VOGONS


Reply 22180 of 23296, by zapbuzz

User metadata
Rank Oldbie
Rank
Oldbie

i tried to put an Gainward Nvidia GeForce 6800 GS 512MB NA/6800GXTD52-PM8370 gpu into an abit vp6 but the bios didn't agree. I therefore put it in a hot Prescott machine (foxconn agp Socket LGA775) it runs at 8x but its set for 4x for stability with the slower than DDR2 memory running at 400mhz.
That tower came with windows 7 but driver support dried up in xp so it was so much happier when i put xp on it even the usb hubs built in started to work. I guess due to SATA 150 built in I may even set up a RAID 0 one day for a kick I mean it has 2 threads and a 1000 watt PSU it gets warm maybe kick out the prescott for something cooler i dunno but its stable anyhow so I am gonna have some more fun on mr prescott the hair dryer 🤣.
These Socket LGA775 / AGP 8X boards are not in abundance these days everyone moved onto vista and seven and forgot them or threw them away that time was when PCIE first came out all them old cards were simular sizes to agp like 128, 256 , 512mb 🤣 still under $20 on ebay those PCIE
i wonder if Socket LGA775 came out before PCIE

Just a question: what bench can i test this gpu for free to see if its healthy? under xp please?

Reply 22181 of 23296, by zapbuzz

User metadata
Rank Oldbie
Rank
Oldbie
zapbuzz wrote on 2022-07-12, 09:03:
i tried to put an Gainward Nvidia GeForce 6800 GS 512MB NA/6800GXTD52-PM8370 gpu into an abit vp6 but the bios didn't agree. I t […]
Show full quote

i tried to put an Gainward Nvidia GeForce 6800 GS 512MB NA/6800GXTD52-PM8370 gpu into an abit vp6 but the bios didn't agree. I therefore put it in a hot Prescott machine (foxconn agp Socket LGA775) it runs at 8x but its set for 4x for stability with the slower than DDR2 memory running at 400mhz.
That tower came with windows 7 but driver support dried up in xp so it was so much happier when i put xp on it even the usb hubs built in started to work. I guess due to SATA 150 built in I may even set up a RAID 0 one day for a kick I mean it has 2 threads and a 1000 watt PSU it gets warm maybe kick out the prescott for something cooler i dunno but its stable anyhow so I am gonna have some more fun on mr prescott the hair dryer 🤣.
These Socket LGA775 / AGP 8X boards are not in abundance these days everyone moved onto vista and seven and forgot them or threw them away that time was when PCIE first came out all them old cards were simular sizes to agp like 128, 256 , 512mb 🤣 still under $20 on ebay those PCIE
i wonder if Socket LGA775 came out before PCIE

Just a question: what bench can i test this gpu for free to see if its healthy? under xp please?

I ran this bench it raised its temps but survived i'm more confident my card is good.

Attachments

  • untitled.JPG
    Filename
    untitled.JPG
    File size
    50.71 KiB
    Views
    940 views
    File comment
    bench
    File license
    Fair use/fair dealing exception

Reply 22182 of 23296, by dionb

User metadata
Rank l33t
Rank
l33t

Had a retro moment on my current Ryzen hexacore today. I still swear by Microsoft Trackball Explorers. They are great and they are fortunately solidly built. But after a couple of decades of daily use things start to fail.

The past few days, the right mouse button on my main unit was getting less and less responsive until today it basically completely failed. So disassembled it, found a loose connection and gunk. Cleaned, re-connected and started to re-assemble, until the plastic of buttons 4 and 5 shattered. I had been very gentle, it had just degraded to the point of being too brittle to be handled. Tried to super-glue it but that changed the length subtly and it no longer fit...

So I grabbed my for-parts spare, one that had had a cup of coffee poured over it then dropped. Bad scratches on the top, missing RMB plastic and lower PCB polluted, but otherwise much newer. Took both apart and basically merged lower half of the used-up unit with upper half of the spare. End result on the right, bad bits on the left.

16576241960960.jpg
Filename
16576241960960.jpg
File size
156.93 KiB
Views
923 views
File license
CC-BY-4.0

It's alive again!

Some issues with scroll wheel though so need to open it up again. Worst-case I still have one more heavily used ones and two basically new spares. Am seriously considering finding a 3D scanning service so I can disassemble one of them to scan every case part for later manufacture if it fails - even unused plastic gets brittle and the day will come when the last unit crumbles. As there's no sign of a decent replacement (and yes, I've tried pretty much every alternative out there), I want to be ready.

Edit:
Yep, scroll wheel completely died after replacing the parts. Now had to re-replace with the old one. All working now, thankfully.

Last edited by dionb on 2022-07-12, 13:57. Edited 1 time in total.

Reply 22183 of 23296, by holdencars11

User metadata
Rank Newbie
Rank
Newbie

Messing around with Abit NF7-S with a 9600XT, took ages to find memory modules that would work with decent stability...

Attachments

Ryzen5 1600AF/ASRock B450Mac/16Gb/HD7750
i7 2600K/P67A-C43/16GB/GTX560
i7 960/MSI X58 Pro/8GB/8800GTS
Athlon II x4 620/GA-M56-S3/8GB/8800GTS
Duron 1300/A7S333/512MB/MX440
6x86MX PR200/PC Chips M571/64MB/ET6000
NEC PowerMate1 268 10MHz
And another 40 rigs.

Reply 22184 of 23296, by CrFr

User metadata
Rank Newbie
Rank
Newbie

Framed couple of old press photos to put them on display in my retro cave. Usually I'm not at all into collecting photos, but I own the machines in these photos, so I tought that's cool. IBM PS/2 Model 30 and Model P70.

It looks much better in person, photo doesn't do it justice. Frame I picked up from a fleamarket.

20220713_131158749_iOS_.jpg
Filename
20220713_131158749_iOS_.jpg
File size
334.89 KiB
Views
846 views
File license
Public domain

Markings from the backside.

20220713_130504475_iOS_.jpg
Filename
20220713_130504475_iOS_.jpg
File size
567.56 KiB
Views
846 views
File license
Public domain

"The Model 30 is the link between the personal computer and the new Personal System/2. With its Intel 8086 microprocessor clocked at 8 MHz without a waiting cycle, its integrated functions, e.g. the new MCGA screen interface, it offers a spectrum of performance, that is higher than the IBM PC XT."

Date stamp in the P70 photo says 16th of May 1989.

Reply 22186 of 23296, by bofh.fromhell

User metadata
Rank Member
Rank
Member
SETBLASTER wrote on 2022-07-13, 14:25:
I'm so happy i got once of these i was scared of not booting or broken, but it worked at first try. […]
Show full quote

I'm so happy i got once of these
i was scared of not booting or broken, but it worked at first try.

IMG-20220713-111132.jpg

Great motherboard!
And if its anything like mine:
Re: Bought these (retro) hardware today
It's gonna need a recap eventually.
Just a few weeks after I tested mine some caps started bulging.

Reply 22187 of 23296, by Nexxen

User metadata
Rank Oldbie
Rank
Oldbie
bofh.fromhell wrote on 2022-07-13, 14:46:
Great motherboard! And if its anything like mine: Re: Bought these (retro) hardware today It's gonna need a recap eventually. Ju […]
Show full quote
SETBLASTER wrote on 2022-07-13, 14:25:
I'm so happy i got once of these i was scared of not booting or broken, but it worked at first try. […]
Show full quote

I'm so happy i got once of these
i was scared of not booting or broken, but it worked at first try.

IMG-20220713-111132.jpg

Great motherboard!
And if its anything like mine:
Re: Bought these (retro) hardware today
It's gonna need a recap eventually.
Just a few weeks after I tested mine some caps started bulging.

The nice thing is when you are testing it a cap opens with smoke and some sound 😀
Quite a scene 🤣

PC#1 Pentium 233 MMX - 98SE
PC#2 PIII-1Ghz - 98SE/W2K

Reply 22188 of 23296, by luckybob

User metadata
Rank l33t
Rank
l33t

Also, the V-droop mod is highly recommended if you are going to overclock.

I remember doing it when that board was new. ^.^

It is a mistake to think you can solve any major problems just with potatoes.

Reply 22189 of 23296, by SETBLASTER

User metadata
Rank Member
Rank
Member
bofh.fromhell wrote on 2022-07-13, 14:46:
Great motherboard! And if its anything like mine: Re: Bought these (retro) hardware today It's gonna need a recap eventually. Ju […]
Show full quote

Great motherboard!
And if its anything like mine:
Re: Bought these (retro) hardware today
It's gonna need a recap eventually.
Just a few weeks after I tested mine some caps started bulging.

wow you even got the box and everything! i was able to get this board very cheap with io shield but no box (about 20 dollars for everything) and it came inside a chieftec dragon case aluminum. I think the owner sure knew about OC because it came with a Pentium 4 HT 2.8C , SL6Z5 (M0) included. Mine i think has different color caps than yours, mine the motherboard is revision 2.0

since you have the box, is this the exact cd it came in your box? https://archive.org/details/ASUS_P4P800-P4C00_drivers

because i know asus also released a p4c800 without the "-E" i want to know if the cd is the same, or if its different, perhaps you can help me by uploading an iso image, i really like to have the original cd contents just for fun installing experience.

Reply 22190 of 23296, by bofh.fromhell

User metadata
Rank Member
Rank
Member
SETBLASTER wrote on 2022-07-13, 15:50:
wow you even got the box and everything! i was able to get this board very cheap with io shield but no box (about 20 dollars for […]
Show full quote
bofh.fromhell wrote on 2022-07-13, 14:46:
Great motherboard! And if its anything like mine: Re: Bought these (retro) hardware today It's gonna need a recap eventually. Ju […]
Show full quote

Great motherboard!
And if its anything like mine:
Re: Bought these (retro) hardware today
It's gonna need a recap eventually.
Just a few weeks after I tested mine some caps started bulging.

wow you even got the box and everything! i was able to get this board very cheap with io shield but no box (about 20 dollars for everything) and it came inside a chieftec dragon case aluminum. I think the owner sure knew about OC because it came with a Pentium 4 HT 2.8C , SL6Z5 (M0) included. Mine i think has different color caps than yours, mine the motherboard is revision 2.0

since you have the box, is this the exact cd it came in your box? https://archive.org/details/ASUS_P4P800-P4C00_drivers

because i know asus also released a p4c800 without the "-E" i want to know if the cd is the same, or if its different, perhaps you can help me by uploading an iso image, i really like to have the original cd contents just for fun installing experience.

Yea complete in box, it wasn't new in box because I noticed some dust on the board.
But as near as.

This is my CD:

kcQQwH7l.jpg

So a slightly older version then the archived one.
And IIRC the -E stood for "Ethernet", not necessarily the inclusion of one but in this case the -E models get an Intel "CSA" NIC vs the non-E getting a realtek.

Reply 22191 of 23296, by SETBLASTER

User metadata
Rank Member
Rank
Member
bofh.fromhell wrote on 2022-07-13, 17:19:
Yea complete in box, it wasn't new in box because I noticed some dust on the board. But as near as. […]
Show full quote
SETBLASTER wrote on 2022-07-13, 15:50:
wow you even got the box and everything! i was able to get this board very cheap with io shield but no box (about 20 dollars for […]
Show full quote
bofh.fromhell wrote on 2022-07-13, 14:46:
Great motherboard! And if its anything like mine: Re: Bought these (retro) hardware today It's gonna need a recap eventually. Ju […]
Show full quote

Great motherboard!
And if its anything like mine:
Re: Bought these (retro) hardware today
It's gonna need a recap eventually.
Just a few weeks after I tested mine some caps started bulging.

wow you even got the box and everything! i was able to get this board very cheap with io shield but no box (about 20 dollars for everything) and it came inside a chieftec dragon case aluminum. I think the owner sure knew about OC because it came with a Pentium 4 HT 2.8C , SL6Z5 (M0) included. Mine i think has different color caps than yours, mine the motherboard is revision 2.0

since you have the box, is this the exact cd it came in your box? https://archive.org/details/ASUS_P4P800-P4C00_drivers

because i know asus also released a p4c800 without the "-E" i want to know if the cd is the same, or if its different, perhaps you can help me by uploading an iso image, i really like to have the original cd contents just for fun installing experience.

Yea complete in box, it wasn't new in box because I noticed some dust on the board.
But as near as.

This is my CD:

So a slightly older version then the archived one.
And IIRC the -E stood for "Ethernet", not necessarily the inclusion of one but in this case the -E models get an Intel "CSA" NIC vs the non-E getting a realtek.

can you share an iso of that CD one over mediafire or any other site upload?

Reply 22192 of 23296, by debs3759

User metadata
Rank Oldbie
Rank
Oldbie
SETBLASTER wrote on 2022-07-13, 17:46:
bofh.fromhell wrote on 2022-07-13, 17:19:
Yea complete in box, it wasn't new in box because I noticed some dust on the board. But as near as. […]
Show full quote
SETBLASTER wrote on 2022-07-13, 15:50:

wow you even got the box and everything! i was able to get this board very cheap with io shield but no box (about 20 dollars for everything) and it came inside a chieftec dragon case aluminum. I think the owner sure knew about OC because it came with a Pentium 4 HT 2.8C , SL6Z5 (M0) included. Mine i think has different color caps than yours, mine the motherboard is revision 2.0

since you have the box, is this the exact cd it came in your box? https://archive.org/details/ASUS_P4P800-P4C00_drivers

because i know asus also released a p4c800 without the "-E" i want to know if the cd is the same, or if its different, perhaps you can help me by uploading an iso image, i really like to have the original cd contents just for fun installing experience.

Yea complete in box, it wasn't new in box because I noticed some dust on the board.
But as near as.

This is my CD:

So a slightly older version then the archived one.
And IIRC the -E stood for "Ethernet", not necessarily the inclusion of one but in this case the -E models get an Intel "CSA" NIC vs the non-E getting a realtek.

can you share an iso of that CD one over mediafire or any other site upload?

Sharing on Vogonsdrivers would ensure more long term availability

See my graphics card database at www.gpuzoo.com
Constantly being worked on. Feel free to message me with any corrections or details of cards you would like me to research and add.

Reply 22193 of 23296, by bofh.fromhell

User metadata
Rank Member
Rank
Member
SETBLASTER wrote on 2022-07-13, 17:46:

can you share an iso of that CD one over mediafire or any other site upload?

Archive.org it is:
https://archive.org/details/intel-875-865_202207

Reply 22194 of 23296, by debs3759

User metadata
Rank Oldbie
Rank
Oldbie
bofh.fromhell wrote on 2022-07-13, 20:03:
SETBLASTER wrote on 2022-07-13, 17:46:

can you share an iso of that CD one over mediafire or any other site upload?

Archive.org it is:
https://archive.org/details/intel-875-865_202207

Thanks

See my graphics card database at www.gpuzoo.com
Constantly being worked on. Feel free to message me with any corrections or details of cards you would like me to research and add.

Reply 22195 of 23296, by SETBLASTER

User metadata
Rank Member
Rank
Member
bofh.fromhell wrote on 2022-07-13, 20:03:
SETBLASTER wrote on 2022-07-13, 17:46:

can you share an iso of that CD one over mediafire or any other site upload?

Archive.org it is:
https://archive.org/details/intel-875-865_202207

thank you so much!
sometimes it's all about building a retro PC and installing it's drivers cd, it's like a trip un time

Reply 22196 of 23296, by myrsnipe

User metadata
Rank Newbie
Rank
Newbie

Put together the case and board i got these past days, it came with a Cyrix DX4 clone and the award bios started it's repeating high pitch beeping aka CPU overheat. It has a heatsink and fan that i confirmed is working... Going to check it tomorrow and repaste it (who knows how many decades since it was applied). Hope that solves it otherwise I'm in for some debugging. I did check the PSU before ever powering it and it works perfectly (in fact it was brand new in box with the case). Guess I should double check the jumpers again, but im fairly sure they are correct for a Cyrix DX4 100MHz as by the manual

Attachments

  • DSC_0154.JPG
    Filename
    DSC_0154.JPG
    File size
    1.32 MiB
    Views
    686 views
    File license
    Public domain

Reply 22198 of 23296, by Joakim

User metadata
Rank Oldbie
Rank
Oldbie

I bought the June edition of Swedish PC Gamer from 1998. Read about upcoming games like Diablo 2, Baldur's Gate and Ultima IX. I have never played the Ultima Series but it a really seems quite cool.

I get really nostalgic reading these old magazines, and wish I kept them.

Of course it did not come with the demo cd but possibly I can find it on archive.org. It contained a demo of the Swedish racing game Motorhead that I remember had very good graphics. Not that racing is normally my style but maybe the demo would be fun to try again.

Reply 22199 of 23296, by holdencars11

User metadata
Rank Newbie
Rank
Newbie

Many years ago I purchaced an Amaze HD3650 AGP Brand New on clearance from MSY Clayton (local parts chain shop). Australians will know MSY from their parts.pdf pricelist

I haven't ever used the card in a build, but decided to do a Fast AGP build with a Sempron 2800+ Socket 754.
After the AGP Hotfix drivers were installed, games would run, but crash shortly into the game, with the VPU Recover function detecting an error, including benchmarks like 3dMark2001.
I tried all the many variations of Hotfix drivers, but not could resolve the instibility. Tried disabling Fast Writes, AGP 8X, Calibration Cycle.... Nothing helped
Tried other systems like P4 3.2 etc, all wth the same results. I concluded that the video card was faulty.

I then was looking in the Catalyst drivers, and noteced that the card ID mentioned it was a 1GB model, when this was definately a 512MB version.
I then through about all those recent "Wish" fake flashed cards and the similar chashes they created....... I deceided to flash this card.
Found a Visiontek HD3650 512MB AGP BIOS on techpowerup, and flashed it....
Low and behold, the card now works flawlessly.
The Visiontek was clocked much lower than the Amaze, but Overdrive fixed that.

Who knows how it ended up with a 1GB filename in the ROM from the factory, or if it was just something flaky with the BIOS version, but all good now...

Spent many hours troubleshooting drivers when that wasn't the problem 🤣

Attachments

Last edited by holdencars11 on 2022-07-14, 12:42. Edited 1 time in total.

Ryzen5 1600AF/ASRock B450Mac/16Gb/HD7750
i7 2600K/P67A-C43/16GB/GTX560
i7 960/MSI X58 Pro/8GB/8800GTS
Athlon II x4 620/GA-M56-S3/8GB/8800GTS
Duron 1300/A7S333/512MB/MX440
6x86MX PR200/PC Chips M571/64MB/ET6000
NEC PowerMate1 268 10MHz
And another 40 rigs.