PCMCIA Sound Cards

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Re: PCMCIA Sound Cards

Postby lolo799 » 2012-10-26 @ 09:34

mr_bigmouth_502, in pure DOS, the IBM 3D sound card has the best SB emulation of all the models, followed by the Mediavision card wich des only for real mode games.
Both the Newmedia Wavjammer and I/O Magic Tempo cards have direct support in some Pentium-era games (mostly games that use the Miles Sound System).

If you intend to play DOS games in Win9x, the Eigermedia/Fujitsu/Argosy cards (based on ES1688) offer SB DMA emulation, maybe the cards based on 1688P such as the Ratoc ones do as well.
The Wavjammer (and combo Sound/SCSI) does WSS-SB emulation in Win9x.
The Wami Box does work in Win9x/XP and offer SB/Pro digital audio in games, no OPL2/3 music though.
But you can use GM and up to a 16MB Soundfont, my post about this card is not far from the middle of the first page...

archsan, the SCP-55 only has official drivers for DOS/Win3.x and Win9x.
The third party Linux driver is for the kernel 2.0.21, it works on 2.0.36 according to the readme, old stuff...
It also needs pcmcia-cs-3.0.6.

I thought those USB PCMCIA worked only with memory card adapters and flashram cards...
If you think of using a PCMCIA card on a desktop, you better use an ISA or PCI adapter.
If you were thinking of a recent laptop/netbook, an USB/MIDI adapter or a SB live should be better, no?
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Re: PCMCIA Sound Cards

Postby archsan » 2012-10-26 @ 22:24

@lolo799

Thanks, I already have an SC-55MkII for use with MPU-IPC-T in an older desktop or with USB-MIDI adapter for newer systems, but the smaller SCP-55 card intrigued me because of its small size and thus better mobility (along with a tablet, for example). I'm quite sure there are "generic" PCMCIA adapters that should in theory be able to I/O with any PCMCIA device but I see though that the first problem seems to be in getting the OS to recognize and I/O through the adapter (which means possibly having to write a custom driver for it :/).

As for using a USB-MIDI adapter with the SCP-55, I thought the card will still have to draw power from somewhere won't it?
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Re: PCMCIA Sound Cards

Postby lolo799 » 2012-10-27 @ 22:55

I found some USB/PCMCIA adapters for storage and 3G cards:
http://www.elandigitalsystems.com/adapter/usb.php

I was thinking of using the USB/MIDI with a SC-55 or similar, wich is what you are already doing.
For something smalller, you could use a Roland PMA-5 or a Yamaha MU5, MU10 or MU15 if you don't need SoundCanvas.

And of the subject of Win NT4.0 support, the .Wavjammer has drivers for it, but according to the readme:
"The .WAVjammer drivers for Windows NT work only with Revision F of the .WAVjammer."
I'll check the revision of the card I have later.
The combo Sound/SCSI card from Newmedia has the same sound hardware has the Wavjammer, I wonder if would work as well with the NT 4.0 drivers...
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Re: PCMCIA Sound Cards

Postby lolo799 » 2012-11-18 @ 22:01

Found a small utility buried in the archived version of Ositech's website:
TELLME.COM 04/15/97 Version 2.25.2. A DOS utility that you can use to determine the PCMCIA or CardBus chipset in your notebook or computer.
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Re: PCMCIA Sound Cards

Postby thermin » 2013-4-23 @ 15:04

Hi all,

I have a question for the person who has(had?) a WaMi box. I recently bought one second hand, but it didn't include a cable. Would you happen to have the pinout for such a cable?

Thanks in advance,
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Re: PCMCIA Sound Cards

Postby lolo799 » 2013-4-23 @ 16:01

I don't have the pinout, I can take a look at it later this week.
Have you tried contacting the company that makes the WaMi box?
Maybe they can help you get a spare cable...
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Re: PCMCIA Sound Cards

Postby lolo799 » 2013-4-25 @ 16:12

If you look at the WaMi pcmcia card, from left to right you have the pins 1 to 15 for a regular db15 male plug.
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Re: PCMCIA Sound Cards

Postby m4dzr4k » 2013-6-05 @ 15:34

This is the scan of Panasonic Sound SCSI Card CF-JSC101 and complete set of original drivers in the attachment :)

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Also photos of Ratoc REX-5572W and Ratoc REX-9871 (AKA REX-5571)
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Re: PCMCIA Sound Cards

Postby KJason » 2014-1-30 @ 01:30

Hello guys,

Can anyone tell me if the EMU8000 (TDK, others?) cards are useable in Impulse Tracker with the AWE32/64 driver? (it -s6)
The reason I suspect this *might* work is IT relies on its own routines to detect/run the EMU8000 and seems not to need most DOS drivers. It theoretically might be compatible as long as you can set the card to a suitable base address (620h).

If someone cares to give it a shot I'd be pretty grateful. Thanks!
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Re: PCMCIA Sound Cards

Postby pcm2a » 2014-5-22 @ 22:20

I'm looking for a 16 bit pcmcia sound card that has drivers for Dos/Win 3.11/Win95. In all of those environments I would want sound blaster emulation and both sound effects and music. It's ok if the music can't be soundblaster and has to be one of the other choices.
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Re: PCMCIA Sound Cards

Postby archsan » 2014-7-16 @ 22:00

lolo799 wrote:I found some USB/PCMCIA adapters for storage and 3G cards:
http://www.elandigitalsystems.com/adapter/usb.php

I was thinking of using the USB/MIDI with a SC-55 or similar, wich is what you are already doing.
For something smalller, you could use a Roland PMA-5 or a Yamaha MU5, MU10 or MU15 if you don't need SoundCanvas.


Ah, I forgot this thread. That Roland PMA-5, I just checked it has SC-55mkII sound set, looks nifty. I think I've seen at least one for sale a while ago. Thanks for that (if you're still following this thread)!
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Re: PCMCIA Sound Cards

Postby pcm2a » 2014-11-11 @ 00:34

I just got in a Media Magic 16 bit audio board pcmcia from ebay. Super easy setup and adlib music works flawlessly when tested with doom, duke3d and wolf3d. Doesn't appear to support soundblaster unless I'm missing something. The breakout box has a line in, out, mic in and a midi in. Have to jiggle the line out a little bit to get it to output stereo, but what can you expect from the mid 90s. I have the software and manuals if anyone needs to know anything about it.

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Re: PCMCIA Sound Cards

Postby lolo799 » 2014-11-11 @ 18:02

Nice find, the floppy is labeled Voyetra Technologies, is the card a clone of the Turtle Beach?
Could you dump and upload the floppy disk?
And post the specs from the manual?
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Re: PCMCIA Sound Cards

Postby pcm2a » 2014-11-12 @ 15:47

I don't think it's a clone of the Turtle Beach because I read it has no dos support at all, where this card seems to work fine for adlib music in dos. I assume that in windows it wouldn't magically gain SB support but I have no tried. I've sent you the contents of the disks with some more information. There were no specs that I could find in the manuals. One is an installation manual, one voyetra software manual and one that appears to be mostly creative windows media applications.
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Re: PCMCIA Sound Cards

Postby lolo799 » 2014-11-13 @ 12:52

You're right, your card is a clone of the I/O Magic Tempo:
http://books.google.fr/books?id=HvXDMJo ... &q&f=false
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Re: PCMCIA Sound Cards

Postby andyc » 2015-2-03 @ 13:20

Hello! Does anyone know where i can get a PCMCIA sound card that works under DOS? I fixed an old Compaq 486 laptop (awesome DX/2-50Mhz, 12MB RAM beast) and i want to use it to play old DOS games. The IBM one from lolo799's awesome collection looks like it does what i need. I think i only need SB emulation to be able to run most games. At least that's what i remember... Before i upgraded to a true SB16, i had a Yamaha card that did SB Pro emulation under DOS and most games ran fine.
Any suggestions are welcome.
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Re: PCMCIA Sound Cards

Postby bristlehog » 2015-2-06 @ 07:24

I don't really think there are PCMCIA cards with proper SB emulation, since it requires DMA transfers, while PCMCIA standard doesn't support DMA.
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Re: PCMCIA Sound Cards

Postby lolo799 » 2015-2-06 @ 13:08

Andy, finding the IBM 3D card is the tricky part, good luck!
Auctions websites or classified ads are the way to go I'm afraid, that and some luck!

Some cards have SB emulation under DOS but only for real mode DOS games.
Other cards do have SB DMA emulation under Windows 9x, but it won't help you much I think with the specs of your laptop.
All of them (well except for the MIDI only cards) usually have good Adlib FM music, if you can live with only this.
There are some parallel port devices with SB emulation, but for only real mode games as well iirc.
What's your laptop model?

Bristlehog, the IBM 3D one does just that, SB DMA emulation under DOS for protected mode games, and it's the only card that does.
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Re: PCMCIA Sound Cards

Postby bristlehog » 2015-2-06 @ 13:40

I don't quite get it, how is DMA emulated? Is it by a driver?
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Re: PCMCIA Sound Cards

Postby Cloudschatze » 2015-2-06 @ 20:12

bristlehog wrote:I don't quite get it, how is DMA emulated? Is it by a driver?

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Here's IBM's patent:
http://pdfpiw.uspto.gov/.piw?Docid=5784595
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