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Bought these (retro) hardware today

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Reply 2260 of 52914, by luckybob

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^.^ I have an 8086 that has just been kicking my ass in terms of hard drives. It uses a bastard version of XT-IDE and a proprietary connector. I LITERALLY have 8 failed drives on my shelf for this system, until I found that scsi card. The midi card is icing on the cake. I'm hoping I can at least test it, make sure it works, then re-sell it to cover costs.

It is a mistake to think you can solve any major problems just with potatoes.

Reply 2261 of 52914, by rgart

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scored a few things today.

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Voodoo 2 3DFX 12MB version 2

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Voodoo 2 3DFX 12MB version 2.1

Can I SLI them without any issues?

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Creative Sound Blaster 32 CT 3620

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Creative Sound Blaster 32 CT 3600

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Creative Labs DVD Drive 2 speed.

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Creative Labs Infra x48 speed.

What I am wondering is.... are the two voodoo 2's in SLI more at home in a Socket 7 motherboard with a K6-3 450 cpu or a Pentium II Slot 1 400mhz

Reply 2262 of 52914, by Mau1wurf1977

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IMO go with the Slot 1 system for SLI. But even that could be too slow for SLI Voodoo 2...

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Reply 2263 of 52914, by Old Thrashbarg

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The Voodoo2 SLI scales pretty well with CPU speed... I remember reading somewhere that it sees benefits even up into the >1ghz range. So the more CPU power you can feed it, the better.

Reply 2264 of 52914, by Malik

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rgart wrote:

Can I SLI them without any issues?
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What I am wondering is.... are the two voodoo 2's in SLI more at home in a Socket 7 motherboard with a K6-3 450 cpu or a Pentium II Slot 1 400mhz

Yes, those two should well SLI with each other. I've mix-matched a Creative and a Diamond Card with similar memory with reference drivers before. Usually these are reference cards with just the company branding on the PCB.

Those 2 CPUs are a really close call. The motherboard architecture and chipset advancements of the PII system might provide an edge. Anyway :

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A real world game benchmark comparison with the SLIs in both systems will be interesting to see.

IIRC, Voodoo2/SLI benefits a system with a minimum of 400MHz. Meaning the advantages of Voodoo2 and SLI are seen from this speed onwards. I remember reading about this in some Voodoo2 reviews where the question was "if already having voodoo1, is it worth to upgrade to voodoo2?". (If the system is less than 400MHz, and already having a Voodoo 1, the speed increase by upgrading to Voodoo 2 is not appreciated.)

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Reply 2265 of 52914, by vetz

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Some new parts:

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Boxed Sparkle TNT2 M64 PCI

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Two Pentium Pro's, 200mhz with 512kb cache and 1MB cache.

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Some popular 486 + Pentium75 CPUs.

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VLB IDE controller, Adaptec AHA-1542C SCSI ISA, ISA IDE, ISA LPT + COM cards

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Gigabyte GA-586 AP Socket 5 (ALI based) motherboard with coin battery modification done.

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Iwill P54Ti Socket 7 430FX board (also have COAST module) + Pentium100

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AWE 64

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Two 8-bit ISA soundcards, Soundblaster CT1350B and Protac AV202P3 [/url]

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Reply 2267 of 52914, by Artex

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sliderider wrote:
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Twas worth it to me since I needed this one for my Real3D i740 collection. Just need the 24MB version now...
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You can't have mine!!! 😜

OK, maybe for a million dollars you can. 😁

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Reply 2268 of 52914, by sliderider

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Artex wrote:
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Twas worth it to me since I needed this one for my Real3D i740 collection. Just need the 24MB version now...
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You can't have mine!!! 😜

OK, maybe for a million dollars you can. 😁

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I did. I don't know which box it is packed away in right now.

Reply 2269 of 52914, by bristlehog

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vetz, you have a word 'declaration' written in russian on an envelope between your CT1350B and Protac cards. Where did you get them?

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Reply 2270 of 52914, by vetz

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bristlehog wrote:

vetz, you have a word 'declaration' written in russian on an envelope between your CT1350B and Protac cards. Where did you get them?

The Bulgarian envolope is unrelated from the soundcards. I got the Protac as part of the motherboards + Awe64 + controller cards package from Denmark and the CT1350B from the UK.

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Reply 2271 of 52914, by rgart

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creative card awe 32 CT 3670
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also picked up a bunch of stuff free yesterday! I think it was a nice haul all from one guy who wanted to get rid of it. I especially like the full tower with the LED and turbo button. thinking about what hardware ill use.

Cirrus Logic CL-GD5428 VLB video card
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Full tower AT case
Intel Pentium 120mhz
ASUS P/I-P55T2P4 rev 3.10
32 MB RAM
S3 Virge DX
Creative Labs Sound Blaster 16 CT1750
Creative Labs Hex Speed CD-ROM
FM/AM Radio Card
Network Card
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ATX Tower Case
Intel Pentium 166mhz
TX97-XE rev 1.04 mobo
S3 Virge DX
64MB PC100 RAM
24x10x40 CDRW
Creative Labs Sound Blaster 16 CT2940
Hard Disk
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Really Nice Honeywell SUH keyboard DIN5
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Compaq Presario SR5240AN Tower Case (empty)
Motherboard was included though
MCP61PM-HM Rev 1.0B
2 x 512MB DDR2 667mhz
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Anyone know what this is?
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PCMCIA floppy drive
zip drive
5 1/4 inch disk drive
dvd-rom
creative cr-521-c caddy cdrom drive
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A heap of retro cards, modems.. all with boxes and manuals.
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Cant hurt to have a few extra serial mice + a legit copy of ME
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A banged up ThinkPad
Looks like someone was rough to remove the hard disk. the clips to keep the laptop together are a mess. all manuals and disks though. and it works.
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Reply 2272 of 52914, by Artex

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Anyone know what this is? http://img248.imageshack.us/img248/6425/dsc00830i.jpg […]
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Anyone know what this is?
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Looks like some kind of controller card to me.

Reply 2273 of 52914, by sliderider

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I took a chance on these a few days ago

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Only $18 shipped, so if just one of them works I come out ahead. The two larger ones are G3-350mhz and 400mhz, the ZIFs are all G4-400 except for one that is G3-500.

Reply 2275 of 52914, by sliderider

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nice ^^^I have an old Powermacintosh 9600/300 do you think it can be upgraded to a G3 using a processor like that?

It can be with one of the bigger ones. I have a 1ghz G4 in my 7500 and a 400mhz G3 in my 7600. the ZIF's can either go in a special carrier board for the older beige PCI Powermacs or fit in a socket in the Powermac G3's.

Reply 2276 of 52914, by Old Thrashbarg

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rgart wrote:

Anyone know what this is?

It's an OEM version of a WD MFM controller, from an Epson Equity series machine.

I have an old Powermacintosh 9600/300 do you think it can be upgraded to a G3 using a processor like that?

Yes. The slot-type modules would work as-is, because that's what they were intended for... x500/x600 series Power Macs. The ZIF ones can be used with a special carrier card, similar to the Slot1->S370 adapters in the PC world. The carrier cards are hard to find though, so if you want an upgrade it's probably best just to look for one of the slot type ones.

And just so you're aware: there were also G4 upgrades available for the old pre-G3 Powermacs. Stay away from those... they are not worth the troubles they cause.

Reply 2277 of 52914, by sliderider

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Old Thrashbarg wrote:
It's an OEM version of a WD MFM controller, from an Epson Equity series machine. […]
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rgart wrote:

Anyone know what this is?

It's an OEM version of a WD MFM controller, from an Epson Equity series machine.

I have an old Powermacintosh 9600/300 do you think it can be upgraded to a G3 using a processor like that?

Yes. The slot-type modules would work as-is, because that's what they were intended for... x500/x600 series Power Macs. The ZIF ones can be used with a special carrier card, similar to the Slot1->S370 adapters in the PC world. The carrier cards are hard to find though, so if you want an upgrade it's probably best just to look for one of the slot type ones.

And just so you're aware: there were also G4 upgrades available for the old pre-G3 Powermacs. Stay away from those... they are not worth the troubles they cause.

I haven't had a single issue with my 1ghz G4 powered 7500. The only real problem is the 50mhz bus is a huge bottleneck to such a fast processor but between the CPU upgrade and the Radeon 9200 video card in it it plays games great. A lot better than you would expect from such an old system. I might even try Call of Duty on it one day when I get an ATA133 adapter and bigger hard drive for it.

Reply 2278 of 52914, by Old Thrashbarg

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It may be working nicely now, but you're almost certainly going to run into trouble when you put an ATA133 card in.

The six slot machines (i.e., 9500, 9600 and clones) are even more troublesome, because the G4s don't get along well with the dual PCI buses.

Reply 2279 of 52914, by SquallStrife

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Not PC hardware, but...

Panasonic MSX2 - loose
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Panasonic 3DO - complete, loose
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Famicom - Complete In box
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Virtual On Twin-Stick Controller for Saturn - Sticks only in box
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Sega 32X - Complete in box
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NeoGeo CD - Complete in box
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Metal Gear 2 for MSX2 - Complete in box
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Plus a mountain of loose Famicom, SFC, 32X, etc games

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