE
350 watt P4 PSU

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Socket 423/478 Motherboards with Universal AGP Slot
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Reply 16239 of 52819, by CelGen

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Because screw calling PCIe mobos and sdram era machines retro, I picked up an empty chassis from Northgate Computer Systems.

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It will be converted to operate as the CPU for a dedicated ContrALTO machine once I can source the appropriate portrait CRT monitor. The emulator will load images from 5.25" Syquest cartridges.

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