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Reply 20 of 32, by phinix

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pan069 wrote on 2020-04-21, 11:13:
On a system like that, for DOS games probably stick with a Sound Blaster, either an SB16 or an AWE32. If you can get your hands […]
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phinix wrote on 2020-04-18, 00:13:

EDIT: got socket7 Pentium MMX 233, now trying to pick sound card...

On a system like that, for DOS games probably stick with a Sound Blaster, either an SB16 or an AWE32. If you can get your hands on a Gravis Ultrasound then a SB16 and a GUS in the same system makes a nice combo since you've pretty much covered all your bases.

In regards to double boot, rather than partitioning a hard drive, what's worked well for me is to use swapable Compact Flash cards. You can have a CF card with just DOS for DOS games and swap it with a CF card with Win98 installed. You can buy these IDE/CF adapters that allow you to choose to install in a floppy driver space or install it through a bracket in one of the rear slots.

https://www.techbuy.com.au/p/128817/I_OCARDS_ … cs/ADIDECFB.asp

I use one of these adapters to easily copy files to and from my CF cards on my main machine:

https://www.photechcomputers.com.au/photech-p … sd-hc-sdxc.html

Cool, so what size of cf card should I get for DOS? 2GB was max?
I could have like you said - one with pure DOS 6.22 and one for Windows 98se, maybe 32GB - should be enough for win and games.

Reply 21 of 32, by dr_st

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Depends on the game collection. Late DOS games and Windows 9x games already frequently came on multiple CDs. Install too many of these at once, and 32GB may not be enough. 64GB will give more breathing room.

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Reply 22 of 32, by phinix

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dr_st wrote on 2020-04-21, 15:01:

Depends on the game collection. Late DOS games and Windows 9x games already frequently came on multiple CDs. Install too many of these at once, and 32GB may not be enough. 64GB will give more breathing room.

OK, thanks. and for pure DOS, 2GB is max, right?

Reply 23 of 32, by dr_st

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DOS 6.22 supports FAT16 only, so up to 2GB partitions, and a little under 8GB total.

The pure DOS of Win98 SE is only limited by the FAT32 limit. But Win98 SE will choke at over 137GB (I think there might be a patch for that).

I've been running my Win98 SE machine with an 80GB drive and never felt cramped, even though I have many DOS games, Windows games and also programs and media files.

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Reply 24 of 32, by The Sandman

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If you don't mind beeing time correct, I can only recommend a Athlon 64 setup based on a VIA Chipset. DOS (Win98)/XP is working perfectly fine with all drivers installed. SB16 Emulation works flawless with these chipsets. You can even go and use softsynthies with great soundfonts. By adding a GF6/Radeon X800 class GPU you will miss not a single thing. Demanding Games can be run with Anisotropic Filtering and AA for better image quality. I Can even emulate 3dFx with dgVoodoo. Problematic Dos games can be run with Dosbox.

Currently I'm running an Abit A8V with an Athlon 64 x2 4800+, 1-GB of Ram, GF6800 GT, SB-Live, 250-GB IDE HDD. No issues at all.
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Reply 25 of 32, by pan069

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phinix wrote on 2020-04-21, 14:16:
pan069 wrote on 2020-04-21, 11:13:
On a system like that, for DOS games probably stick with a Sound Blaster, either an SB16 or an AWE32. If you can get your hands […]
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phinix wrote on 2020-04-18, 00:13:

EDIT: got socket7 Pentium MMX 233, now trying to pick sound card...

On a system like that, for DOS games probably stick with a Sound Blaster, either an SB16 or an AWE32. If you can get your hands on a Gravis Ultrasound then a SB16 and a GUS in the same system makes a nice combo since you've pretty much covered all your bases.

In regards to double boot, rather than partitioning a hard drive, what's worked well for me is to use swapable Compact Flash cards. You can have a CF card with just DOS for DOS games and swap it with a CF card with Win98 installed. You can buy these IDE/CF adapters that allow you to choose to install in a floppy driver space or install it through a bracket in one of the rear slots.

https://www.techbuy.com.au/p/128817/I_OCARDS_ … cs/ADIDECFB.asp

I use one of these adapters to easily copy files to and from my CF cards on my main machine:

https://www.photechcomputers.com.au/photech-p … sd-hc-sdxc.html

Cool, so what size of cf card should I get for DOS? 2GB was max?
I could have like you said - one with pure DOS 6.22 and one for Windows 98se, maybe 32GB - should be enough for win and games.

DOS supports up the 2GB if I'm not mistaken. Win98 can go larger with FAT32 but you should check what your BIOS supports as well. You can always format larger CF card for less capacity. I.e. get 32GB cards and format one for 2GB for DOS. You might also be able to partition the CF cards so that e.g. for DOS you can have 2x 2GB partitions on a single card. You probably need to experiment a bit.

Reply 27 of 32, by Jorpho

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phinix wrote on 2020-04-23, 11:11:

Does USB/MIR ports work ok under pure DOS?
My Asus mobo has this USB/MIR slots - is it working straight away under DOS? If I plug in USB mouse for example?

A moment of searching turns up USB DOS Drivers .

There are also DOS drivers for USB mass storage devices. USB keyboard support may require a setting in your computer's BIOS.

Reply 28 of 32, by phinix

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Jorpho wrote on 2020-04-23, 16:36:
phinix wrote on 2020-04-23, 11:11:

Does USB/MIR ports work ok under pure DOS?
My Asus mobo has this USB/MIR slots - is it working straight away under DOS? If I plug in USB mouse for example?

A moment of searching turns up USB DOS Drivers .

There are also DOS drivers for USB mass storage devices. USB keyboard support may require a setting in your computer's BIOS.

Cool, thanks.

Reply 31 of 32, by phinix

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toastdieb wrote on 2020-05-23, 17:59:

I suppose one could simply format it as FAT16 and then copy the files over.

I would probably install it in the machine and format/install DOS from FDD like a normal hdd myself

Sure, but I do not have DOS floppies...

Reply 32 of 32, by gdjacobs

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Try the HP USB Disk Storage Format Tool:
http://m.majorgeeks.com/files/details/hp_usb_ … ormat_tool.html

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