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50 to 133MHz FSB on a BX Mainboard

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Reply 69 of 75, by gerwin

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Ok. So you are at 600MHz currently. If you are not interested in the speed switching then the benefit is less. Depends on what you want to achieve. Getting a plain 8.0x100MHz CPU may be a lot easier, Whilst getting a tualatin+adapter gives even more speed.

I made a few benchmarks with Quake v1.08, it shows the average FPS.
From pure DOS: Video mode 640x480, timedemo 2, nosound, nojoy.
System: GA-6BXC with Tualeron QID2QS CPU. 128MB RAM. Voodoo3 video, either AGP or PCI variant. AGP divider=2/3.
With and without 'MTRRLFBE LFB WC' (write combining).

Speed MHz   PCI+WC  AGP+WC  PCI    AGP
4x_50=200 25,9 26,0 13,7 13,7
4x_66=266 34,3 34,4 18,2 18,2
4x100=400 50,5 50,9 25,0 27,0
4x133=533 66,4 67,5 27,0 35,8
8x_66=533 55,7 56,3 21,0 21,1

Edit: added missing benchmark entries

Last edited by gerwin on 2013-09-06, 20:32. Edited 3 times in total.

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Reply 70 of 75, by d1stortion

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gerwin wrote:

My Geforce MX440 does not like it either. Regarding the other problems, was the PCI bus at 33MHz?

Yes it was. The mobo in question is a CUBX-E, so certainly not some cheapskate board. When I bought it it had an 800EB in it, so I assume the previous owner ran it like that without problems. Or he just settled for 600 MHz, who knows? 🤣

Reply 71 of 75, by idspispopd

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Nahkri wrote:

Actually it officialy supports the k6 3,and the k6 2+ beeing a k6 3 with 128mb cache,i guess it supports that 1 too 😜

The K6-2+ is a K6-3+ with 128kB cache, it needs a lower voltage than a K6-3 and BIOS support to enable all features.

Reply 72 of 75, by gerwin

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Yesterday I wanted to see if I can undervolt the Pentium II and III processors. At least for the speeds up to 533 MHz.

The Pentium III Tualatin core (default 1,5V) was on 1,3V already and I have currently no means to lower it further. Works fine even up to 1000MHz. I remember Swaaye wrote about his Tualatin running fine with just 1,1V.

The Pentium III Coppermine core impressed me: SL3VA (default 1,65V) accepted all voltages, it ended up at the lowest setting: 1,3V (measured 1,325V). Let it run Quake for an hour without any problems. I tape-modded the other two coppermine core CPUs (in the picture on the right), as native slot-1 leaves me no jumpers. They behave similar, but need more testing.
The benefit is that they don't really need a fan at 1,3V at 533MHz or less. So up to 533 MHz the Coppermine core is practically the same as a Tualatin core. Making SL3VA, SL3XG and especially the ES more interesting for my use.

Next in line was a Pentium II Deschutes core (default 2,0V). 1,8V with 400MHz was not a reliable combination for the SL2QF. Raised it back to 1,9V which did not cause any problems yet. This processor was originally in the package on the left of it. I removed the package to read the L2 cache specs, and add L2 cache cooling and a new fan.

Also shown is the Pentium II Klamath core SL2HD with its heavy heatsink. Defaults to 2,8V. Maybe I will mess with it later.

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Reply 73 of 75, by Gustl

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Good day
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It's an old article, but I would like to contribute my observations and ask if one or more people can check it and, if necessary, confirm or refute it.
Gigabyte ga-6bxc ver.1.7 450mhz cpu 256mb ram,
Geforce 6200 524MB ram
win98se and ME
only possible with 16 colors and a resolution of 640x480.
Error message:
Graphics card and motherboard use the same system resources.

My question is, are there any users who successfully use ATI cards on the system?
Because I only own Geforce cards and don't want to write off a working board.

Have a nice day.

Reply 74 of 75, by gerwin

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Gustl wrote on 2023-10-05, 08:25:

Geforce 6200 524MB ram

It would have been better to start a new topic. The only resemblance to this topic is the motherboard series, but nothing else.
That graphics RAM size is oddly high. Look here instead:
512MB Geforce 6200 AGP in Windows 98SE?
As an addendum to that: Most BIOS'es for GA-6BXC cannot disable ACPI, there was a modded BIOS posted on Vogons, adjusted to allow for disabling ACPI. I have not tried it myself yet.
Link: Re: Powerleap PL-IP3/T and GA-6BXC MB
More Here: http://www.vogonsdrivers.com/getfile.php?fileid=727

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