So called "abandonware" is not supported here. The download in the op as far as vogons is concerned is for purchased games. No help will be provided on vogons for so called "abandonware".

DosFreak wrote on 2024-02-11, 04:03:

So called "abandonware" is not supported here. The download in the op as far as vogons is concerned is for purchased games. No help will be provided on vogons for so called "abandonware".

So where can I purchase the 1st hand (new) version of those games nowadays? Do the original developer still sell it?

ChronoReaperX wrote on 2024-02-11, 05:00:

DosFreak wrote on 2024-02-11, 04:03:

So called "abandonware" is not supported here. The download in the op as far as vogons is concerned is for purchased games. No help will be provided on vogons for so called "abandonware".

So where can I purchase the 1st hand (new) version of those games nowadays? Do the original developer still sell it?

The reason why Vogons doesn't want to help with abandonwares is because:
1) Companies get the opportunity to apply a DMCA takedown and file damage lawsuit, and hence not desirable.
2) There are thousand different things you can get from a game download. Could be a bootleg, could be a real game dump, etc.
3) Other reasons I don't remember.

You have to to make sure your game doesn't become an "abandonware". "Abandonware" is termed here termed as a game not easily purchasable and is downloaded from sites by an user, which COULD GET manipulated by the uploader, differentiating the characteristics from a real CD game, and may complicate the help offered by users thinking it's the real game, while also allowing 3rd party to file for copyright infringement. Not only Vogons does this ...

About your game, I can only help if it's a real copy (as I said, an abandonware copy could mean a lot of things, a real copy in a CD of MW2 31st Titanium would have: few folders, a Setup.exe, a 16-bit Installshield, etc).

Myne's installer is supposed to be extracted and run with the bat file. It will detect the Titanium CDs and Orchid CD automatically and you have to go through the CMD wizard.

BEEN_Nath_58 wrote on 2024-02-11, 05:20:

The reason why Vogons doesn't want to help with abandonwares is because: 1) Companies get the opportunity to apply a DMCA takedo […]
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ChronoReaperX wrote on 2024-02-11, 05:00:

DosFreak wrote on 2024-02-11, 04:03:

So called "abandonware" is not supported here. The download in the op as far as vogons is concerned is for purchased games. No help will be provided on vogons for so called "abandonware".

So where can I purchase the 1st hand (new) version of those games nowadays? Do the original developer still sell it?

The reason why Vogons doesn't want to help with abandonwares is because:
1) Companies get the opportunity to apply a DMCA takedown and file damage lawsuit, and hence not desirable.
2) There are thousand different things you can get from a game download. Could be a bootleg, could be a real game dump, etc.
3) Other reasons I don't remember.

You have to to make sure your game doesn't become an "abandonware". "Abandonware" is termed here termed as a game not easily purchasable and is downloaded from sites by an user, which COULD GET manipulated by the uploader, differentiating the characteristics from a real CD game, and may complicate the help offered by users thinking it's the real game, while also allowing 3rd party to file for copyright infringement. Not only Vogons does this ...

About your game, I can only help if it's a real copy (as I said, an abandonware copy could mean a lot of things, a real copy in a CD of MW2 31st Titanium would have: few folders, a Setup.exe, a 16-bit Installshield, etc).

Myne's installer is supposed to be extracted and run with the bat file. It will detect the Titanium CDs and Orchid CD automatically and you have to go through the CMD wizard.

Ok understood.

BTW could y'all guide me on how to make the music play during gameplay?

ChronoReaperX wrote on 2024-02-12, 15:29:

BEEN_Nath_58 wrote on 2024-02-11, 05:20:

The reason why Vogons doesn't want to help with abandonwares is because: 1) Companies get the opportunity to apply a DMCA takedo […]
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ChronoReaperX wrote on 2024-02-11, 05:00:

So where can I purchase the 1st hand (new) version of those games nowadays? Do the original developer still sell it?

The reason why Vogons doesn't want to help with abandonwares is because:
1) Companies get the opportunity to apply a DMCA takedown and file damage lawsuit, and hence not desirable.
2) There are thousand different things you can get from a game download. Could be a bootleg, could be a real game dump, etc.
3) Other reasons I don't remember.

You have to to make sure your game doesn't become an "abandonware". "Abandonware" is termed here termed as a game not easily purchasable and is downloaded from sites by an user, which COULD GET manipulated by the uploader, differentiating the characteristics from a real CD game, and may complicate the help offered by users thinking it's the real game, while also allowing 3rd party to file for copyright infringement. Not only Vogons does this ...

About your game, I can only help if it's a real copy (as I said, an abandonware copy could mean a lot of things, a real copy in a CD of MW2 31st Titanium would have: few folders, a Setup.exe, a 16-bit Installshield, etc).

Myne's installer is supposed to be extracted and run with the bat file. It will detect the Titanium CDs and Orchid CD automatically and you have to go through the CMD wizard.

Ok understood.

BTW could y'all guide me on how to make the music play during gameplay?

Your CD should be in the first CD drive. Make sure the music is discoverable (such as in WMP). Alternatively you can use a cd audio emulator with extracted audio files (eg inmm, DxWnd, etc)

BEEN_Nath_58 wrote on 2024-02-12, 16:58:

ChronoReaperX wrote on 2024-02-12, 15:29:

BEEN_Nath_58 wrote on 2024-02-11, 05:20:

The reason why Vogons doesn't want to help with abandonwares is because: 1) Companies get the opportunity to apply a DMCA takedo […]
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The reason why Vogons doesn't want to help with abandonwares is because:
1) Companies get the opportunity to apply a DMCA takedown and file damage lawsuit, and hence not desirable.
2) There are thousand different things you can get from a game download. Could be a bootleg, could be a real game dump, etc.
3) Other reasons I don't remember.

You have to to make sure your game doesn't become an "abandonware". "Abandonware" is termed here termed as a game not easily purchasable and is downloaded from sites by an user, which COULD GET manipulated by the uploader, differentiating the characteristics from a real CD game, and may complicate the help offered by users thinking it's the real game, while also allowing 3rd party to file for copyright infringement. Not only Vogons does this ...

About your game, I can only help if it's a real copy (as I said, an abandonware copy could mean a lot of things, a real copy in a CD of MW2 31st Titanium would have: few folders, a Setup.exe, a 16-bit Installshield, etc).

Myne's installer is supposed to be extracted and run with the bat file. It will detect the Titanium CDs and Orchid CD automatically and you have to go through the CMD wizard.

Ok understood.

BTW could y'all guide me on how to make the music play during gameplay?

Your CD should be in the first CD drive. Make sure the music is discoverable (such as in WMP). Alternatively you can use a cd audio emulator with extracted audio files (eg inmm, DxWnd, etc)

Sorry for interuppting again, could you tell why I can't install GBL Titanium and Mech 2 31st CC Titanium? The installer says those "Titanium Edition is not configured at this time".

ChronoReaperX wrote on 2024-02-13, 11:49:

BEEN_Nath_58 wrote on 2024-02-12, 16:58:

ChronoReaperX wrote on 2024-02-12, 15:29:

Ok understood.

BTW could y'all guide me on how to make the music play during gameplay?

Your CD should be in the first CD drive. Make sure the music is discoverable (such as in WMP). Alternatively you can use a cd audio emulator with extracted audio files (eg inmm, DxWnd, etc)

Sorry for interuppting again, could you tell why I can't install GBL Titanium and Mech 2 31st CC Titanium? The installer says those "Titanium Edition is not configured at this time".

Sorry I never saw the error message. Where are you getting it, since @myne configured the installer

BEEN_Nath_58 wrote on 2024-02-13, 17:20:

ChronoReaperX wrote on 2024-02-13, 11:49:

BEEN_Nath_58 wrote on 2024-02-12, 16:58:

Your CD should be in the first CD drive. Make sure the music is discoverable (such as in WMP). Alternatively you can use a cd audio emulator with extracted audio files (eg inmm, DxWnd, etc)

Sorry for interuppting again, could you tell why I can't install GBL Titanium and Mech 2 31st CC Titanium? The installer says those "Titanium Edition is not configured at this time".

Sorry I never saw the error message. Where are you getting it, since @myne configured the installer

I've used 2-3 MW2Installers posted here to install around 2 different copies of GBL Titanium and 3 different copies of MW2 31st CC Titanium. With no avail.

BTW what is actually the latest and the most complete MW2installer here? Sorry I am confused. Could you give me the link?

ChronoReaperX wrote on 2024-02-13, 17:44:

BEEN_Nath_58 wrote on 2024-02-13, 17:20:

ChronoReaperX wrote on 2024-02-13, 11:49:

Sorry for interuppting again, could you tell why I can't install GBL Titanium and Mech 2 31st CC Titanium? The installer says those "Titanium Edition is not configured at this time".

Sorry I never saw the error message. Where are you getting it, since @myne configured the installer

I've used 2-3 MW2Installers posted here to install around 2 different copies of GBL Titanium and 3 different copies of MW2 31st CC Titanium. With no avail.

BTW what is actually the latest and the most complete MW2installer here? Sorry I am confused. Could you give me the link?

Ones from og post
A comprehensive guide to install and play MechWarrior 2 on new versions on Windows.

BEEN_Nath_58 wrote on 2024-02-13, 21:10:

ChronoReaperX wrote on 2024-02-13, 17:44:

BEEN_Nath_58 wrote on 2024-02-13, 17:20:

Sorry I never saw the error message. Where are you getting it, since @myne configured the installer

I've used 2-3 MW2Installers posted here to install around 2 different copies of GBL Titanium and 3 different copies of MW2 31st CC Titanium. With no avail.

BTW what is actually the latest and the most complete MW2installer here? Sorry I am confused. Could you give me the link?

Ones from og post
A comprehensive guide to install and play MechWarrior 2 on new versions on Windows.

Thanks.

"Download the latest attachment named TBA.
Install the .sdb file given in the attachment. Open DxWnd and use import the profile given attachment. Set your executable path through DxWnd."

Can I know where I can download the attachment named TBA? I couldn't found any link of it. Any I assume the .sdb file can be installed via the same .bat file?

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BEEN_Nath_58 wrote on 2024-02-13, 21:10:

ChronoReaperX wrote on 2024-02-13, 17:44:

I've used 2-3 MW2Installers posted here to install around 2 different copies of GBL Titanium and 3 different copies of MW2 31st CC Titanium. With no avail.

BTW what is actually the latest and the most complete MW2installer here? Sorry I am confused. Could you give me the link?

Ones from og post
A comprehensive guide to install and play MechWarrior 2 on new versions on Windows.

Thanks.

"Download the latest attachment named TBA.
Install the .sdb file given in the attachment. Open DxWnd and use import the profile given attachment. Set your executable path through DxWnd."

Can I know where I can download the attachment named TBA? I couldn't found any link of it. Any I assume the .sdb file can be installed via the same .bat file?

Thats GBL Win95. Follow the normal Titanium guide which is common for all the 3 Titanium games.

What happens when you run the installer?
I'd like to see the screenshots.

myne wrote on 2024-02-14, 10:03:

What happens when you run the installer?
I'd like to see the screenshots.

BTW I have tried to individually and manually install those 2 Titanium Mech games but I surrender.... I just can't make it work.

ChronoReaperX wrote on 2024-02-14, 13:30:

myne wrote on 2024-02-14, 10:03:

What happens when you run the installer?
I'd like to see the screenshots.

BTW I have tried to individually and manually install those 2 Titanium Mech games but I surrender.... I just can't make it work.

Give a screenshot of your CD folder structure, CD label and the text inside product.ini (I don't have the CD with me right now, but searching for product.ini in the CD folder should give you that)

BEEN_Nath_58 wrote on 2024-02-14, 15:54:

ChronoReaperX wrote on 2024-02-14, 13:30:

myne wrote on 2024-02-14, 10:03:

What happens when you run the installer?
I'd like to see the screenshots.

BTW I have tried to individually and manually install those 2 Titanium Mech games but I surrender.... I just can't make it work.

Give a screenshot of your CD folder structure, CD label and the text inside product.ini (I don't have the CD with me right now, but searching for product.ini in the CD folder should give you that)

This is the copy (CD) of GBL Titanium that failed to be installed by the All-in-One (MW2installer)

This is the copy (CD) of MW2 31st CC Titanium that failed to be installed by the All-in-One (MW2installer)

Okay thanks, I thanks, that should probably help. You can help one step further by telling the CDLABEL (it's the CD name written beside the CD drive letter)

Hopefully myne is reading the thread.

Did you try using the individual installation method. For every Titanium game, use the generic Titanium installation method (not the Win95 GBL or Mercs method)

BEEN_Nath_58 wrote on 2024-02-14, 17:44:

Okay thanks, I thanks, that should probably help. You can help one step further by telling the CDLABEL (it's the CD name written beside the CD drive letter)

Hopefully myne is reading the thread.

Did you try using the individual installation method. For every Titanium game, use the generic Titanium installation method (not the Win95 GBL or Mercs method)

1) For the GBL Titanium the CD label is TITAN_GBL

2) For the MW2 31st CC Titanium the CD label is TITAN_MW2

Thanks for help too

GBL might have been a typo.
MW2 appears to be an edition I haven't seen yet.

There are 40+ editions and some of them require different approaches to install.

Give this a try.

BTW this is the relevant code in the install script which identifies the edition and chooses the method to install:

1       switch ("$cdlabel-$ProductID-$productname") {
2            "MECH2-MW2W-MechWarrior 2"                                  {$CDDRIVE =$letter; $edition="MW2W"; break findcd}
3            "MECH2-MW2A-MechWarrior 2"                                  {$CDDRIVE =$letter; $edition="MW2A"; break findcd}
4            "MECH2-MW2W95-MechWarrior 2"                                {$CDDRIVE =$letter; $edition="MW2W"; break findcd}
5            "TIT-MW2W95-MW2 Titanium Edition"                           {$CDDRIVE =$letter; $edition="TITMW2W95"; break findcd}
6            "TITAN_MW2-MW2W95-Titanium Trilogy"                         {$CDDRIVE =$letter; $edition="TITMW2W95"; break findcd}
7            "GBLWIN95-GBW-Ghost Bear's Legacy"                          {$CDDRIVE =$letter; $edition="GBW"; break findcd}
8            "GBL-GBLW95DOS-Ghost Bear's Legacy"                         {$CDDRIVE =$letter; $edition="GBLW95DOS"; break findcd}
9            "TITAN_GBL-TITW95-Titanium Trilogy"                          {$CDDRIVE =$letter; $edition="TITGBLW95"; break findcd}
10            "MERCS3DFX-MERCS3DFX-Mercenaries 3DFX"                      {$CDDRIVE =$letter; $edition="mercs3dfx"; break findcd}
11            "MERCENARIES-Mercs-W95Mercenaries"                          {$CDDRIVE =$letter; $edition="MercsW95"; break findcd}
12            "Mercenaries-Mercs3DSW95-Mercenaries D3D"                   {$CDDRIVE =$letter; $edition="Mercs3DSW95"; break findcd}
13            "TITAN_MERCS-TITMERW95-Mercenaries Titanium Edition"        {$CDDRIVE =$letter; $edition="TITMERW95"; break findcd}
14            "TITAN_MERCS-TITMERW95-Mercenaries"                         {$CDDRIVE =$letter; $edition="TITMERW95"; break findcd}
15            "BATL_GBL-BtpkW95-BattlePack"                              {$CDDRIVE =$letter; $edition="BPGBL"; break findcd}

So it combines the CDLABEL-ProductName-ProductID and where it has a match, it chooses the edition.

eg, the first one is
"MECH2-MW2W-MechWarrior 2" {$CDDRIVE =$letter; $edition="MW2W"; break findcd}
So where the CDLABEL is MECH2 and the ProductName (product.ini) is MW2W and the ProductID (product.ini) is Mechwarrrior2 it selects the edition MW2W

The edition chosen chooses the install method. Some of them result in the same edition because the same install approach works.
eg the first and third have different CDLABEL-PRODUCTNAME-PRODUCTID, but they both work with the MW2W method.

For your cases, it looks like I forgot a hyphen in this line:
"TITAN_GBL-TITW95-Titanium Trilogy" {$CDDRIVE =$letter; $edition="TITGBLW95"; break findcd}
and I have added this line:
"TITAN_MW2-TITMW2W95-Titanium Trilogy" {$CDDRIVE =$letter; $edition="TITMW2W95"; break findcd}

It's done this way so that people with just a tiny bit of coding knowledge can add editions if they want to, test them, and report back with the results. I am somewhat hoping that over time, people will add to this thread with updated installers which support more editions (and maybe even figure out how to install the mercs patch which I failed at.). Ie, it's an "open source" effort if you will.

Assuming the same method works for yours as the other titaniums, it should work now.

Edit. OOPS mistake with MW231cc. Shouldn't have worked.
Redownload if you have already.

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GBL might have been a typo.
MW2 appears to be an edition I haven't seen yet.

There are 40+ editions and some of them require different approaches to install.

Give this a try.

BTW this is the relevant code in the install script which identifies the edition and chooses the method to install:

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1       switch ("$cdlabel-$ProductID-$productname") {
2            "MECH2-MW2W-MechWarrior 2"                                  {$CDDRIVE =$letter; $edition="MW2W"; break findcd}
3            "MECH2-MW2A-MechWarrior 2"                                  {$CDDRIVE =$letter; $edition="MW2A"; break findcd}
4            "MECH2-MW2W95-MechWarrior 2"                                {$CDDRIVE =$letter; $edition="MW2W"; break findcd}
5            "TIT-MW2W95-MW2 Titanium Edition"                           {$CDDRIVE =$letter; $edition="TITMW2W95"; break findcd}
6            "TITAN_MW2-MW2W95-Titanium Trilogy"                         {$CDDRIVE =$letter; $edition="TITMW2W95"; break findcd}
7            "GBLWIN95-GBW-Ghost Bear's Legacy"                          {$CDDRIVE =$letter; $edition="GBW"; break findcd}
8            "GBL-GBLW95DOS-Ghost Bear's Legacy"                         {$CDDRIVE =$letter; $edition="GBLW95DOS"; break findcd}
9            "TITAN_GBL-TITW95-Titanium Trilogy"                          {$CDDRIVE =$letter; $edition="TITGBLW95"; break findcd}
10            "MERCS3DFX-MERCS3DFX-Mercenaries 3DFX"                      {$CDDRIVE =$letter; $edition="mercs3dfx"; break findcd}
11            "MERCENARIES-Mercs-W95Mercenaries"                          {$CDDRIVE =$letter; $edition="MercsW95"; break findcd}
12            "Mercenaries-Mercs3DSW95-Mercenaries D3D"                   {$CDDRIVE =$letter; $edition="Mercs3DSW95"; break findcd}
13            "TITAN_MERCS-TITMERW95-Mercenaries Titanium Edition"        {$CDDRIVE =$letter; $edition="TITMERW95"; break findcd}
14            "TITAN_MERCS-TITMERW95-Mercenaries"                         {$CDDRIVE =$letter; $edition="TITMERW95"; break findcd}
15            "BATL_GBL-BtpkW95-BattlePack"                              {$CDDRIVE =$letter; $edition="BPGBL"; break findcd}

So it combines the CDLABEL-ProductName-ProductID and where it has a match, it chooses the edition.

eg, the first one is
"MECH2-MW2W-MechWarrior 2" {$CDDRIVE =$letter; $edition="MW2W"; break findcd}
So where the CDLABEL is MECH2 and the ProductName (product.ini) is MW2W and the ProductID (product.ini) is Mechwarrrior2 it selects the edition MW2W

The edition chosen chooses the install method. Some of them result in the same edition because the same install approach works.
eg the first and third have different CDLABEL-PRODUCTNAME-PRODUCTID, but they both work with the MW2W method.

For your cases, it looks like I forgot a hyphen in this line:
"TITAN_GBL-TITW95-Titanium Trilogy" {$CDDRIVE =$letter; $edition="TITGBLW95"; break findcd}
and I have added this line:
"TITAN_MW2-TITMW2W95-Titanium Trilogy" {$CDDRIVE =$letter; $edition="TITMW2W95"; break findcd}

It's done this way so that people with just a tiny bit of coding knowledge can add editions if they want to, test them, and report back with the results. I am somewhat hoping that over time, people will add to this thread with updated installers which support more editions (and maybe even figure out how to install the mercs patch which I failed at.). Ie, it's an "open source" effort if you will.

Assuming the same method works for yours as the other titaniums, it should work now.

Edit. OOPS mistake with MW231cc. Shouldn't have worked.
Redownload if you have already.

Thanks Myne.... I can confirm that my copy of GBL Titanium now works but the MW2 31st CC still not as you can see in the screenshot attached: