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Reply 45900 of 47149, by debs3759

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darry wrote on 2022-08-09, 04:12:
I source my first CRT in over a decade . […]
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I source my first CRT in over a decade .

It is NTSC and it is definitely no PVM, but based on some brief tests the internal DVD player looks like it is hooked up through either component or S-VIDEO (or maybe even RGB, if I am extremely lucky) as I see no composite artifacts (no dot crawl, or moiré), so I will likely be able to tap into that internal connection.

Anybody know where I can get more info about this thing's guts before I crack it open ?

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Ooh! Pink! That would go nicely with my pink case (not modern, but not old enough to be retro) 😀

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Reply 45901 of 47149, by darry

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Radical Vision wrote on 2022-08-09, 15:27:
Lol wtf is this, is like the Hot Wheels PC... This mobo will fit very nice, with that monitor and remote lol... Only to add pin […]
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darry wrote on 2022-08-09, 04:12:
I source my first CRT in over a decade . […]
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I source my first CRT in over a decade .

It is NTSC and it is definitely no PVM, but based on some brief tests the internal DVD player looks like it is hooked up through either component or S-VIDEO (or maybe even RGB, if I am extremely lucky) as I see no composite artifacts (no dot crawl, or moiré), so I will likely be able to tap into that internal connection.

Anybody know where I can get more info about this thing's guts before I crack it open ?

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Lol wtf is this, is like the Hot Wheels PC...
This mobo will fit very nice, with that monitor and remote 🤣... Only to add pink GPU, RAM, Case and couple more stuff...
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That would be an interesting concept, though my planned use case is with NTSC/15KHz stuff (older pre-HD video game consoles and possibly/eventually home computers).

debs3759 wrote on 2022-08-10, 00:57:
darry wrote on 2022-08-09, 04:12:
I source my first CRT in over a decade . […]
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I source my first CRT in over a decade .

It is NTSC and it is definitely no PVM, but based on some brief tests the internal DVD player looks like it is hooked up through either component or S-VIDEO (or maybe even RGB, if I am extremely lucky) as I see no composite artifacts (no dot crawl, or moiré), so I will likely be able to tap into that internal connection.

Anybody know where I can get more info about this thing's guts before I crack it open ?

front.jpg
back.jpg
remote.jpg

Ooh! Pink! That would go nicely with my pink case (not modern, but not old enough to be retro) 😀

Not my favorite color, but it is sort of growing on me .

The remote control really cracks me up .

Oh, and there is a missing crown. https://www.bestbuy.com/site/disney-electroni … p?skuId=8327125 (this is a P1310ATVD , rather than aa P1300NTVD , but looks quite similar) .

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Reply 45902 of 47149, by stege

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Sort of gave up looking for one of these for my AST Pentium 75, but this fella arrived in the mail today, in fairly good nick.
Now just have to find the time to put everything together...

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Reply 45903 of 47149, by bjwil1991

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libby wrote on 2022-07-31, 18:55:

no breakout box sadly. not sure if there's a jerry rigged version or cable out there. it's got a DE-9 connector so I suspect there's a breakout cable of some sort around

Yeah. If I can find an IBM Music Feature Card with the breakout box, I might be able to make a schematic of it, create a PCB, and go from there.

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Reply 45904 of 47149, by Toriessian

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Got a DFI P5BV3+ Rev C off of ebay. Not 100% set on what I want to do with it. Has 64MB of RAM and a Cyrix MII 300+ on it right now.
Would be a nice little DOS gaming box with a S3 card and a Voodoo II in it.

A K62 or k63 400 would be really really nice too.

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Reply 45905 of 47149, by Cosmic

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Toriessian wrote on 2022-08-10, 17:20:

Got a DFI P5BV3+ Rev C off of ebay. Not 100% set on what I want to do with it. Has 64MB of RAM and a Cyrix MII 300+ on it right now.
Would be a nice little DOS gaming box with a S3 card and a Voodoo II in it.

A K62 or k63 400 would be really really nice too.

Nice board! I like that it has 4 PCI slots instead of 3. Both of my SS7 boards only have 3 slots so I can only choose 3 of the 4 cards I'd like to use: ATA133 card, USB 2.0, Fast ethernet, or an Audigy 2. Looks like you have some on-board cache too which is handy, with a K6-3 or K6-3+ you can use it as L3 cache and get a bit more performance.

Reply 45906 of 47149, by brostenen

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I recieved the Dell U2412MB monitor today, and I am happy to report that it is indeed 15khz compatible with PAL Amiga500, using a simple 23-Pin to 15-Pin adaptor. Though not perfect, as phase and clock need to be adjusted. Furthermore it has some nice aspect ratio settings. 4:3, 5:4 and 16:9...... This is a good find for just 40,32 Euro plus shipping.

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Don't eat stuff off a 15 year old never cleaned cpu cooler.
Those cakes make you sick....

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Reply 45907 of 47149, by liqmat

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brostenen wrote on 2022-08-10, 21:11:
I recieved the Dell U2412MB monitor today, and I am happy to report that it is indeed 15khz compatible with PAL Amiga500, using […]
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I recieved the Dell U2412MB monitor today, and I am happy to report that it is indeed 15khz compatible with PAL Amiga500, using a simple 23-Pin to 15-Pin adaptor. Though not perfect, as phase and clock need to be adjusted. Furthermore it has some nice aspect ratio settings. 4:3, 5:4 and 16:9...... This is a good find for just 40,32 Euro plus shipping.

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Image quality looks great. Congrats.

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Reply 45908 of 47149, by Repo Man11

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Today I stopped by a thrift store I've never been to before, and they had a tower for sale! It's an independent shop and whatever written or unwritten policy that causes St. Vincent DePaul and all of the other thrift stores around here to never sell such things isn't a policy they observe. So I got this for $15.00: Antec case, Asus K8V SE Deluxe (I hoped it was Socket 939, but it's 754) a Thermaltake 480 watt PSU with a 40 amp +5, a 3400+ CPU, a pair of WD PATA hard drives, a BFG 7300 GT 512 AGP card, and a mix of Corsair and generic DDR.

At first it refused to POST, and after much fooling around I removed some of the memory and then it booted up. After more fooling around, I realized that if it had one of the Corsair CMX1024 sticks it would work, but if I put the second one in it would only sit there with the fans spinning with no sound coming from the POST speaker. I tried some other memory and it had no issues. I'm not sure how that Corsair memory ended up in this thing because it seems unlikely that it was working fine then just stopped.

I've never before seen a motherboard with yellow PCI slots.

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Reply 45909 of 47149, by bjwil1991

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Let alone a brown PCB. Excellent find, my friend. I wish some thrift stores had something interesting. The last system I got was the 386 running on a 486DLC-33 back in 2020 for $10 and that system got upgraded to a better board.

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Reply 45910 of 47149, by TrashPanda

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Does anyone here like Wildcats ?

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Found this little Wildcat VP970 and decided to rescue it and add it to its brothers, tho this one will be thrown into the GF4 Rig to see how it compares, really love how the board has reliefs that show its layers really lovely looking card.

Oh noes, the cap let the shmooo out 😁

Reply 45911 of 47149, by Repo Man11

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TrashPanda wrote on 2022-08-11, 03:49:

Does anyone here like Wildcats ?

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Found this little Wildcat VP970 and decided to rescue it and add it to its brothers, tho this one will be thrown into the GF4 Rig to see how it compares, really love how the board has reliefs that show its layers really lovely looking card.

I've never heard of them before.

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Reply 45912 of 47149, by TrashPanda

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Repo Man11 wrote on 2022-08-11, 04:37:
TrashPanda wrote on 2022-08-11, 03:49:

Does anyone here like Wildcats ?

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Found this little Wildcat VP970 and decided to rescue it and add it to its brothers, tho this one will be thrown into the GF4 Rig to see how it compares, really love how the board has reliefs that show its layers really lovely looking card.

I've never heard of them before.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/3Dlabs

Ever heard of 3DLabs ?

Reviews put the VP970 performance between the Quardo 980 XGL and FireGL 8800 so it should be interesting to see if the final drivers for it improved that or not, at least itll be better than the Permedia 2.

Oh noes, the cap let the shmooo out 😁

Reply 45913 of 47149, by Kahenraz

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Professional level graphics cards never made a whole lot of sense once OpenGL went mainstream for games in the early 2000s era with feature complete ICDs. There are probably some special exceptions for unsupported extensions and Quadros bragged about using ECC memory, but I never saw any real benefit to these products since around their time.

Quadros since then are more valuable for their high quality components, multiple digital outputs, and support contracts than actual performance over consumer hardware. If there isn't a particular feature you want or need, then there isn't much reason to choose it otherwise.

There were some minor exceptions where NVIDIA tried to differentiate itself with special drivers for major packages like AutoCAD and 3D Studio MAX. It's possible that there were some optimizations to be had there, but the software specific optimizations fell away in favor of more generic "certified" drivers.

It was always really cool to see huge professional cards of the past. It's too bad that they never translated into any value on the gaming side.

Reply 45914 of 47149, by TrashPanda

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Kahenraz wrote on 2022-08-11, 05:45:
Professional level graphics cards never made a whole lot of sense once OpenGL went mainstream for games in the early 2000s era w […]
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Professional level graphics cards never made a whole lot of sense once OpenGL went mainstream for games in the early 2000s era with feature complete ICDs. There are probably some special exceptions for unsupported extensions and Quadros bragged about using ECC memory, but I never saw any real benefit to these products since around their time.

Quadros since then are more valuable for their high quality components, multiple digital outputs, and support contracts than actual performance over consumer hardware. If there isn't a particular feature you want or need, then there isn't much reason to choose it otherwise.

There were some minor exceptions where NVIDIA tried to differentiate itself with special drivers for major packages like AutoCAD and 3D Studio MAX. It's possible that there were some optimizations to be had there, but the software specific optimizations fell away in favor of more generic "certified" drivers.

It was always really cool to see huge professional cards of the past. It's too bad that they never translated into any value on the gaming side.

I use my 980 XGL as a replacement Ti 4800, works beautifully as a gaming GPU, I grabbed the Wildcat because its not ATI or nVidia and that makes it an interesting card to have on the shelf. It wasn't at all expensive either though at release I think it was in the 1100USD ballpark IIRC.

Quite an interesting little card, Im curious to see how it handles OpenGL games.

Oh noes, the cap let the shmooo out 😁

Reply 45915 of 47149, by spiroyster

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TrashPanda wrote on 2022-08-11, 05:50:

Quite an interesting little card, Im curious to see how it handles OpenGL games.

Wildcat VP, unlike Wildcat, also supports DX8 😉.

The VPU was a 'generic' shader processor and didn't distinguish between vertex/pixel shaders, so it's kinda like a Unified Shader Architecture a couple of years before ATi coined the term. It's one of those before it's time architectures that unfortunately didn't really live up to the hype. Oddly, the VP560 may have even employed a form of TBDR, different to the other VP series. Developers mentioned 'Tiled Rendering' at the time, but I don't think anyone outside the team that worked on VP really knows (UK based team designed and developed VP, rather than US who worked on the Intergraph wildcat lineage).

Reply 45916 of 47149, by brostenen

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liqmat wrote on 2022-08-10, 23:08:
brostenen wrote on 2022-08-10, 21:11:
I recieved the Dell U2412MB monitor today, and I am happy to report that it is indeed 15khz compatible with PAL Amiga500, using […]
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I recieved the Dell U2412MB monitor today, and I am happy to report that it is indeed 15khz compatible with PAL Amiga500, using a simple 23-Pin to 15-Pin adaptor. Though not perfect, as phase and clock need to be adjusted. Furthermore it has some nice aspect ratio settings. 4:3, 5:4 and 16:9...... This is a good find for just 40,32 Euro plus shipping.

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Image quality looks great. Congrats.

It still has these fine vertical stripes of fuzz to it. Personally I am a bit picky, but at least it is way better than the result I get on my Dell 2001-FP monitor. Yup. Both can display 15khz, but the 2001-FP is way worse. However. I am already using HDMI output on most of my Amiga's anyway. That is a mix of scandoublers and RGBtoHDMI solutions and then I feed the signal to the DVI port of my monitors. The 2001-FP works perfect for this. The biggest question that I have with my U2412-MB is how it will display my RetroTink line doubler, with HDMI-DVI cable. That is for my Commodore64 machines. It it is just as good as my Samsung TV, then I will use the U2412-MB instead.

Don't eat stuff off a 15 year old never cleaned cpu cooler.
Those cakes make you sick....

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Reply 45918 of 47149, by ODwilly

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Plz before doing anything recap it. The caps Soyo, abit and others used at the time can pop at any second. Edit: Those shiny silver crappy caps on your particular board give me PTSD. Since I thought they were fine when I pulled them off a dead 478 Soyo matx ATI based board to "fix" a 462 Abit board's primaries. They swelled and popped 3rd power on, despite checking in spec b4 using them on the Abit.

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Reply 45919 of 47149, by timsdf

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Repo Man11 wrote on 2022-08-11, 02:54:

Today I stopped by a thrift store I've never been to before, and they had a tower for sale! It's an independent shop and whatever written or unwritten policy that causes St. Vincent DePaul and all of the other thrift stores around here to never sell such things isn't a policy they observe. So I got this for $15.00: Antec case, Asus K8V SE Deluxe (I hoped it was Socket 939, but it's 754) a Thermaltake 480 watt PSU with a 40 amp +5, a 3400+ CPU, a pair of WD PATA hard drives, a BFG 7300 GT 512 AGP card, and a mix of Corsair and generic DDR.

At first it refused to POST, and after much fooling around I removed some of the memory and then it booted up. After more fooling around, I realized that if it had one of the Corsair CMX1024 sticks it would work, but if I put the second one in it would only sit there with the fans spinning with no sound coming from the POST speaker. I tried some other memory and it had no issues. I'm not sure how that Corsair memory ended up in this thing because it seems unlikely that it was working fine then just stopped.

I've never before seen a motherboard with yellow PCI slots.

Ripoff of DFI Lanparty colorscheme 😁 1GB is enough ram for 754 XP / 98 PC anyway so 1GB single channel ddr400 is plenty for the platform. 754 is undervalued platform for the os-support it has. I have one of these board in box too and was going to do 98/xp build with ATI 9800 pro but ended up on Asrock 775Dual-VSTA for now.