Let's not talk about those cards.

I have a HD 2900 XT 1GB in an NF4 machine at the moment. I love all that pointless memory bandwidth! Yeah the world will be 100% FP16 texturing by 2007!!!! And who wants to use MSAA anyway - cripple that stuff!!! And it's super at heating and drowning out background noise like your game. 😀

swaaye wrote:

I have a HD 2900 XT 1GB in an NF4 machine at the moment. I love all that pointless memory bandwidth! Yeah the world will be 100% FP16 texturing by 2007!!!! And who wants to use MSAA anyway - cripple that stuff!!! And it's super at heating and drowning out background noise like your game. 😀

I'm sure you never get cold in the winter either!

I'm sure you never get cold in the winter either!

Actually that crown goes to 8800GTX/Ultra. Radeon 2900XT blower cooler was just very inefficient.

The Serpent Rider wrote:

Actually that crown goes to 8800GTX/Ultra. Radeon 2900XT blower cooler was just very inefficient.

Yeah 8800 Ultra's cooler is less annoying. It seems to be mostly a matter of an annoying fan and poor acoustics of the housing. I don't think I know of a ATI cooler that I approve of....

Has anyone ever actually seen one of these mythical HIS Radeon HD3870 AGP cards?

https://www.guru3d.com/articles-pages/compute … e-hammer,4.html
https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/his-hd- … 70-iceq-3.b6352

GDDR4 cards don't exist in retail, but 3850 IceQ3 model has the same PCB and arguably can be called 3860 or 3870LE.

I seen rumors of agp nvidia 8 and 9 cards being sold in china.

Mr. horse wrote:

I seen rumors of agp nvidia 8 and 9 cards being sold in china.

I remember reading that, although a slower AGP GeForce 8800 was planned, nVidia or one of their board partners just couldn't get G80 to work properly with the HSI bridge chip that was used on GeForce 6 and 7 cards.

vehebolum wrote:

I have a agp 8800gt, it hardly works, very buggy and unstable.

Cool. Which motherboard chipsets have you tried it with?

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Since normal 8800GT is pretty much double the speed of Radeon x1950pro, I wonder how agp version of 8800GT would do against Radeon HD 3850 if it exists.

I wonder how agp version of 8800GT would do against Radeon HD 3850 if it exists.

If HSI bridge stopped production at obscure prototype stage, most likely very very bad.

Probably comparable to the original HSI bridged 6800 PCI-E cards on a modern systems - it's horrible buggy mess.

Synaps3 wrote:

For the lower voltage AGP bus 4x and 8x - Radeon HD 4670

For the 3.3V AGP 2x systems - Radeon 9800 Pro or GeForce FX 5950

Aren't Radeons 9800 PRO 1.5V only despite having universal AGP keying?

I had one by Saphire, and one by Herclues - both don't work with AGP port version 1.0 (3.3V)

I've heard some work at 1.5V but I don't know which ones....

No, they work absolutely fine with 3.3v slots. In your case that's just picky motherboard probably. I have a bunch of absolutely different cards which refuse to boot on ASUS P3B-F.

The Serpent Rider wrote:

Probably comparable to the original HSI bridged 6800 PCI-E cards on a modern systems - it's horrible buggy mess.

What kind of bugs? Last time I tried NV45 on Sandy Bridge system, it worked fine. I guess SB no longer deserves the "modern system" sticker... but still much newer than 2004 era HW like the GF 6800.

The Serpent Rider wrote:

No, they work absolutely fine with 3.3v slots. In your case that's just picky motherboard probably. I have a bunch of absolutely different cards which refuse to boot on ASUS P3B-F.

You read my mind - I checked it exactly on ASUS P3B-F only 😁 Have to check it on ABIT BE6-II too then 😉 you are sure I won't damege anything? 😜

Dominus wrote:

He won't reply with this nick

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Mr. horse wrote:

I seen rumors of agp nvidia 8 and 9 cards being sold in china.

Given the amount of 'fake' cards that come out China, I would be wary of any such claims. There are a lot of fake cards floating around which use old outdated chipsets and are flashed to appear like something they are not...similar to what they do with fake SSD's which are flashed into thinking they have capacity that they physically don't. People only realise when write operations fail, or worse, the operation appears to succeed, afterwhich the data is no where to be found on the drive.

https://www.tech-bazaar.com/the-good-and-bad- … -graphics-card/

If you see an 8-bit ISA TitanXp 😵 ... buyer beware!

What kind of bugs? Last time I tried NV45

For some reason all my NV40 + HSI (NV45) cards work with extreme slowdowns in 3D on the Intel X58 + Win7 system. GeForce 7800/7900 or any other non-bridged cards don't exhibit such behavior.

you are sure I won't damege anything?

Yes, 440BX works fine with them. Although I won't risk to put one in a Super Socket 7 board.

Interesting, well the truth is I used winXP and that worked fine. So maybe windows 7 could be the problem? Anyway, GF 6800 Ultra is on my to-benchmark list and this time I am using windows 7 x64 and Sandy Bridge -E, so perhaps I will run into problems too.