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First post, by matti157

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Hi, I'm trying these 2 VGAs and I don't understand why I have such a big difference at 3dmark. They are very similar cards

Computer and drivers are the same for both cards, I am swapping between one card and the other without even uninstalling the drivers

Specifications:
https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/quadro-fx-3450.c1368
https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/quadro-fx-3400.c1367

With the 3450 I get about 12000 points.

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With the 3400 about 5700

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Why the difference? Is the 3400 broken?

Last edited by matti157 on 2023-02-09, 00:06. Edited 1 time in total.

Reply 1 of 12, by matti157

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I tried to unlock the 16 pipelines with Rivatuner but gained only little, I don't understand. 3450 kills it

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Reply 2 of 12, by matti157

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And now, Afterhours unlocking pipelines, I overclocked it to 400/1000 like a 6800GT
But the result is 6800 😅

6800gt: https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/geforce-6800-gt.c130

But why is the 3450 much faster despite now also having fewer pipelines? I am going crazy

Reply 3 of 12, by pentiumspeed

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Both are 5:12:12:12 but 3400 is run at 350MHz with ram at 900MHz. FX3450 is nearly 75MHz more with ram at 1GHz and cooler.

Also the die is completely different. 3400 is NV40/NV45GL while 3450 is NV41. These are pulled from wiki.

Cheers,

Great Northern aka Canada.

Reply 4 of 12, by Imperious

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Must be driver related. I suspect if You were using WinXP with non modded drivers You wouldn't have this issue.

Justout of curiosity what are the rest of the system specs?

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Reply 5 of 12, by matti157

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Tomorrow I try with xp

I saw now that Nvidia, however, has made official drivers for 9x that support the 6XXX series and the Quadro 3XXX. I don't need to install the unofficial ones then https://www.nvidia.com/it-it/drivers/win9x-archive/

The rest of the configuration is:
-Asus Sabertooth X58
-i7 930 @1.8ghz single core only
-1gb RAM
-Audigy SB0090
-Integrated network via ndis 2

Reply 8 of 12, by agent_x007

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AIDA64, maybe Everest Home (if you want 100% free), HWInfo should be able to do it as well (GPU-z can do it, but that's WinXP+).

Card may have damaged traces or filtering caps to/from PCI-e slot, which prevents it from running at full x16 speed.
It doesn't matter what other cards can do on the same slot at that point.

Reply 9 of 12, by matti157

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Imperious wrote on 2023-02-09, 00:21:

Must be driver related. I suspect if You were using WinXP with non modded drivers You wouldn't have this issue.

Justout of curiosity what are the rest of the system specs?

You won. On Windows XP with the latest available driver these are the results:

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16 pipelines unlocked

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Now I have to figure out which driver to use on Windows 98, I don't want to be forced to switch to XP

Reply 10 of 12, by pentiumspeed

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Which card you can unlock for 16 pipelines? FX3400, or 3450? or both types can do that? Since I have some of these somewhere.

Cheers,

Great Northern aka Canada.

Reply 11 of 12, by matti157

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pentiumspeed wrote on 2023-02-10, 23:37:

Which card you can unlock for 16 pipelines? FX3400, or 3450? or both types can do that? Since I have some of these somewhere.

Cheers,

The FX3400 can be unlocked because it has the NV45 chip. The FX3450 does not, it is NV41