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A good use for an S3 Virge ?

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Reply 40 of 81, by Carlos S. M.

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Elia1995 wrote:

Has anyone tried to connect an hdmi monitor with a vga to hdmi converter ?

No, but that would need an active converter since HDMI is digital and VGA is analog

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Reply 41 of 81, by Elia1995

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Perhaps one of these ???

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Reply 42 of 81, by Carlos S. M.

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Elia1995 wrote:

Perhaps one of these ???

Yes, except this one also provides audio as well

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Reply 43 of 81, by Jo22

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Do they preseve the aspect ratio ? Or is text mode stretched, for example ?
Just asking, because I love text adventures (aka interative fiction).

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Reply 44 of 81, by Elia1995

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My Hauppauge HD PVR doesn't stretch anything.
Although I'm getting a new capture card, but this time PCI.

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Reply 45 of 81, by kanecvr

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Myloch wrote:

Other than dos games, s3 virge is crap: only good use in 3d I found is Pod and Destruction Derby (dedicated releases).

Virge Descent looks great too - I like it better then the unofficial 3dfx version since the mouse works and you get the cockpit view - and I like the texture filtering on it better too. Performance is pretty bad tough...

Reply 46 of 81, by Tetrium

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Elia1995 wrote:

I have an S3 Virge with 2MB of video memory, it's the only PCI graphics card I have and yet I haven't found a good use for it…

You can use it as a testing card.
Especially since you don't have any other PCI graphics cards.

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Reply 48 of 81, by Tetrium

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cuba200611 wrote:

Yep, a fail-safe in case the onboard video of those mobos without an AGP slot suddenly fail.

Yup! ^^
Or for when you expect problems with the AGP portion of one's build, including things like driver problems.

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Reply 49 of 81, by Elia1995

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I used it as a "testing" card on my dear Abit NF-7 (the one which doesn't seem to show anything but powers up just fine) and I saw completely nothing...

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Reply 50 of 81, by clueless1

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And in case you can't come up with anymore uses, here's the old standby:

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Reply 51 of 81, by Tetrium

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Elia1995 wrote:

I used it as a "testing" card on my dear Abit NF-7 (the one which doesn't seem to show anything but powers up just fine) and I saw completely nothing...

Shame you seem to have a dead board, no graphics card will help you fix that 🙁

(it could be the caps, no graphics card will compensate for that)

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And in case you can't come up with anymore uses, here's the old standby:

s3.jpg

*no video cards were harmed in the making of this photo

So you were the person using play-doh on certain rare graphics cards? *starts searching for tar and feathers and leads angry mod to clueless1's home* (just kidding of course 😜)

Tiger433 wrote:

You can try Tomb Raider on that card, on 320x240 and 512x384 work good with that card, I have 4 MB S3 Virge and setting up in windows 1024x768x24 gets very blurry screen, that`s normal with that card?

And that`s photo of my card:

Zdjęcie0405.jpg

In The Netherlands, this particular layout seemed to be the absolutely most common variant of Virge/Virge DX/Virge ?? in existance 😁

Personally I think they are really good cards, quite versatile for what they are. Even the AGP versions might prove useful, I kinda regret not keeping all the AGP S3 cards and Trio's (I only kept the Virges...mostly).

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Reply 52 of 81, by Panties

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I have a S3 Virge at home.. ..

I never get to test that yet, as I am unable to decide...
should I...
1. put S3 Virge, or a Trident Card, into a Pentium 1 233MMX?
2. The original Mechwarrior 2 (MSDOS GAME), you can set the game resolution...(up to 1024x768, if i am not mistaken) so, will upgrading the S3 Virge RAM from 2 to 4MB, helps?

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Reply 53 of 81, by clueless1

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Panties wrote:
I have a S3 Virge at home.. .. […]
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I have a S3 Virge at home.. ..

I never get to test that yet, as I am unable to decide...
should I...
1. put S3 Virge, or a Trident Card, into a Pentium 1 233MMX?
2. The original Mechwarrior 2 (MSDOS GAME), you can set the game resolution...(up to 1024x768, if i am not mistaken) so, will upgrading the S3 Virge RAM from 2 to 4MB, helps?

😊

I would pick the S3 over the Trident. Regarding 1024x768, you should be fine with 2MB of RAM, though I'm not sure how well MW2 will run at that res on a 233MMX. I'm guessing 640x480 will run well, and 800x600 will be "pushing it".
Assuming 256 colors (which is 8bits per pixel): 1024x768x8=6291456/8 (8 bits per byte)=786432 bytes of video memory needed. So 2MB should be able to handle that fine.

edit: you will probably have to run Univbe or S3 VBE to add VBE 2.0 support in order to get the SVGA resolutions.

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Reply 54 of 81, by Panties

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clueless1 wrote:
I would pick the S3 over the Trident. Regarding 1024x768, you should be fine with 2MB of RAM, though I'm not sure how well MW2 […]
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Panties wrote:
I have a S3 Virge at home.. .. […]
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I have a S3 Virge at home.. ..

I never get to test that yet, as I am unable to decide...
should I...
1. put S3 Virge, or a Trident Card, into a Pentium 1 233MMX?
2. The original Mechwarrior 2 (MSDOS GAME), you can set the game resolution...(up to 1024x768, if i am not mistaken) so, will upgrading the S3 Virge RAM from 2 to 4MB, helps?

😊

I would pick the S3 over the Trident. Regarding 1024x768, you should be fine with 2MB of RAM, though I'm not sure how well MW2 will run at that res on a 233MMX. I'm guessing 640x480 will run well, and 800x600 will be "pushing it".
Assuming 256 colors (which is 8bits per pixel): 1024x768x8=6291456/8 (8 bits per byte)=786432 bytes of video memory needed. So 2MB should be able to handle that fine.

edit: you will probably have to run Univbe or S3 VBE to add VBE 2.0 support in order to get the SVGA resolutions.

Sorry, I mistakenly mention S3Virge..

Mine is S3 Trio 64 V...

S3_Trio64V.jpeg

and here is my Trident...

Trident_TGUI9440.jpeg

Any verdict/recommendation?

Edited: After looking at http://gona.mactar.hu/DOS_TESTS/ , I will stick with S3 Trio... thanks all.. 😀

Reply 55 of 81, by Panties

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stamasd wrote:
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The thing is, though, finding those RAM chips separately. Most likely you'd have to scavenge them from another Virge board.

Chips are not that hard to find, or expensive.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/321424283082?_trksid= … K%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

Will this Chip from ebay, is compatible with my S3 Trio 64V? (See my pic in my previous post)
If yes.... any benefit from upgrading it? 😕

Reply 56 of 81, by Kadath

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I've got many of them, and I'm using currently more S3 in my retro-rigs, as I've seen they are very problems-free, and so much compatible - although they are for sure not that powerful... I'm using one AGP model, I think 3D/2x in my PIII-based build, and another PCI one, Virge if I'm remembering right, in one of my 486. Really, no problems at all! Take in consideration to use them for your retro projects, if you don't need somethiing really powerful and dedicated.

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Reply 57 of 81, by elianda

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Reply 58 of 81, by Kadath

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elianda wrote:

From 1995, still kicking

I own, by the other models, this exact model too - never mounted, yet.

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Reply 59 of 81, by stamasd

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clueless1 wrote:

And in case you can't come up with anymore uses, here's the old standby:

*no video cards were harmed in the making of this photo

Similarly, a Virge makes a decent fan to cool yourself on hot days.

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