PCI Dell TNT2 card not working on 430HX board but works in any other boards.

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PCI Dell TNT2 card not working on 430HX board but works in any other boards.

Postby pentiumspeed » 2019-2-05 @ 04:40

I have a Dell version of TNT2 M64 16MB with two PCI buffers ICs near PCI connector but I'm having a problem with this for intended goal:

Since I only have one socket 7 pentium Micronics M55Hi Plus board based on 430HX chipset, 64MB, 200mhz. Even PCI support is version 2.1 but;

Yet I cannot get this TNT2 M64 card to initialize on boot up, no video. But I can use FX 5200 (128bits) PCI and another PCI video card with no problems. Same TNT2 M64 get initializes fine on any motherboards I have.

Problem with this is finding good PCI video cards can be expensive easily.

Intended goal for this Pentium 200 machine is for DOS games that cannot be run right on PII even at 233mhz with AGP video card (too fast even AGP too?). I thought TNT2 as basic VGA could be faster than these these and but finding anything PCI video cards stronger than S3 or Cirrus Logic video card is not easy.

I have a PIII 500 with BX board working very well but I don't know if this can support some fussy DOS games compatiablity-wise and early, middle Win98se sufficiently?
I have plenty of AGP video cards to choose from. I have few overkill AGP boards for P4 and Athlon XP CPUs as well but this will be built later for 98se/2000 and early XP. For anything else that is happy on XP, I have plenty of PCIe boards to choose from as well and I'm not concerned about this.

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Re: PCI Dell TNT2 card not working on 430HX board but works in any other boards.

Postby STX » 2019-5-10 @ 12:17

I'm surprised that your TNT2 M64 wouldn't work. I'd examine the PCI slot under good lighting. Maybe there is a foreign object that's interfering with the connection.

Alternatively, you could try lowering the speed of your PIII with Throttle.
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Re: PCI Dell TNT2 card not working on 430HX board but works in any other boards.

Postby AlaricD » 2019-5-10 @ 14:26

STX wrote:I'd examine the PCI slot under good lighting. Maybe there is a foreign object that's interfering with the connection.

If it were me troubleshooting, I'd have tried other PCI slots. Also, that FX5200 and another card work fine, so while it'd be a good idea to check the slot, it's not extremely likely that it's the problem.

I've seen those Dell TNT2 M64 cards listed on eBay before, and one listing in particular said:
...while this card has a universal 3.3/5 volt PCI connector, it will mostly likely not work on older motherboards with 5volt only PCI slots. So if you have a Socket 7 / Super Socket 7 based motherboard this card probably will not work. I'd use this card in systems with the Intel 440BX, i810, i815, Via KTxxx chipset or newer.

At the time it made me hesitate to buy it (but had a nagging feeling they weren't quite correct) but not maybe it seems there's something to what they said. My 430FX-based Shuttle HOT-541 needs a decent graphics card :(
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Re: PCI Dell TNT2 card not working on 430HX board but works in any other boards.

Postby pentiumspeed » 2019-5-16 @ 00:50

Been awhile to post another data: Update on this video cards:

I received two S3 video cards while ago: DX and GX and they works perfectly on this 430HX chipset board.

Will ask more in new post later, specificially PII using AGP Riva 128 card as alternative choice but I heard that PII is too "fast" in this context?

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Re: PCI Dell TNT2 card not working on 430HX board but works in any other boards.

Postby appiah4 » 2019-5-16 @ 08:09

Out of curiosity, is this the card you have?

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1989:A500|+512K|ACA500+|C1084S
1992:HIPPO-VL+|U5SX-33|8M|GD5428|CT2290|S2
1995:P5I430VX|P133|32M|S3T64+/MX2|V1|CT3980/32M
1998:S1573S|K6-2/400|64M|V2/SLI|CT4500/32M
2001:GA-6OXT|P3-1200|384M|GF3Ti200|MX300
2004:K8VD|3700+|2G|X1950PRO|SB0350
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