red-ray wrote on 2021-10-27, 15:30:
dionb wrote on 2021-10-27, 15:18:
red-ray wrote on 2021-10-27, 15:12:
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I am pointing out it's easy to get WFW 3.11 to talk to Windows 10/11 and that your statement "trying to use that to get everything from a 5150 to a Windows 10 machine talking is really, really tough " is at best misleading.
I suspect it would take me less time to get OP to setup his W10 system to be able to talk to WFW 3.11 than I have spent pointing out out your posts are misleading/incorrect.
It may be easy to get WfW3.11 to talk to Windows 10, but that doens't help you get the 5150 talking to the Windows 10 box ,so I stand by my statement. Now, how about helping OP with something that will work on his ancient hardware instead of going on about things that won't?
As I specified before you should not be talking about the 5150 , but rather the software running on the 5150, what software are you expecting to run of the 5150? I feel you should post a link to it's specification.
The 5150 is the original IBM PC from 1981:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_Personal_Computer
- 8088 CPU@4.77MHz
- 16kB (really...) to 640kB RAM originally installed
- cassette tape or 5.25" SS or DS floppy drives
- 5 8b "ISA" slots
- MDA or CGA graphics (originally)
- 100% PC compatible (because it *is* the PC everything else is compatible with)
Of course, 40 years later most systems have been upgraded, so 16kB RAM and cassette tape only is highly unlikely, most have at least 512kB RAM and a floppy drive, many have been upgraded to Hercules or EGA graphics. But unless there's a really fancy accelerator card in there, that 4.77MHz 8088 is going to be the same.
Once we know what software the 5150 is running it's then sensible to talk about what networking options are possible
I suspect Microsoft Network Client 3.0 for DOS will talk to Windows 10 provided TCP/IP is selected.
Pretty safe to assume DOS. Anyone running anything else on it is likely to be a lot more clued-up, if only to the fact they're running something unusual (CP/M, SCO Xenix, that kind of thing). Question is which version. Anything from 3.3 up will run that MS Network Client 3.0, but it could be as old as MS-DOS 1.0.
Reading the readme for the client, 429kB of memory is needed to run the installer. That generally shouldn't be a problem, but on a 5150 it does need checking.
Caluser2000 wrote on 2021-10-27, 18:32:
dionb wrote on 2021-10-27, 18:16:
Caluser2000 wrote on 2021-10-27, 15:24:
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Suuggesting WfW 3.11 will work on a 286 shows your lack of knowledge wrt networking.
Rather lack of knowledge of difference in specs between W3.1 (which will) and WfW which won't - and that I already corrected.
For someone with such a 'lack of knowledge wrt networking' I just gave a pretty detailed step-for-step guide of what you need with the exact four cards OP has to get mTCP running, complete with links to the drivers. Sure your're addressing the right person in this way?
No. Just you. You were the the one who post incorrect system requirement for WfW3.11.
Yep, I clearly failed at the most important of all measures of networking knowledge.