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Reply 20 of 23, by ZellSF

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lowenz wrote on 2022-07-16, 13:34:

You are talking about a (human) perception/enhancement problem, i'm talking about pixel matrix / 2D signal through various stages of processing. And dgVoodoo2 does the latter.

dgVoodoo doesn't present an image for human perception? Must've been using the thing wrong then, because I perceive the image dgVoodoo presents. I also have never talked about enhancement.

Again though, as I said, it's very arguable that integer scaling is the highest fidelity. You continuing to argue here doesn't really make a great case for why it isn't.

In some very specific scenarios, using a very specific definition of the words fidelity or with some assumptions about the source, or output, then it can be true. Using other definitions of the word fidelity or making other assumptions about the source and output then it can be false.

Reply 21 of 23, by Kaminari

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Integer scaling is highest fidelity in the sense that it is lossless. It's not about perception.

Now please can you both continue this pointless discussion in another topic? Thanks!

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Reply 22 of 23, by ZellSF

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Kaminari wrote on 2022-07-16, 16:05:

Integer scaling is highest fidelity in the sense that it is lossless. It's not about perception.

That is one definition of fidelity, yes, but not the most common one. So when someone says "integer scaling is the highest fidelity" without any qualifiers, that's highly misleading.

I just don't like this weird religion that seems to have been established over integer scaling, thinking it's the end all of scaling, when really it's just another way of scaling, with its own advantages and its own flaws. There's nothing inherently superior about it.

It also isn't the only "lossless" (I would also argue it isn't lossless just because it's reversible) scaling method, but what the hell does whether the scaling is lossless or not even matter?