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First post, by Private_Ops

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Where do SiS video cards fall performance wise? They're awfully cheap on ebay, is there any use to them past 2D?

Reply 3 of 17, by Unknown_K

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I snagged a shrinkwrapped SiS 315E 32MB recently because it was like $6 shipped (its staying in the box). Might as well collect them since its all ATI/Nvidia anymore.

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Reply 5 of 17, by keropi

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I only have experience with a 8MB PCI 6326 card... I can't recommend it for DOS stuff... it's a windows vga IMHO

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Reply 6 of 17, by dirkmirk

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My SIS experience was also an integrated 6326 on a pc chips pentium 2 motherboard, was pretty stable If I remember correctly.

I remember racking my brains out trying to get opengl to work with the 6326 but could never work it out, Im sure I read somewhere that it supported opengl or something or other?

Reply 8 of 17, by subhuman@xgtx

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eL_PuSHeR wrote:

I remember one 6326 card I had. Best VESA compability ever. Performance wise is was just okay.

I had an 8mb AGP 6326 for 6 months for my back then temporary "main pc" (PentiumII 350, 256mb pc100 ram) and it performed horribly under any D3D game, Windows 2D was quite slow too.

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Reply 9 of 17, by sliderider

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SiS cards were mainly entry level in terms of performance. Even their late offerings like the Xabre 600 weren't very good perfomers. The Xabre 600 couldn't even keep up with a GF4 MX440 runnning DX7 games on a consistent basis, and it was supposed to be a DX 8.1 compliant card. I can only imagine how much it would bog down if you tried running a game with DX8 rendering turned on.

Reply 10 of 17, by NitroX infinity

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The problem with the Xabre's is that they do Vertex stuff in software mode. I wonder how they perform in DirectX 7 games though.

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Reply 11 of 17, by swaaye

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SiS 315 (also known as the first Xabre)

It's DirectX 7. Slower than a typical GeForce 2 MX.
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Reply 12 of 17, by sliderider

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NitroX infinity wrote:

The problem with the Xabre's is that they do Vertex stuff in software mode. I wonder how they perform in DirectX 7 games though.

The Xabre 80/200/400 did vertex in software but the 600 added a hardware vertex unit and it was still slow. That's not stopping me from trying to find one, though.

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Reply 13 of 17, by Putas

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NitroX infinity wrote:

The problem with the Xabre's is that they do Vertex stuff in software mode. I wonder how they perform in DirectX 7 games though.

I don't see why would software vertex shading be a problem. TnL unit was hardware, albeit slow as well.

Reply 14 of 17, by NitroX infinity

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As I've read it (a while ago I'll admit) game-companies focused on hardware vertex shading which caused problems with the Xabres and many games required patching.

I don't know if that was one of those exaggerations that often come by on the internet though.

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Reply 15 of 17, by VooDooMan

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Updated photos of my SiS graphics cards including the ultra rare Xabre 80 😉 I have got almost all the cards I need beside Xabre 600... Does anyone here have a Xabre 600 with 128 MB RAM? I was wondering if there is a version with that much memory. I have a Xabre 400 with 128 MB ram, so I think there must be a version of Xabre 600 with more than 64 Megabytes.

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Reply 16 of 17, by Putas

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I envy you. How did you find Xabre 80? I haven't seen one in the wild since ... ever. Can you tell me the clocks of that WinFast card? I have only HIS model of SiS 300.

Reply 17 of 17, by VooDooMan

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Thanks, it's good to hear it from someone who has almost all the cards that I envy him ;P I was lucky 😁 It;s good to have friends spread all over the world 😜 I found it in Italy, it is totally new, unused with the original drivers and manual, unfortunatelly no BOX 🙁 I will check the clocks of that SiS 300 and let you know later.

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