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First post, by Tetrium

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This has gotten my curiosity for a while now, usually laying dormant in my mind and then bubbling up now and again.

What are the oldest/first ATX motherboards that exist?

I do have a couple model numbers in my mind though, but I want everyone's input for I surely must've missed a few 😀

So far I know this:
ATX was created in 1995'ish by Intel, so I'll presume the oldest ATX boards will probably have been made by intel as well.
I oldest boards I know are both Intel oem boards, one is Socket 8 I think and the other Socket 5(?).

Shame really noone seems to have ever produced a Socket 4 or Socket 3 motherboard (or Socket 6 🤣).

Edit: Discussion about the newest baby-AT board seems to fit in this thread nicely also 😀

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Reply 2 of 27, by Mau1wurf1977

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Personally, for me it was a Pentium 2 system. The board was from ASUS and the chipset was Intel. It was one of these chipsets before BX440 that could only do 66 MHz.

Was very happy with that system, was a PII 300 which cost quite a bit back in the day and I remember playing a lot with Emulators for Arcade games (not MAME) such as Strider or Rtype 2.

Was all under pure DOS and ran it perfectly.

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Reply 3 of 27, by Anonymous Coward

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It was probably an Intel board

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Reply 4 of 27, by ratfink

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Funny, I've been wondering almost the opposite lately: what were the latest AT format boards made? On account of having a nice AT case but being bored with the 386 in it and its 5x86 predecessor.

Reply 6 of 27, by Tetrium

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ratfink wrote:

Funny, I've been wondering almost the opposite lately: what were the latest AT format boards made? On account of having a nice AT case but being bored with the 386 in it and its 5x86 predecessor.

The newest "standard" AT boards I've seen are Super Socket 7's (obviously 😜), a couple Slot 1 BX boards and at least 1 s370 Celeron PPGA board.
I do remember there being an industrial board with P4?

I'll go have a look if I can find anything about it...

Edit: Theres a thread about the fastest AT board on VC
Link: http://www.vintage-computer.com/vcforum/showt … 7d7c069a879f07f
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Edit2: Found one of those AT boards: http://www.corvalent.com/02b_ind_boards/mb_855gme_at.shtml

And cheers for the many replies in such short notice!

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Reply 7 of 27, by Antinomy

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http://www.tomshardware.com/picturestory/498- … ail-badaxe.html - I was almost right. The very first was Intel Thor - 430FX chipset

P.S. a nice photo of it: http://www.thg.ru/mainboard/intel_motherboard … nshots_6_1.html

Reply 8 of 27, by Tetrium

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Antinomy wrote:

http://www.tomshardware.com/picturestory/498- … ail-badaxe.html - I was almost right. The very first was Intel Thor - 430FX chipset

P.S. a nice photo of it: http://www.thg.ru/mainboard/intel_motherboard … nshots_6_1.html

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Reply 9 of 27, by Pippy P. Poopypants

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Antinomy wrote:

http://www.tomshardware.com/picturestory/498- … ail-badaxe.html - I was almost right. The very first was Intel Thor - 430FX chipset

P.S. a nice photo of it: http://www.thg.ru/mainboard/intel_motherboard … nshots_6_1.html

Looks very similar to the old TC430HX (from early-mid '96) that I used to have (on mine though, those "placeholder" chip areas you see were filled by an S3 ViRGE-DX graphics controller with 2 MB of RAM), and also among the first to have USB ports.

Reply 10 of 27, by valnar

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My ASUS P2B-B has a dual AT/ATX connector, so that must be right around the transition. As posted earlier, the HX and VX chipsets would be even earlier. I guess that makes it the Pentium being the earliest, unless somebody can scrounge up a late model 486 board. It would probably have PCI too though, and PCI on a 486 was bad news.

Reply 12 of 27, by valnar

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retro games 100 wrote:
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... and PCI on a 486 was bad news.

Please can you elaborate on this?

I wish I could but I haven't used a 486 since....well, the 486 days. I only remember it was a half-ass attempt and had some compatibility issues. PCI really earned its place on the Pentium boards.

Reply 13 of 27, by Mau1wurf1977

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I think RG100 would disagree with that 🤣

His tests are the reason why 486 UMC chipset boards sell for so much 🤣

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Reply 16 of 27, by Tetrium

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Almost all of my 486 boards are either UMC or SiS. UMC seems better then SiS but the SiS boards aren't that bad.
Even if their performance is less then the UMC, it's still a 486 non the less 😉

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Cheers! 😁
I'd forgotten about that 😉

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Reply 17 of 27, by GL1zdA

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Does anyone know which were the first dual CPU ATX boards? But fully ATX compatible - I bought a Dual Pentium Gigabyte GA586DX and it comes in ATX form factor but requires AT PSU. 2 PS/2 ports would also be nice (unlike the Tyan S1668, which accepts only a PS/2 keyboard).

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Reply 18 of 27, by laxdragon

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I own a Pentium 200 MMX mobo that is ATX. It is dead now, but it was the earliest I've seen.

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Reply 19 of 27, by Windows9566

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laxdragon wrote:

I own a Pentium 200 MMX mobo that is ATX. It is dead now, but it was the earliest I've seen.

how did it die?

R5 5600X, 32 GB RAM, RTX 3060 TI, Win11
P3 600, 256 MB RAM, nVidia Riva TNT2 M64, SB Vibra 16S, Win98
PMMX 200, 128 MB RAM, S3 Virge DX, Yamaha YMF719, Win95
486DX2 66, 32 MB RAM, Trident TGUI9440, ESS ES688F, DOS