Baoran wrote on 2022-07-25, 00:04:

What I hate/fear the most is that after getting all the parts and building the pc there is some kind of problem/instability with it that no matter what you try to do you cant figure out what is causing it and how to fix it and you have to give up on it.

At which point your problem hunting skills should kick in and you start removing parts till you find the part that is causing the problem, usually its only one of a few parts that will cause problems. (Unless its the PSU .. because its always the last thing you suspect)

Process of elimination !

Making sure the GART driver doesn't go stupid.

TrashPanda wrote on 2022-07-24, 23:52:

Not sure if I should be offended or not ...very few Aussies own a Boomerang or Didgeridoo and it would be wrong to ever used the […]
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Peter.Mengel wrote on 2022-07-24, 23:31:

Sadly? Did you ever watch this BIG SPIDERS videos of australians? Or Snakes and all other nightmarish stuff? Be happy you can pe […]
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chrismeyer6 wrote on 2022-07-24, 22:58:

Sadly no. I'm in the states

Sadly? Did you ever watch this BIG SPIDERS videos of australians? Or Snakes and all other nightmarish stuff? Be happy you can pew pew pew them legal with youre .45 away. ^^
Australians like HMM do i use my didgeridoo or my Boomerang today...
While we germans like singing itzi bitzi spinne...drinking our Weißbier and eating sauerkraut. And dont give a sh.. about animals at all.

Not sure if I should be offended or not ...very few Aussies own a Boomerang or Didgeridoo and it would be wrong to ever used them to kill a spider .. thats what Thongs and Mortien are for. If the spider is a Funnel Web or Mouse spider then use your shoes and dont miss or the only thing youll have is a very pissed off spider hell bent on making you its next victim.

And yes I mean Victim a bite from either means death if you dont get your ass to the hospital and get Anti-Venom within 15-20 mins. (Funnel Webs are particularly aggressive/territorial and wander about their domain)

Check out the fangs on this
Spider.jpg

Yes they can bite through clothing , gloves and even the tops of your shoes.

Dont feel offended i was jooking arround. Did use some stereotype just for the fun.
Most common spider in germany is a Webberknecht or a Zitterspinne both are very easy and dont cobweb.
We say if you have one of these in youre house, you have a good climate at home so no mould or bad air....
They are Small either like...3-5 cm while the body itself is just like a pin.

Peter.Mengel wrote on 2022-07-25, 00:17:

Dont feel offended i was jooking arround. Did use some stereotype just for the fun. Most common spider in germany is a Webberkne […]
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TrashPanda wrote on 2022-07-24, 23:52:

Not sure if I should be offended or not ...very few Aussies own a Boomerang or Didgeridoo and it would be wrong to ever used the […]
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Peter.Mengel wrote on 2022-07-24, 23:31:

Sadly? Did you ever watch this BIG SPIDERS videos of australians? Or Snakes and all other nightmarish stuff? Be happy you can pew pew pew them legal with youre .45 away. ^^
Australians like HMM do i use my didgeridoo or my Boomerang today...
While we germans like singing itzi bitzi spinne...drinking our Weißbier and eating sauerkraut. And dont give a sh.. about animals at all.

Not sure if I should be offended or not ...very few Aussies own a Boomerang or Didgeridoo and it would be wrong to ever used them to kill a spider .. thats what Thongs and Mortien are for. If the spider is a Funnel Web or Mouse spider then use your shoes and dont miss or the only thing youll have is a very pissed off spider hell bent on making you its next victim.

And yes I mean Victim a bite from either means death if you dont get your ass to the hospital and get Anti-Venom within 15-20 mins. (Funnel Webs are particularly aggressive/territorial and wander about their domain)

Check out the fangs on this
Spider.jpg

Yes they can bite through clothing , gloves and even the tops of your shoes.

Dont feel offended i was jooking arround. Did use some stereotype just for the fun.
Most common spider in germany is a Webberknecht or a Zitterspinne both are very easy and dont cobweb.
We say if you have one of these in youre house, you have a good climate at home so no mould or bad air....
They are Small either like...3-5 cm while the body itself is just like a pin.

We call the Daddy Long Legs or Cranefly in the UK.

The Serpent Rider wrote on 2022-07-24, 23:46:

I accidently a whole PC case.

?

You accidentally what a PC case?

debs3759 wrote on 2022-07-25, 00:30:

Peter.Mengel wrote on 2022-07-25, 00:17:

Dont feel offended i was jooking arround. Did use some stereotype just for the fun. Most common spider in germany is a Webberkne […]
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TrashPanda wrote on 2022-07-24, 23:52:

Not sure if I should be offended or not ...very few Aussies own a Boomerang or Didgeridoo and it would be wrong to ever used the […]
Show full quote

Not sure if I should be offended or not ...very few Aussies own a Boomerang or Didgeridoo and it would be wrong to ever used them to kill a spider .. thats what Thongs and Mortien are for. If the spider is a Funnel Web or Mouse spider then use your shoes and dont miss or the only thing youll have is a very pissed off spider hell bent on making you its next victim.

And yes I mean Victim a bite from either means death if you dont get your ass to the hospital and get Anti-Venom within 15-20 mins. (Funnel Webs are particularly aggressive/territorial and wander about their domain)

Check out the fangs on this
Spider.jpg

Yes they can bite through clothing , gloves and even the tops of your shoes.

Dont feel offended i was jooking arround. Did use some stereotype just for the fun.
Most common spider in germany is a Webberknecht or a Zitterspinne both are very easy and dont cobweb.
We say if you have one of these in youre house, you have a good climate at home so no mould or bad air....
They are Small either like...3-5 cm while the body itself is just like a pin.

We call the Daddy Long Legs or Cranefly in the UK.

Opa Langbein is it called here to sometimes by the older,
would translate to grandfather long legs. So rly close to the meaning 😀

debs3759 wrote on 2022-07-25, 00:31:

The Serpent Rider wrote on 2022-07-24, 23:46:

I accidently a whole PC case.

?

You accidentally what a PC case?

Glad you said so. Cause i was confused and thought maybe i dont get it with my bad english skillz...but it seems wrong to me even as a non native speaker xD
Maybe we better wont know what he did with the case....the INTERNET can be a shaddy place! ^^

The possibility of not being able to match the beiges of my PC case, floppy, and CD-ROM always strikes fear into my heart.

TrashPanda wrote on 2022-07-25, 00:09:

Baoran wrote on 2022-07-25, 00:04:

What I hate/fear the most is that after getting all the parts and building the pc there is some kind of problem/instability with it that no matter what you try to do you cant figure out what is causing it and how to fix it and you have to give up on it.

At which point your problem hunting skills should kick in and you start removing parts till you find the part that is causing the problem, usually its only one of a few parts that will cause problems. (Unless its the PSU .. because its always the last thing you suspect)

Process of elimination !

That is not the problem. In last 3 cases it ended up being the motherboard, but since the motherboard is the part that you build your system around and you might have been looking for that specific motherboard for a year or more it basically prevents you from finishing it.

Baoran wrote on 2022-07-25, 01:22:

TrashPanda wrote on 2022-07-25, 00:09:

Baoran wrote on 2022-07-25, 00:04:

What I hate/fear the most is that after getting all the parts and building the pc there is some kind of problem/instability with it that no matter what you try to do you cant figure out what is causing it and how to fix it and you have to give up on it.

At which point your problem hunting skills should kick in and you start removing parts till you find the part that is causing the problem, usually its only one of a few parts that will cause problems. (Unless its the PSU .. because its always the last thing you suspect)

Process of elimination !

That is not the problem. In last 3 cases it ended up being the motherboard, but since the motherboard is the part that you build your system around and you might have been looking for that specific motherboard for a year or more it basically prevents you from finishing it.

as much as that situation sucks you did at least find the issue no ?

That said .. like hell I would let a specific motherboard stop me from finishing any build, motherboards can be changed/switched as there will always be another just as capable board out there. (And as always that specific motherboard will pop up again on Evilbay, I'm looking at you ASUS Rampage Extreme !, though I do have two of them now)

badmojo wrote on 2022-07-25, 00:59:

The possibility of not being able to match the beiges of my PC case, floppy, and CD-ROM always strikes fear into my heart.

Heh, I have a baby AT minitower on which the 3 drives, bay cover, case front and metal chassis each have a slightly different beige color. It looks like ass, and despite many attempts to swap drives there's always a mismatch.

I've nicknamed it "50 shades of beige".

Recently I got a couple of matching Epson drives, one 3.5'' and the other 5.25'', both grey color so totally not beige, but the stark contrast with the rest of the case should look better than the slight variations I have currently. Still need to decide what to do with the bay cover, I'm thinking about spray painting it but it will probably turn out awful.

Peter.Mengel wrote on 2022-07-25, 00:17:

Dont feel offended i was jooking arround. Did use some stereotype just for the fun. Most common spider in germany is a Webberkne […]
Show full quote

TrashPanda wrote on 2022-07-24, 23:52:

Not sure if I should be offended or not ...very few Aussies own a Boomerang or Didgeridoo and it would be wrong to ever used the […]
Show full quote

Peter.Mengel wrote on 2022-07-24, 23:31:

Sadly? Did you ever watch this BIG SPIDERS videos of australians? Or Snakes and all other nightmarish stuff? Be happy you can pew pew pew them legal with youre .45 away. ^^
Australians like HMM do i use my didgeridoo or my Boomerang today...
While we germans like singing itzi bitzi spinne...drinking our Weißbier and eating sauerkraut. And dont give a sh.. about animals at all.

Not sure if I should be offended or not ...very few Aussies own a Boomerang or Didgeridoo and it would be wrong to ever used them to kill a spider .. thats what Thongs and Mortien are for. If the spider is a Funnel Web or Mouse spider then use your shoes and dont miss or the only thing youll have is a very pissed off spider hell bent on making you its next victim.

And yes I mean Victim a bite from either means death if you dont get your ass to the hospital and get Anti-Venom within 15-20 mins. (Funnel Webs are particularly aggressive/territorial and wander about their domain)

Check out the fangs on this
Spider.jpg

Yes they can bite through clothing , gloves and even the tops of your shoes.

Dont feel offended i was jooking arround. Did use some stereotype just for the fun.
Most common spider in germany is a Webberknecht or a Zitterspinne both are very easy and dont cobweb.
We say if you have one of these in youre house, you have a good climate at home so no mould or bad air....
They are Small either like...3-5 cm while the body itself is just like a pin.

AFAIK, these are harmless to humans . I find them rather cute, TBH .

darry wrote on 2022-07-25, 03:03:

Peter.Mengel wrote on 2022-07-25, 00:17:

Dont feel offended i was jooking arround. Did use some stereotype just for the fun. Most common spider in germany is a Webberkne […]
Show full quote

TrashPanda wrote on 2022-07-24, 23:52:

Not sure if I should be offended or not ...very few Aussies own a Boomerang or Didgeridoo and it would be wrong to ever used the […]
Show full quote

Not sure if I should be offended or not ...very few Aussies own a Boomerang or Didgeridoo and it would be wrong to ever used them to kill a spider .. thats what Thongs and Mortien are for. If the spider is a Funnel Web or Mouse spider then use your shoes and dont miss or the only thing youll have is a very pissed off spider hell bent on making you its next victim.

And yes I mean Victim a bite from either means death if you dont get your ass to the hospital and get Anti-Venom within 15-20 mins. (Funnel Webs are particularly aggressive/territorial and wander about their domain)

Check out the fangs on this
Spider.jpg

Yes they can bite through clothing , gloves and even the tops of your shoes.

Dont feel offended i was jooking arround. Did use some stereotype just for the fun.
Most common spider in germany is a Webberknecht or a Zitterspinne both are very easy and dont cobweb.
We say if you have one of these in youre house, you have a good climate at home so no mould or bad air....
They are Small either like...3-5 cm while the body itself is just like a pin.

AFAIK, these are harmless to humans . I find them rather cute, TBH .

Yeah like i said, your chances to get bitten by something rly dangerous in germany is rare...we have settled some wolfes back and 1-2 bears find theire way to us but they are highly watched and even killed if they start rioting into towns...the most common baddas animal here are warthogs.

Peter.Mengel wrote on 2022-07-25, 03:07:

darry wrote on 2022-07-25, 03:03:

Peter.Mengel wrote on 2022-07-25, 00:17:

Dont feel offended i was jooking arround. Did use some stereotype just for the fun. Most common spider in germany is a Webberkne […]
Show full quote

Dont feel offended i was jooking arround. Did use some stereotype just for the fun.
Most common spider in germany is a Webberknecht or a Zitterspinne both are very easy and dont cobweb.
We say if you have one of these in youre house, you have a good climate at home so no mould or bad air....
They are Small either like...3-5 cm while the body itself is just like a pin.

AFAIK, these are harmless to humans . I find them rather cute, TBH .

Yeah like i said, your chances to get bitten by something rly dangerous in germany is rare...we have settled some wolfes back and 1-2 bears find theire way to us but they are highly watched and even killed if they start rioting into towns...the most common baddas animal here are warthogs.

We have bears and wolves in some parts of Canada, but not anywhere near where I live .
Also, one does not want to piss off a Canadian goose as they are quite intense if provoked. They are not nicknamed hissing cobra chicken for nothing, though they are cute .

That said, if you manage to find a bear, wolf or goose in a PC, I would be inclined to pass on trying to salvage said PC. 😉

darry wrote on 2022-07-25, 03:21:

We have bears and wolves in some parts of Canada, but not anywhere near where I live . Also, one does not want to piss off a Ca […]
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Peter.Mengel wrote on 2022-07-25, 03:07:

darry wrote on 2022-07-25, 03:03:

AFAIK, these are harmless to humans . I find them rather cute, TBH .

Yeah like i said, your chances to get bitten by something rly dangerous in germany is rare...we have settled some wolfes back and 1-2 bears find theire way to us but they are highly watched and even killed if they start rioting into towns...the most common baddas animal here are warthogs.

We have bears and wolves in some parts of Canada, but not anywhere near where I live .
Also, one does not want to piss off a Canadian goose as they are quite intense if provoked. They are not nicknamed hissing cobra chicken for nothing, though they are cute . cobra_chicken.jpg

That said, if you manage to find a bear, wolf or goose in a PC, I would be inclined to pass on trying to salvage said PC. 😉

I see them and hear them evry year in germany too. didnt know they are somehow dangerous.
Leasoned Learn...if they are in a PC run!

darry wrote on 2022-07-25, 03:21:

We have bears and wolves in some parts of Canada, but not anywhere near where I live .
Also, one does not want to piss off a Canadian goose as they are quite intense if provoked. They are not nicknamed hissing cobra chicken for nothing, though they are cute . cobra_chicken.jpg

That said, if you manage to find a bear, wolf or goose in a PC, I would be inclined to pass on trying to salvage said PC. 😉

What? No beavers? 👀

On topic... For me most hated part is modding gotek drives with oled screens and rotary encoders. First I have to print new housing with adequate holes, then spray paint it to cca case color. Then solder few wires for rotary encoder... Boring work...

Cleaning and testing if something works is more a part of retro experience...

I'd not say that in EU there're not dangerous species of spiders or snakes. Even a very common 'vipera aspis' snake can be dangerous beside not comparable to many others but it's not the point.

debs3759 wrote:

You accidentally what a PC case?

Yes, whole case. Is this dangerous?

Hated: cleaning keyboards, removing CPU's from LIF sockets (i.e socket 1)

Feared: messing inside CRT's, powering up computers after a full assembly

TheMobRules wrote on 2022-07-25, 01:37:

badmojo wrote on 2022-07-25, 00:59:

The possibility of not being able to match the beiges of my PC case, floppy, and CD-ROM always strikes fear into my heart.

Heh, I have a baby AT minitower on which the 3 drives, bay cover, case front and metal chassis each have a slightly different beige color. It looks like ass, and despite many attempts to swap drives there's always a mismatch.

I've nicknamed it "50 shades of beige".

I have a similar problem, a beige case with an ugly black CD-ROM drive. I have obtained a drive of the correct color, but it won't work in DOS for some mysterious reason (see Re: [SOLVED] CD Audio cable question). So the black drive remains. It annoys me every time I look at it.